MB Civil Trial: JK/KK Contempt of Court?

[MHM]

@BigMama1

@eggbutt

The mods can’t say here who a post is IRL, but they certainly respond to subpoenas!!

It is rather amusing that after LK threatening posters here that their identities were going to be revealed via subpoenas to COTH, the ones unveiled are simply her and her bizarro parents

You’re absolutely right. Lol.

[ekat]

@Virginia_Horse_Mom

So given MBs counterclaim… there is no possibility for LK retreating from this situation of her own making, unless a settlement is negotiated?

It’s not easy to walk away once you start a suit, and it shouldn’t be. (It’s on my list of things to consider before you file).

Here’s NJ’s rule:

37-1. Voluntary Dismissal; Effect Thereof

 (a) By Plaintiff; By Stipulation. Subject to the provisions of R. 4:32-2(e) (class actions), R. 4:53-1 (receivership actions) and R. 4:60-18 (attachment actions), an action may be dismissed by the plaintiff without court order by filing a notice of dismissal at any time before service by the adverse party of an answer or of a motion for summary judgment, whichever first occurs; or by filing a stipulation of dismissal specifying the claim or claims being dismissed, signed by all parties who have appeared in the action. Unless otherwise stated in the notice or stipulation, the dismissal is without prejudice.

 (b) By Order of Court. Except as provided by paragraph (a) hereof, an action shall be dismissed at the plaintiff’s instance only by leave of court and upon such terms and conditions as the court deems appropriate. If a counterclaim has been filed and served by a defendant prior to being served with plaintiff’s motion to dismiss, the action shall not be
dismissed against the defendant’s objection unless the counterclaim can remain pending for independent adjudication by the court. Unless otherwise specified in the order, a dismissal under this paragraph is without prejudice

[BigMama1]

@eggbutt

Oh goodness, I really want @CurrentlyHorseles’s reaction to this filing! IM =JK. You have been naive and I feel bad that you’ve been betrayed. This filing buttons up many mysteries!!!

You don’t think CH already knew IM’s real identity and that’s why she believed in his posts? She seems to believe everything the Kanareks say.

Not speculating on anyone’s identity here, but hypothetically, if a previously banned poster were to open a new account under a different email, doing so and accessing it only away from home - say at work or the library - the mods would not be able to identify it as coming from a banned user, yes?

[Angela_Freda]

@LexInVA

The insurance won’t pay out unless there’s a ruling against MB and SGF. If they did pay out, then the insurance could also come after both parties. As I said, it’s in MB and SGF’s interest to see this thing play out in court, to the point where things are relatively wrapped up and conclusive, against the Kanarek family. The collective evidence that can be put forth against LK in the civil case - namely Lauren’s personal history and the continued financial and personal support of her father, especially if that support extended to doing things that would be considered illegal, if not wholly immoral - is enough to sink claims against MB and SGF and leave LK high and dry. That’s why they were so dependent on MB pleading guilty and then having the civil case go in their favor. Because MB didn’t go along with their tune and the verdict was not what they wanted, they are stuck with the messed up bed that they made for their daughter and their actions regarding the civil case are nothing more than evasive tactics that buy them time to soften or attempt to dodge the blow that will inevitably come down on their messed up family. For all we know, they could intend to leave the country before anything really bad goes down and leave Lauren here with her little home in FL and continuous bank transfers to fund her wondrous existence

And again, I wonder if any jurors from the trial are following these revelations…

[Angela_Freda]

@BigMama1

Not speculating on anyone’s identity here, but hypothetically, if a previously banned poster were to open a new account under a different email, doing so and accessing it only away from home - say at work or the library - the mods would not be able to identify it as coming from a banned user, yes?

Definitely wonder about this, the potential work around of, say, having a house and an apartment at the barn where you keep your horses that each have their own ip address…

[smoofox]

@EADoug

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I bought this book purely for the illustrations, and it happens to be a nice story too.

Thank you so much - and you as well, @MorganSercu !

@BigMama1

@eggbutt

The mods can’t say here who a post is IRL, but they certainly respond to subpoenas!!

It is rather amusing that after LK threatening posters here that their identities were going to be revealed via subpoenas to COTH, the ones unveiled are simply her and her bizarro parents

Well, it would be a big disappointment if I were “unveiled”. Lowly barn scrubber (despite DPR’s praise) and not of the equestrian elite in Wellington or anywhere else…

[MHM]

I will be very, very interested to see if 48 Hours spoke to any of the jurors from the criminal trial. Fingers crossed.

Question for you legal types. What has to happen in order for MB to recover all of his legal costs from the Ks?

[Joanne]

Anyone can get around an IP address simply by getting a VPN.

"VPN (virtual private network) is a technology that encrypts your internet traffic on unsecured networks to protect your online identity, hide your IP address, and shield your online data from third parties. "

[BigMama1]

@Sdel

Yep. I’ve said it before…the whole family is here. And he even tried to pretend he was a random nobody at first too.

The only one left to be unmasked is the sister

[iridedressage]

Well, theoretically. But, also hypothetically, let’s say the videos were on his phone, which was seized by the police. Morris County did not disclose any videos during the criminal trial. So, were the videos erased from RG’s end prior to seizure?

Perhaps RG could access them from his email/some cloud somewhere. What if they’ve already gone down this road?
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Which leads me to say - it sure is a coincidence that they were emailed the day before the shooting…

[MorganSercu]

Maybe people a little further out on the branches of the combined family tree too?

Not that it matters. Not that I care. Still fun to wonder about it in passing.

[Virginia_Horse_Mom]

@BigMama1

You don’t think CH already knew IM’s real identity and that’s why she believed in his posts? She seems to believe everything the Kanareks say.

Not speculating on anyone’s identity here, but hypothetically, if a previously banned poster were to open a new account under a different email, doing so and accessing it only away from home - say at work or the library - the mods would not be able to identify it as coming from a banned user, yes?

[Virginia_Horse_Mom]

@BigMama1

The only one left to be unmasked is the sister

Superfecta.

[DownYonder]

@BigMama1

The only one left to be unmasked is the sister

The sister has been posting here, too? That revelation rather ratchets up my suspicions about a few other “random nobodies.”

[ekat]

@iridedressage

Which leads me to say - it sure is a coincidence that they were emailed the day before the shooting…

It’s one heck of a coincidence, for sure, and it makes perfect sense why the defendant(s) think they are relevant to the suit.

[Sdel]

@BigMama1

Not speculating on anyone’s identity here, but hypothetically, if a previously banned poster were to open a new account under a different email, doing so and accessing it only away from home - say at work or the library - the mods would not be able to identify it as coming from a banned user, yes?

Interestingly enough……JumpinQueen made a brief appearance, made a lot of insider type claims….and at some point was quietly banned…long after they had stopped posting….

[jvanrens]

@trubandloki

We still have the joy of Deininger’s response on this situation.

He’s going to have to work to top Silver’s! I’m sure he and EB will come up with something.

[LexInVA]

@BigMama1

@Sdel

Yep. I’ve said it before…the whole family is here. And he even tried to pretend he was a random nobody at first too.

The only one left to be unmasked is the sister

There are two sisters. Emily and Hilary.

[iridedressage]

I bet there’s a big Zoom meeting going on now. IN RE: How the heck do we spin this now?!

[Virginia_Horse_Mom]

Which one did the middle finger selfie with LK? I’m betting on that one for the superfecta.