MB Civil Trial: JK/KK Contempt of Court?

[Sdel]

@CanteringCarrot

How on earth was the post that you quoted an accusation of you being an alter and/or involved with the Kanarek’s in any way?

Reminds me of the barn cat with the condo in Wellington. Just looking for an excuse to make something into something it’s not….

[CurrentlyHorseless]

@Sdel

@eggbutt

Come on y’all…spell it out for the really elderly!

Considering the antics, if the judge refused oral arguments, he could have already issued the ruling. All of the motions on that are complete (someone let me know if I’m mistaken) and well, the song and dance prediction guidelines would be that LK lost, or is expected to lose. Otherwise I think the talk would all be about the upcoming oral arguments and how Lk was going to win….

Guide me through this @Sdel. If the judge had ruled, wouldn’t the judge’s ruling be posted?

[yaya]

I only see pending. Where does it say not granted? Is it somewhere only NJ lawyers have access?

[erinmeri]

And since I couldn’t help myself… I clicked through. We now have a poster AGAIN claiming that the recordings testified to, already handed over in discovery, bragged about by Lala herself don’t exist and requests for them are harassment. I just can’t… UNBELIEVABLE. Off to ride some horses and figuratively scrub my brain of this nonsense.

[skydy]

Nagel/Rice requested oral arguments in their Motion to Quash JK and KK’s subpoenas if the Judge didn’t agree to quash.

[CurrentlyHorseless]

@CanteringCarrot

@CurrentlyHorseless

@Sdel

Why are you so mad at me? I’m just pointing out the obvious. It’s LK/RG/Jim/whomever you should be angry with for damaging the credibility of the extensive list of random nobody supporters of LK.

You’ve flat out accused me of being an alter for LKs sister, and insinuated with your little “[fragment of a sentence] …” that I’m posting under IMs screen name, and I think they last one was I was supposed to be RG? Seriously? RG? Each accusation you make is more ridiculous and pathetic than the last.

I am not in any way related to any of the Kanareks by blood or marriage or contract. I’ve never met LK or anyone in her family.

Your continued accusations and insinuations that I am a Kanarek insider of some sort is a malicious and dishonest tactic to discredit my point of view.

I think there are alters posting on these threads, but it ain’t me.

How on earth was the post that you quoted an accusation of you being an alter and/or involved with the Kanarek’s in any way?

Not that particular post, no. But numerous posts in the past. In general I try to ignore the accusations.

[trubandloki]

Well that explains all the action here, filings happened. No wonder!
Must derail so we do not discuss the latest in the Trifecta legal mess.

Thank you to those who explained what is happening on the legal website!

[Sdel]

@CurrentlyHorseless

@Sdel

@eggbutt

Come on y’all…spell it out for the really elderly!

Considering the antics, if the judge refused oral arguments, he could have already issued the ruling. All of the motions on that are complete (someone let me know if I’m mistaken) and well, the song and dance prediction guidelines would be that LK lost, or is expected to lose. Otherwise I think the talk would all be about the upcoming oral arguments and how Lk was going to win….

Guide me through this @Sdel. If the judge had ruled, wouldn’t the judge’s ruling be posted?

Not always right away. It can take a while to show up where the random public can see it. The judge has to print off the order, sign it, and then someone has to reupload it. I’m sure that isn’t always something someone drops everything to do. It might take a couple of days to get around to it if there is only a set time of day/week to do that kind of housekeeping.

[trubandloki]

@Sdel

housekeeping

Like vacuuming?

[3PonyFarm]

I have a question for our brilliant legal minds. Since the Krol hearing I have been wondering about this.

The prosecution’s position was that MB knew what he was doing and even the comments by the judge and CS about how his change in appearance since the trial was different and his appearance at the trial was for the jurys benefit.

How could he then say at the Krol hearing that they agreed with the stay at Greystone, a psychiatric hospital, when they claim he is not insane. How is that not punitive?

[Sdel]

@skydy

Nagel/Rice requested oral arguments in their Motion to Quash JK and KK’s subpoenas if the Judge didn’t agree to quash.

Someone can correct me, but I’m not sure oral arguments have to be granted, even if requested, in those kinds of motions. I wouldn’t read too much into it. Behavior is a probably a better indication in this case.

[trubandloki]

@3PonyFarm

I have a question for our brilliant legal minds. Since the Krol hearing I have been wondering about this.

The prosecution’s position was that MB knew what he was doing and even the comments by the judge and CS about how his change in appearance since the trial was different and his appearance at the trial was for the jurys benefit.

How could he then say at the Krol hearing that they agreed with the stay at Greystone, a psychiatric hospital, when they claim he is not insane. How is that not punitive?

This is an excellent question!!!

[CurrentlyHorseless]

@Sdel

@CanteringCarrot

How on earth was the post that you quoted an accusation of you being an alter and/or involved with the Kanarek’s in any way?

Reminds me of the barn cat with the condo in Wellington. Just looking for an excuse to make something into something it’s not….

Too funny.

You don’t remember the thread in which you had an elaborate explanation as to why I was LKs sister? It got the thread closed.

In the past I’ve mostly ignored your little insinuations and accusations and let the moderator deal with them, but I’ll call them out in real time for you if you haven’t noticed you’re doing it. LOL.

[hut-ho78]

The conundrum of a SafeSport complaint where the reporter ends up shot twice in ICU. If her complaint is a bit off target, she still ended up shot twice and flatlining twice. She was shot while the child protective service employee was leaving.

The conundrum of a 756 page unverified rumors report sent to SafeSport by someone who then shoots the other complainant. Why not an eviction? Why not take that report and document the screaming and the bizarre FB posts and get a disorderly conduct eviction? 3 days.

[eggbutt]

FYI!

I have no connection to this man! Wow!!!

Can Gaslighting Lead to Legal Insanity? | Michael Barisone & Lauren Kanarek...

[hut-ho78]

@3PonyFarm

I have a question for our brilliant legal minds. Since the Krol hearing I have been wondering about this.

The prosecution’s position was that MB knew what he was doing and even the comments by the judge and CS about how his change in appearance since the trial was different and his appearance at the trial was for the jurys benefit.

How could he then say at the Krol hearing that they agreed with the stay at Greystone, a psychiatric hospital, when they claim he is not insane. How is that not punitive?

New Jersey State vs Fields goes into an excellent discussion of the dangers of letting someone out before they have worked the levels if they have not only been deemed to be a threat to self or others but been proven to have committed the acts of danger to self or others. Judges are to lean towards caution. I am not a lawyer. I hoped one would chime in but the link is what the judges wrote.

State v. Fields

[Warmblood1]

Re: LK was shot

Self defense is a constitutional right. Some people can legally be shot.

Doesn’t matter though. MB was acquitted and held no criminal responsibility.

LK has to prove her case all over again in the civil trial. Criminal trial is irrelevant. And it very much appears that self defense will be pursued.

LK is fighting an uphill battle, no matter how many times someone says “she was shot twice and flatlined.”

[skydy]

In @StB.YM 's post he/she says that oral arguments have not been granted.

[StB.YM]

@yaya

I only see pending. Where does it say not granted? Is it somewhere only NJ lawyers have access?

[skydy]

@StB.YM

The motion was first filed without the request for oral arguments - aka the judge can read the filings and decide by himself what the ruling is. Then the calendar was updated to show that oral arguments were requested (doesn’t say if by plaintiff or defendant). Now it shows that oral arguments have not been granted. And there’s all this activity now.

^^^