MB Civil Trial: JK/KK Contempt of Court?

[Einhorn]

@Virginia_Horse_Mom

My comment was mainly to see if there was any reason a plaintiff/petitioner in a lawsuit might be able to demand that their deposition (or the deposition of one of their side’s supporting witnesses) be permitted to wait until AFTER the defendant/respondent is deposed.

I don’t think that’s a very strong argument, myself. Not that I’m anyone here, but why postpone joy? (Of having the deposition behind you)

[Knights_Mom]

@CurrentlyHorseless

@Virginia_Horse_Mom

@eggbutt

If such a statement was made, it simply shows more bias on Taylor’s part. If anyone is in danger, it is Michael Barisone and the Finish the Bastard gang. Plans for his personal protection once released are well underway.

According to Nancy Jaffer, what Judge Taylor ACTUALLY said was more like this…

The judge expressed concern that if Barisone crosses paths again with Kanarek, either in the horse world or in court (Kanarek is suing Barisone, and he is counter-suing) it could result in “a situation I don’t think he’s capable of dealing with.”

I still think Taylor is biased against Bilinkas and Barisone by extension… but… the way I read this, I actually think it seems like Judge Taylor might be noting the obvious, that if LK comes back into contact with MB, it might be confrontational and detrimental to MBs mental health. And maybe, out of an abundance of caution, it’s not a bad thing to ensure that MB has received extensive therapy and developed specific coping skills and a strategy to deal with such potential situations, so that they don’t escalate.

I think there is a way to read between the lines, and note that it seems like even Judge Taylor recognizes it’s highly likely LK will continue a campaign of harassment against MB. One way or another.

Yes, and what happened the last time Barisone was a free man, with access to a gun, was in contact with LK, and was not “capable of dealing with” the situation mentally?

Someone was shot and nearly killed.

If you’re using that logic then LK shouldn’t be boarding anywhere because look what happened last time she boarded in a training facility.

Someone was shot and nearly killed.

[ekat]

@Einhorn

I don’t think that’s a very strong argument, myself. Not that I’m anyone here, but why postpone joy? (Of having the deposition behind you)

Plus, she brought the lawsuit. She gets to go first so the defendants know what to defend.

Plus, even if they knew the hearing was yesterday, they knew this was a possible outcome. They had plenty of time to plead that, but they went with, I’ll do your deposition (agreement) but from the comfort of my couch in FL.

[eggbutt]

I find it interesting Michael Barisone grew a thriving business, emassed a fortune, achieved so many accomplishments, all while dealing with his issues with help from his doctor until the Kanareks Finish the Bastard plan destroyed him. Don’t think for a minute there wasn’t a full blown plan that worked until it didn’t. I’m sure the Kanareks are super proud of that too!

Karma is an amazing equalizer and that clock is ticking.

[Virginia_Horse_Mom]

@CurrentlyHorseless

Yes, and what happened the last time Barisone was a free man, with access to a gun, was in contact with LK, and was not “capable of dealing with” the situation mentally?

Someone was shot and nearly killed.

There are security measures in courthouses. Mutual restraining orders will almost certainly apply when Barisone’s commitment ends. And SafeSport has a few different restriction options that can apply to prevent MB and LK from interacting while they are participating in recognized competition.

If expert psychiatric professionals like Dr. Simring and Dr. Bajgier continue to assert on the record, that in their professional opinions MB does not pose a danger to himself or others, then he almost certainly will be released in a matter of months. And return to his longtime home in Florida, where he has longstanding ties to the local community, and a substantial network of friends and support.

It must be very challenging for LK to accept that this is imminent. Maybe she should consider putting her home on the market, and moving herself and her horses if she is so concerned for her safety.

[trubandloki]

Speaking of Michael and all this.

I wonder how that amazing Hay Guy is doing. He was so wonderful.

[eggbutt]

@Virginia_Horse_Mom

Maybe she should consider putting her home on the market, and moving herself and her horses if she is so concerned for her safety

yeah, let the offers to help her move proceed. That woman is chomping at the bit for Barisone to be released. She is dangerously obsessed and stuck in time.

[Maria]

and this actually worries me. I can see her starting another campaign against him. I would imagine his security bill will escalate.

