I’m going to vote ripped out by someone looking to create situations to make MB look like a bad guy, give more “ammo” for a lawsuit, or otherwise increase the fines he’d have to pay when the building inspector got there. Considering, ya know, the plan to defame and destroy him….
I’m generally not worried about anything that is said MB/MHG said or did……I’m confident that there is a pretty normal explanation for everything the K side tries to twist into horriblenesses….
I don’t suppose some of the items ripped out were copper pipes and wires? Standard move for some people.
You seem to forget that MB didn’t call out the inspectors, LK did. A long letter that she had delivered.
The subject of whether the recordings were legal or not has been hashed and rehashed to death. Legal filings and logic indicate that they were almost certainly illegal, based on what we know in filings and court testimony. Whether or not LK or RG face consequences for making them remains to be seen.
Logic dictates that recordings - and not a loose-lipped barn gossip or mole - were the source of the information LK gleaned. She has said as much herself in various online postings, and even tried to say she made them in a public place so as to justify having done so. There is no indication anyone went blabbing to her.
Can we please move on from that line of discussion?
Which might make it hard for him to time this pulling out of … whatever… to get them kicked out.
In most things, the simplest answer is the truth.
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On a different note, wrt what we might learn at the civil hearings:
Do we know anything more about the incident before the shooting when LK stopped MB from leaving in his truck… Slamming his door shut so he couldn’t get in his vehicle? I believe that happened at the house?
When was that? The day before? That week?
What are the chances that was caught on the camera installed at the house?
As for the question of GC licensing and pulling of permits, it’s my understanding that in NJ, many jurisdictions do not allow an unlicensed homeowner to act as GC and/or pull permits on multi family residences - only on single family primary residences, and only for certain kinds of work. I have no idea if that is true in Long Valley/Washington Township/Morris County, but it sounds like the farmhouse consisted of more than one apartment.
Good question. Is there relevance for the civil trial?
I suppose it could go towards liability with regards to the evictions from housing, as well as the compensation paid or owed (or not) for work done in exchange for board/training/rent. But I don’t know, and I can’t at this point recall how it came up again… too many old, tired horses being beaten!
Another good point.
I think at this point it has no relevance to the discussion of Jonathan and Kirby Kanarek’s contempt issues and Lauren Kanarek refusing to show up for a deposition in the case that she filed.
I just wish something would show up on the court’s website so we know what is going on.
Those are good questions.
#1 - generally yes, they need to print that stuff out. Or load it to some kind of storage media they could turn over.
#2 - that would depend on the language of the subpoena I imagine. The subpoena we have seen for Jonathan Kanarek only asks for written communications (and any videos) as does the one for Kirby Kanarek, which is also requesting those transcripts she bragged about. So, phone records haven’t come into play yet.
#3 - the court, nor the attorneys don’t really know. But if the attorneys have proof a party or witness is withholding something, they will certainly ask the court to compel further discovery.
Some of this is your building blocks for destroying a witness’s credibility in court, too. As an example (I know, but…it’s a good example) there were days/weeks etc in the pretrial hearings in the Depp/Heard case revolving the metadata of her picture(s). She was court ordered to produce, she didn’t. She was then ordered to produce the phone in its entirety, which she said she no longer had. And then when she presented two versions of the same photo in the trial, Depp’s attorneys destroyed her credibility on that issue.
Yes, and sometimes exchanged for drugs, or sold to get cash for drugs.
The big fallacy in CH’s argument is this:
According to LK…
LOL, I thought the same thing. I think someone needs to make a glossary. Maybe I will work on that later today after I get back from the gym.
Just a thing, et al (and others) is 2 words.
When responding to a Subpoena Duces Tecum you provide whatever docs requested.
For a deposition you forward to your attorney all the things in your possession asked for. As a plaintiff I had to do this last month as the plaintiff in my dad’s case. I was asked for emails, cards (birthday, holiday), texts, pictures, videos, letters, correspondence with physicians and other family members.
Dad didn’t do email or texts. Cards I had already tossed. There were no letters. We communicated by phone. I provided the will, power of attorney, medical stuff I found cleaning out apartment after death, family videos and pictures.
Why? Because in this nursing home wrongful death claim I made the nursing homes defense asked and wanted me to prove I actually had a relationship with my dad. I get why but was highly offended being I was AT the nursing home out of state taking emergency leave from my job while dad was hospitalized and then put into the nursing home.
That’s how these cases roll.
Good point, but I think I remember some discussion that the house had never been zoned or permitted for multiple residences. I can’t remember if that came up during the trial, or if it was some discussion beforehand, or if that had been proven/disproven.
Now that is a legal question I wouldn’t even want to wade into… LOL. But if I had the fortune/misfortune to acquire such a property, I would be treating it like a multi family unless I was converting it back to single family. And I would be getting permits, regardless. But I am a rule follower.
Yes, MHG testified at the trial that the farmhouse had been converted into three separate living quarters.
Thanks, I had forgotten she mentioned that during the trial. There is still a question as to whether that had been officially permitted, although that particular aspect probably doesn’t have any real bearing on the litigation currently being considered.
If the units weren’t being rented outright but were more for guest accommodation in the homeowners home they may or may not require permits depending on the jurisdiction.
Like say when someone finishes their basement in their home and puts in a guest bedroom, bathroom and living/TV area or exercise room or pool table.
SoNJ: State of New Jersey
NJ: Nancy Jaffer
Lol.
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