MB Civil Trial: JK/KK Contempt of Court?

[Kitty64]

Also, it’s a weird angle for a left handed person to shoot someone in the left shoulder. Seems more “natural” if you’re facing someone to shoot them in the right shoulder if you’re left handed. Especially someone who’s a foot taller…almost like he’d have to really pretzel himself to create that angle.

[ekat]

@ohnoO

Didn’t the surgeon find only one bullet in LK and then speculated that the missing one could have been because the EMT’s or the ER staff somehow dislodged it?

Just to be sure, I just went thru the Dr’s testimony. It’s only 16 minutes. He stated that no bullets were found by X-ray or exam.

[eggbutt]

Or struggling to get the gun away from a right handed person using your left hand and the gun discharging into the person standing immediately to the left of the right handed person with the gun. All musings on my part of course.

And remember the right handed person had a slight injury in the fleshy part of their hand between the thumb and index finger. I’ve seen that type of injury when the slide pinches the hand when firing those small pistols.

[trubandloki]

@Mondo

Forensic Files is one of my favorites.

Yes, I agree!
Though I like the older Forensic Files more than the newer version.

[ohnoO]

Thank you. I can’t ever find what I want on the YouTube videos. They don’t seem to be in any kind of order to me.

[trubandloki]

@ohnoO

Thank you. I can’t ever find what I want on the YouTube videos. They don’t seem to be in any kind of order to me.

I can not find anything in them either. I am very thankful to the smart people who post here that can find things.

[Knights_Mom]

Look, the majority of people here know that LKs version of everything is so bizarre and beyond making sense that it’s just impossible to believe outright.

Add her addiction to lying profusely about even the most mundane things brings most people to question her version. We see this over and over.

Sadly, the few run ins I’ve had with the media has shown they have just an awful habit of inaccuracy so you just might watch the show shaking your head fully knowing their report is wrong.

That is sure to happen. It’s just a matter of how much.

[Knights_Mom]

@ohnoO

@Angela_Freda

@Kitty64

Does anyone have an understanding why LK/JK aren’t suing the police department? It seems like they were derelict in their duty in not enforcing some measure of relief at the farm. How many times were they called out in a short period of time? 5?6? We’ve been told over and over “if you see something, say something “ and “don’t take the law into your own hands”. So, MB as a law abiding citizen, did what he was supposed to do and notified authorities. **And they did nothing **
(I know police have qualified immunity but I just wanted to add a periodic reminder of their role in this terrible situation.)

If the Kanarek family thinks MB did this, plotted it even, they should be furious that the PDs involved did gather gun shot residue, all the purported bullets/casings, the various recording devices, etc to aid in conviction.
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No kidding!
How about if they could explain how there were two shots (casings found) but a third one went through the door who’s trajectory looked like it could have come from a gun shot while lying on one’s back on the ground?

Didn’t the surgeon find only one bullet in LK and then speculated that the missing one could have been because the EMT’s or the ER staff somehow dislodged it?

There were no bullets found I believe. The 2 went right through her.

[ekat]

@ohnoO

Thank you. I can’t ever find what I want on the YouTube videos. They don’t seem to be in any kind of order to me.

They aren’t, really. I just remember he was Day 4, which also had part 2 of LK’s Cross and part 1 of RG’s direct/cross.

[DownYonder]

@Knights_Mom

Sadly, the few run ins I’ve had with the media has shown they have just an awful habit of inaccuracy so you just might watch the show shaking your head fully knowing their report is wrong.

This is so true. They will get things wrong due to not truly understanding the situation, or because of sloppiness/laziness, or because they want to sensationalize the piece as much as possible to get kudos from their editor, publisher, producer, etc. And often times, it isn’t just the reporter doing it, but also the editor or producer - and again, to sensationalize the story so it will attract more viewers.

To paraphrase the folksy Sen. John Kennedy of Louisiana - “You can trust them about as much as you can trust Harvey Weinstein with your daughter.”

[BigMama1]

@eggbutt

well, at least SW isn’t quite as dangerous and obsessed as LK! And being “friends” is considerably different than lovey-dovey BFFs

Honestly, I wouldn’t be so sure of that. I know several of the people she has targeted who would absolutely describe her as dangerous and obsessed.

What about when she decided to try and have her male friend’s wife deported because SW believed she only married him to get a green card? The online abuse she subjected that woman and her family to sure looked like cyberstalking and harassment.

And how many businesses / careers has she attempted to destroy? It’s not a pretty picture.

[trubandloki]

You make a very good point @Knights_Mom. The media is very prone to not having facts straight.

[LexInVA]

@ohnoO

Thank you. I can’t ever find what I want on the YouTube videos. They don’t seem to be in any kind of order to me.

All here, in chronological order.

[eggbutt]

@BigMama1

@eggbutt

well, at least SW isn’t quite as dangerous and obsessed as LK! And being “friends” is considerably different than lovey-dovey BFFs

Honestly, I wouldn’t be so sure of that. I know several of the people she has targeted who would absolutely describe her as dangerous and obsessed.

What about when she decided to try and have her male friend’s wife deported because SW believed she only married him to get a green card? The online abuse she subjected that woman and her family to sure looked like cyberstalking and harassment.

And how many businesses / careers has she attempted to destroy? It’s not a pretty picture.

Honestly, I truly can’t respond to your post because I sincerely don’t follow SW’s posts anywhere. I’m not doubting, I just can’t respond because I don’t know the specifics of what you’ve said. No defense or offense from me. Sorry.

[CurrentlyHorseless]

@BigMama1

@CurrentlyHorseless

Yes. I have stated that Bruce Nagel’s statement that MB was found guilty of attempted murder, but also found not criminally responsible for the act is just another way of saying what I have been saying about the NGRI verdict.

After all this time, you are still not capabale of wrapping your brain around the difference between NGRI and guilty, but not criminally responsible?

You can try to interpret it however you like, but as he wrote it, Nagel’s statement that MB was found guilty of attempted murder but not criminally responsible is categorically false.

I understood what he meant, and I think the judge will, too. NGRI means he was found to have committed the physical
act, and would have been found Guilty, but for the insanity finding.

[eggbutt]

@CurrentlyHorseless

I understood what he meant, and I think the judge will, too. NGRI means he was found to have committed the physical
act, and would have been found Guilty, but for the insanity finding.

You truly are unable to move on from this fixation, aren’t you?

[BigMama1]

@omare

My understanding is that the jury could not have found him NGRI if the jury had not found him to have committed the criminal act.

I can’t believe we are still rehashing this but…The jury may or may not have believed he shot her (look up jury nullification for more details). But their verdict says even even if they did believe he shot her, it wasn’t a criminal act, due to his mental state.

Yes there was a shooting. If MB was the shooter (and there is a distinct lack of evidence to prove this conclusively), the shooting was not a crime.

Can we put this record back on the shelf now before it gets worn out?

[Bogey2]

SW is a bully too, you are so right!

[CurrentlyHorseless]

@BigMama1

@Angela_Freda

Am I incorrectly remembering that you are a former client of Michaels?

I believe seahorse is the former client who spoke out against Michael here on COTH

I believe that several years prior to the shooting, she responded to a query here about top dressage trainers in NJ by warning against training with MB, based on her experience.

[ohnoO]

Thank you—that’s magic!