Edited to fix what I thought looked like crappy writing

[DownYonder]

@eggbutt

@Virginia_Horse_Mom

Maybe she should consider putting her home on the market, and moving herself and her horses if she is so concerned for her safety

yeah, let the offers to help her move proceed. That woman is chomping at the bit for Barisone to be released. She is dangerously obsessed and stuck in time.

And I find the drunken-rage postings of someone very close to her pretty troubling, too. Instead of continually feeding her fantasy of being The Center of the Universe, you would think those closest to her would be actively trying to talk some sense into her. Then again, maybe they are but she refuses to listen. “Na-na-na, I can’t hear you” is not only infantile, but could be partly to blame for why her Klan members tend to go a little bit bonkers themselves.

[ekat]

@trubandloki

I wonder how that amazing Hay Guy is doing. He was so wonderful.

Hay Guy was the best!

[Knights_Mom]

@eggbutt

I find it interesting Michael Barisone grew a thriving business, emassed a fortune, achieved so many accomplishments, all while dealing with his issues with help from his doctor until the Kanareks Finish the Bastard plan destroyed him. Don’t think for a minute there wasn’t a full blown plan that worked until it didn’t. I’m sure the Kanareks are super proud of that too!

Karma is an amazing equalizer and that clock is ticking.

I’d like to think he is not destroyed but more like in the process of climbing back, a Phoenix rising to reclaim his life and strive for better times.

He is not defeated. He was… delayed in finding and reaching his ultimate stage of happiness and peace.

[Knights_Mom]

@Maria

and this actually worries me. I can see her starting another campaign against him. I would imagine his security bill will escalate.

Edited to fix what I thought looked like crappy writing

No worries. I’m sure preparations have been made. Circumstances won’t be the same now. The jig is up. Everyone knows who the toxin is now.

[Sdel]

@Knights_Mom

@Maria

and this actually worries me. I can see her starting another campaign against him. I would imagine his security bill will escalate.

Edited to fix what I thought looked like crappy writing

No worries. I’m sure preparations have been made. Circumstances won’t be the same now. The jig is up. Everyone knows who the toxin is now.

There is a level of harassment that one can only achieve by living in the home of another. That will never be the case again.

[eggbutt]

I think those close to her enjoy the pot stirring as much or more than she does. Someone had to teach her to never be accountable after all. Who does that?

[Ambitious_Kate]

@Warmblood1

At one point I saw some posts by other posters disappear literally within a minute or two of posting so I think the mods were also actively on the thread while a lot of it was happening. It didn’t seem like anyone had time to flag those posts. I can’t say for certain about IM’s initial posts but they were so hysterical and inflammatory that I don’t think anyone would have had to flag them for them to be removed.

Catching up, just as a point, I was “There” when IM showed up aflagged each post.

Edited to say “aflagged”! Hah hah! I was all aflag!

[trubandloki]

@eggbutt

I think those close to her enjoy the pot stirring as much or more than she does. Someone had to teach her to never be accountable after all. Who does that?

Clearly that is the case of her FB friend Shelly Belly Whatever It is.
She seems to totally think it is wonderful that LK acts the way she does.

I agree that maybe the people in LK’s life need to do something about the way she is.

[Knights_Mom]

@trubandloki

I agree that maybe the people in LK’s life need to do something about the way she is.

Not ever going to happen. Or shall I say short lived, unsuccessful, half hearted gestures at best just to ease them from the guilt of not having done more.

[trubandloki]

@Knights_Mom

@trubandloki

I agree that maybe the people in LK’s life need to do something about the way she is.

Not ever going to happen. Or shall I say short lived, unsuccessful, half hearted gestures at best just to ease them from the guilt of not having done more.

I just think if people are going to say that those near Michael should be stressing to him how he needs to do this or that then clearly the people near Lauren Kanarek have a ton of work they should be doing. Why was no one telling her to get her behind off the couch and to just go to her deposition?
I mean - Finish the Bastard - and all.

But I agree, they all seem to think lying is how to do life so you get your own way.

So weird…it is just so weird.

But clearly some people think it is AOK, so what do I know…

[Angela_Freda]

@trubandloki

I just think if people are going to say that those near Michael should be stressing to him how he needs to do this or that then clearly the people near Lauren Kanarek have a ton of work they should be doing. Why was no one telling her to get her behind off the couch and to just…

move out.

[3PonyFarm]

I am happy for MB that he was finally able to have the hearing. The stress of waiting and not knowing his immediate future had to be very difficult to deal with. May he do well at the new facility.