MB Civil Trial: JK/KK Contempt of Court?

Thank you so much! This is an example of gaslighting! I did say she said it was online. Now you say I said something completely different. That is so awesome you provided this example after complaining about misusing terms.

Can we stop talking about how each other posts and get back to the subject?

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The confusion over what gaslighting means is starting to become funny, it’s so ridiculous at this point. :laughing:

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“Normalizing recordings”?

Will you just stop with the baiting and accusations? Please.

If you ever worked with certain materials in government or corporate America, then sweeping offices for bugs is routine.

But you’re an active shooter who made me flatline twice and on top of that you gaslit me. And then they cut me open stem to stern.

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Again, you’ve missed the point @erinmeri made. Lauren has hundreds of pins on Pinterest, including one sensationalizing being shot, dream fantasy weddings - so many pins. She finally shut it down recently.

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Oh….if only some of us didn’t have the whole set that we could provide…

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So, I read those, and I’m still confused as to how one detects a little pocket voice recorder like Lauren testified she purchased at least two of? Or that Rob testified about? I read about Wi-Fi surges and shutting off routers and and looking for dangling wires, and such, but I’m unclear how this would help in this scenario.

And ultimately it doesn’t matter. Recorders were hidden, recordings were made. That’s pretty undisputed at this point.

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Nope this is on no way an example of gaslighting. Good effort, though! I have not now, nor have I ever gaslit anyone, you need to seriously reconsider your vocabulary and your accusations.

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Im not stalking LK on social media, so I don’t know for a fact that there are hundreds of photos. I’ve seen a number of screen shots posted here, and assumed that there were hundreds over the last three years.

As someone who is “following” her and screenshotting everything, are you saying she has not been posting much over the last three years? You’re the expert, so I’d believe you.

I don’t remember saying I “knew” Seeker was mocking anyone because “you” thought she was “drunk posting.” In any case, no, I would have no way of “knowing” Seeker was mocking anyone. I might hazard a guess, but I wouldn’t “know” her intent.

The credibility I assign to IM, or anyone, is just my own assessment. I have no way of “knowing” whether what IM was posying was true, although some of his predictions were later borne out. Hence, yes, I found him credible.

It sounds like you’re accusing me of being a Kanarek insider, again. Yawn.

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Here is how to log into the documents. Once you get through the recaptcha stuff then use the drop down menu for civil and type the desired name into the provided blanks. Hit search.

If you lose it search for New Jersey courts acms. Then it’s kind of odd opening documents and it may say you opened too many for now, go away and come back later.

https://portal.njcourts.gov/webcivilcj/CIVILCaseJacketWeb/pages/publicAccessDisclaimer.faces

Well dang! I’ve been correct at least 80 - 90% of the time but I get push back constantly!

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So I think the important aspect of the tapes discussion is getting lost.

The thrust of defense in this trial will likely be that LK’s actions contributed to and indeed were the main cause of the chain of events, and even that her damage to MB was more deliberate and more severe, and more calculated, and hence she owes him damages.

Her SM and other statements from spring 2019 onward can be used to build a picture of someone deliberately setting out to destroy MB and get his farm in a lawsuit of some kind.

Within this framework one of the things she did was claim publicly and loudly from June 2019 to last month that she had illegally obtained recordings that contained irrefutable evidence of wrong doing on the part of MB and his friends , including but not limited to child neglect and murder plots against her. She also claimed to have used these recordings to file a false claim to SS.

Now one of several things could be true.

  1. LK had no recording devices in the barns and relied on eavesdropping and just making crap up. Her SS transcript is just invented.

  2. LK had recording devices up that recorded enough to give her plausibility in her own mind in using the material to libel, slander, and file false charges.

  3. LK has crystal clear recordings detailing MBs partipation in a horse murdering child abusing satanic coven, or similar. This I think we all know is baloney.

Therefore the question becomes, was LK taping at all, or were her repeated claims of taping just social media lies intended to harass her targets and make them paranoid? Or did she actually accomplish illegal tapings and then use the tidbits selectively to harass her targets?

You can see that both scenarios create a picture of someone whose actions were deliberate and also strongly causal.

Right now KTeam seem to want to have it both ways, to say they have top secret information but that they don’t have to divulge it or or doesn’t exist. You can’t do this in a court system. It’s in the courts interest to try to pinpoint exactly who is lying and by how much. That stops the schrodingers cat indeterminacy of, until we open the black box we don’t know if the recordings exist at all.

That other family members, ones with assets, have now been implicated in Games with Tapes, is a whole new wrinkle. I think if the family members are shown participating or enabling the harassment of MB, they could be in line to be named in the counter suit.

So the debate isn’t just oh, are the tapes illegal or legal? They were inadmissible to the criminal trial, likely because of their provenance but perhaps they were also irrelevant in content.

The bigger question is how Games with Tapes shows LK and perhaps JK and KK too as participating in a deliberate attempt to destroy MB. And I think that’s why JK and KK are panicking over depositions.

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And if you take too long reading a doc it boots you out…

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I think it’s still very disputed unless the sweep found recorders.

And in the middle of covid.

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I would have understood it if KM had said “But her emails”. The gender switch confused me. As I already explained.

I still like the context of a short chain of posts — here to indicate the quote from KM was “his emails” not “her emails”.

Also I haven’t gotten the highlighting to snip to work on my device.

Then why did you matter of factly state that there were “hundreds” of photos that MB’s attorney had access to and could have chosen?

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How is it disputed that 81 recordings have been disclosed to all parties and the Prosecutor’s office?

Lauren Kanarek sure isn’t disputing she hid recorders and video cameras (her FB post from April 20, 2019 that made it into the criminal trial) and made recordings. She’s told God and everybody she did it. She bragged about it. And her Mom bragged about hearing them and transcribing them. And her best buddy said she heard them too!

No one on Michael’s side is disputing they exist. No one from SGF is disputing they exist - they fought to get copies.

RC sure isn’t disputing them.

So, where’s the dispute? Are you serious right now?

And if the sweep was done at Michael’s expense, and was not capable of finding a low tech gadget, how does that change anything? It’s not like law enforcement did any kind of investigation and found any, that we know of.

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Fair enough

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Please see bolded.

You’re the expert. How many photos has she posted in the last three years? Less than a hundred?

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