MB Civil Trial: JK/KK Contempt of Court?

[CurrentlyHorseless]

@Knights_Mom

@CurrentlyHorseless

@Knights_Mom

@CurrentlyHorseless

@LilRanger

@CurrentlyHorseless

. I was pointing out that beyond the surface arguments, both lawyers wove in some not particularly subtle jabs.

Sure, but you listed it backwards. Nagel was the one who’s started the slinging without offering anything to support his claims.

Denninger then walked through that door, saying, “yeah, look at how sick she is! She’s so feeble she can only lift one finger!”

Both are doing it, yeah? But only one is doing it well.

They’re both getting their points in.

I’m just not convinced that Deininger needed a door opened for him choose a nice crude photo of LK to make his point.

I’m not criticizing either lawyer. I assume their job is to get their points in, and you’ve only gone “too low” if judge gets offended.

To a few here LK can do no wrong. Ever. At all. Because even when they say “well maybe she shouldn’t have done this or that” it’s followed up by discrediting all things Barisone and legitimacy of their comparison never comes into play.

The ONLY thing missing from this recurring speech is “But his emails”.

Yawn. Boring gaslighting. So very boring. I have never said LK can do no wrong or that she bears zero responsibility in creating the situation that led to the shooting.

Re bolded: What emails of “his” are you talking about?

You seem confused. Here, let me help.

No, I understand what gaslighting and sarcasm are.

What did you mean by “the only thing missing from this recurring speech is ‘But his emails’.”

[trubandloki]

@TheJenners

Ooof can someone post a glossary of initials? I got lost in the helpful timeline entirely, after being puzzled before. I have MB, LK, RG, a few others but now there are EDs and KKs and others and I’m lost frankly.

Ed is actually the first name of the “ear witness” lawyer from the criminal case.
KK = Kirby Kanarek, the mother of Lauren Kanarek, wife of of Jonathan Kanarek (JK).

If you screen shot the helpful timeline I will gladly help you know exactly who is who if that is not enough information for you.

[trubandloki]

@CurrentlyHorseless

No, I understand what gaslighting and sarcasm are.

What did you mean by “the only thing missing from this recurring speech is ‘But his emails’.”

If you know what gaslighting is then why do you keep saying something that is not even close to gaslighting is gaslighting?

[Ambitious_Kate]

@trubandloki

gaslighting? Your definition is unique.

I do not think that word means what you think it means.

[CurrentlyHorseless]

@TheJenners

Ooof can someone post a glossary of initials? I got lost in the helpful timeline entirely, after being puzzled before. I have MB, LK, RG, a few others but now there are EDs and KKs and others and I’m lost frankly.

ED = Ed David, the ear witness who was on the phone with LK when she was shot. A lawyer.

KK= Kirby Kanarek, Lauren’s mother.

[jvanrens]

@CurrentlyHorseless

Deininger— On the surface, ‘Look, she’s partying in a hotel in NYC, so not terrified to live life’. But it’s not random that he chose to portray the partying with the middle finger pose. He used the main argument to take the opportunity to say she can be crude.

He used more than that particular picture. I don’t blame him for using that one at all, what a “silly” thing to do when you have another lawsuit in the offing? Obviously she wasn’t terribly worried about covid to be partying with her sisters in the lobby of a hotel that looks like a cheap cafeteria, so that argument is blown out the window.

[Ambitious_Kate]

@erinmeri

Can we add the following to commonly misused terms on this thread?
Gaslighting
Doxxing
Stalking
Harassing
Active Shooter

I welcome additions

If its a list of terms she doesn’t understand, I add:

Nested quotes.

[Knights_Mom]

@CurrentlyHorseless

What did you mean by “the only thing missing from this recurring speech is ‘But his emails’.”

It’s an identifying reference using popular culture and current events regarding someone utilizing whataboutism to deflect during debate in a repetitive manner and on an ongoing basis which is inconsistent with the actual subject matter.

[ekat]

@hut-ho78

She did? I didn’t ask for it? Don’t remember it?

I asked if the interrogatories were posted and she said yes.

Here’s a) the clip with an answer to an interrogatory advising that her social media posts are available online. In essence, she answered with, the posts are out there for you (general) all to see.

And yes, I answered your response with these interrogatories are part of the public filing.

Mr Deininger also included a portion in his objection he filed yesterday.

[ekat]

@CurrentlyHorseless

I saw her response to the interrogatory question specifically pertaining to posts to COTH.

In terms of social media platforms other than COTH , where did LK say ‘go find it yourself on line’?

Hope this helps.

[ohnoO]

The “finger picture” also included text that went with the other pictures that also contained text.

[FitzE]

How could any native English speaker read that and interpret it was specifically pertaining to posts on COTH?

The mind reels!

[Moderator_1]

Here are some directions created by the awesome @Simkie to visualize some of the options for quoting material more selectively on the site, which can help cut down on unnecessary scrolling for other users:

@Simkie

Discourse has a couple options to quote a post. The easiest way is to highlight the info you’d like to quote. A “quote” button will pop up:

Click the “quote” button and the info will be quoted in your reply window:

ETA: Some users have reported down thread that on some iPhones and iPads, clicking the Reply button after highlighting a portion of text (instead of the gray quote button) works better for them.

[Ambitious_Kate]

@ohnoO

The “finger picture” also included text that went with the other pictures that also contained text.

That was my point. Its where she describes what she was doing that night, and the partying and going about living her life. I suppose he had no choice but to use that picture. Its where she talked about her activities.

[erinmeri]

@ekat

Here’s a) the clip with an answer to an interrogatory advising that her social media posts are available online. In essence, she answered with, the posts are out there for you (general) all to see.

And yes, I answered your response with these interrogatories are part of the public filing.

Mr Deininger also included a portion in his objection he filed yesterday.

Thank you for posting receipts that not only was the response as stated, but that the posters were part of the conversation!

[CurrentlyHorseless]

@Knights_Mom

@CurrentlyHorseless

What did you mean by “the only thing missing from this recurring speech is ‘But his emails’.”

It’s an identifying reference using popular culture and current events regarding someone utilizing whataboutism to deflect during debate in a repetitive manner and on an ongoing basis which is inconsistent with the actual subject matter.

Did you mean “But her emails”, with her referring to Hillary Clinton? That I would have understood.

But thanks for clarifying it has absolutely nothing to do with case.

[trubandloki]

@CurrentlyHorseless

Did you mean “But her emails”, with her referring to Hillary Clinton? That I would have understood.

But thanks for clarifying it has absolutely nothing to do with case.

Mod 1 posted how to properly quote a few posts above. Might scroll up to read it.

[ohnoO]

That doesn’t work for me on an iPad. I have to highlight and then hit the “reply” arrow not the “quote” tab, but then it works the same.
Just an observation.

[Moderator_1]

Thank you for the help!

[Danvers]

“Common as muck” I like that and will be using it going forward… its that a quote you own or borrowed - I will totally be using it in the future.