MB Civil Trial: JK/KK Contempt of Court?

[MHM]

@Omgitsme

So I guess we will find out if any of this was true? I would think evidence deemed inadmissible would be illegal to post, but that’s not my wheelhouse. Legal peeps?
ETA: if evidence was deemed inadmissible for the criminal trial, could it still be used for the civil case?

I’m behind on the thread again, but the irony of LK talking about others who will never be seen in the same light again after the facts come out is just too much. Pot, meet kettle.

[KurPlexed]

@CurrentlyHorseless

I think using your training and credentials to exploit celebrities as fodder for your YouTube channel is disgusting.

That’s disgusting but what LK has and is doing is just dandy. Got it.

[MHM]

@BatCoach

Like this little gem where he states he has no inside information.

Not to mention the part about SS/USEF monitoring the activity on the BB and knowing everyone’s identities.

Sure, Jan.

[CurrentlyHorseless]

@eggbutt

Yes but unless the SoL have run out, it seems the fact that PD did such a shoddy job should be grounds for another suit.

Honestly I’m surprised the sue happy Kanareks haven’t brought suit for the failure to collect forensic evidence, since that evidence would have brought a difference verdict assuming the evidence confirmed the stories RG/LK testified to.

No it wouldn’t have. As long as the jury determined that MB was legally insane at the time of the shooting, the verdict would still be NGRI.

The prosecutor met the bar of “beyond a reasonable doubt”. More evidence to meet the bar of “way, way, way beyond a reasonable doubt” would have made zero difference.

[MHM]

@Sdel

@eggbutt

Well, well, well…I wonder if USEF/SS has a copy of this, now that we know IM is actually Jonathan Kanarek?

Wow. The idea of IM/JK asking anyone else about admiring someone’s parenting style is just too much.

[erinmeri]

@FitzE

6 is much better. 15 is disadvantageous for the client.

We don’t use clocks, we use software with timers. You assign a timer for each deal you’re working on. When you start work on Deal A you click the Deal A timer. Click it off if you get up and go to the restroom or lunch, whatever, or switch to a different deal (and then click that timer). You type in a narrative for each day for each timer. The software keeps track all month and spits out a report, easy peasy!

I use a similar software for my consulting (not a lawyer!) and bill in 6 minute increments as well.

[CurrentlyHorseless]

@Sdel

@CurrentlyHorseless

Please stop the lecturing on how much you think I “loathe” MB.

Not until you stop pushing the false idea that we “hate” LK.

The idea that you (g) hate LK is false? Good to know.

I’ll leave it to each individual reader of these threads to assess for themselves your feelings toward LK. There’s no need for me to “push” anything.

[FitzE]

So, following along, do I have this right?

• a claim was made that IM had insider info and ‘never’ claimed otherwise --> proof was posted of IM claiming otherwise; and

• a claim was made that IM didn’t lie --> IM lies re: USEF and SS monitoring these chats AND knowing all the IRL identities of all participants was posted

And it was all ignored completely as if it never happened, am I getting that right?

[ekat]

@FitzE

So, following along, do I have this right?

• a claim was made that IM had insider info and ‘never’ claimed otherwise --> proof was posted of IM claiming otherwise; and
• a claim was made that IM didn’t lie --> IM lies re: USEF and SS monitoring these chats AND knowing all the IRL identities of all participants was posted

And it was all ignored completely as if it never happened, am I getting that right?

Don’t forget * IM never said that Lauren would train with MB again after the verdict —> except for that time IM said that after the verdict.

Other than that, yes, you are getting it perfect.

[CurrentlyHorseless]

@ekat

@FitzE

So, following along, do I have this right?

• a claim was made that IM had insider info and ‘never’ claimed otherwise --> proof was posted of IM claiming otherwise; and
• a claim was made that IM didn’t lie --> IM lies re: USEF and SS monitoring these chats AND knowing all the IRL identities of all participants was posted

And it was all ignored completely as if it never happened, am I getting that right?

Don’t forget * IM never said that Lauren would train with MB again after the verdict —> except for that time IM said that after the verdict.

Other than that, yes, you are getting it perfect.

Ekat- I originally missed that statement made by IM after the verdict. You were right; he said he would not rule out LK training with MB after the trial as well as before the trial.

[erinmeri]

@iridedressage

At the law firm where I used to work that would have been a power thing. My attorneys also used to return calls at lunch time knowing the people they were calling would be out and they wouldn’t have to actually talk to them. They played lots of power trip games with other attorneys.

Yes! Same in Hollywood. One former powerful big wig (now disgraced publicly) was notorious for returning calls at like 6am or 7am EST when he knew nobody would pick up. “Tag, you’re it!”

ETA: when I maintained the call sheet, had to roll calls, and had to attempt to clear it each day, I loathed that man.

[eggbutt]

Good idea! Does Venezuela have an Olympic dressage team? Might be an opportunity for the Olympics after all!

[CurrentlyHorseless]

@FitzE

So, following along, do I have this right?

• a claim was made that IM had insider info and ‘never’ claimed otherwise --> proof was posted of IM claiming otherwise; and

• a claim was made that IM didn’t lie --> IM lies re: USEF and SS monitoring these chats AND knowing all the IRL identities of all participants was posted

And it was all ignored completely as if it never happened, am I getting that right?

Re: the screenshot of IM saying “Of course I have no inside information”. I took that as sarcasm.

Bad, bad IM for not including the /s. Maybe he overestimated the powers of perception of his audience.

[StB.YM]

@CurrentlyHorseless

The prosecutor met the bar of “beyond a reasonable doubt”. More evidence to meet the bar of “way, way, way beyond a reasonable doubt” would have made zero difference.

I’m sorry, but this is nonsense. I doubt you could find a single, good prosecutor in the world who would turn down more evidence for a stronger foothold in their case. No one worth their salt as a prosecutor says, well, we have enough evidence so we’re not going to pursue these additional paths so that the jury can be even more confident in our side of the case.

[ekat]

@CurrentlyHorseless

Ekat- I originally missed that statement made by IM after the verdict. You were right; he said he would not rule out LK training with MB after the trial as well as before the trial.

Thank you for admitting you were wrong.

[StB.YM]

@CurrentlyHorseless

Re: the screenshot of IM saying “Of course I have no inside information”. I took that as sarcasm.

So why didn’t you take what @eggbutt said as sarcasm? Why does IM get the special privilege of being protected from his inconsistent statements?

[ekat]

@CurrentlyHorseless

Re: the screenshot of IM saying “Of course I have no inside information”. I took that as sarcasm.

Bad, bad IM for not including the /s. Maybe he overestimated the powers of perception of his audience.

So, it’s ok when IM says it because he’s your hero and the paragon of honesty and obviously we all missed the /s. But it’s twisted and deceptive when Eggbutt says it? I just want to make sure I understand.

[MHM]

Phew. I finally caught up on the thread again!

I have to reiterate how much faster and easier and less annoying that process is with the ignore feature firmly in place. It makes a world of difference.

One odd thing is that periodically I will see a post or two from someone I have on ignore. But then when I refresh the page, those replies are hidden again. Didn’t someone else say they had that same experience with the ignore feature? It seems like sort of a strange thing.

[trubandloki]

I am sensing a double standard. The family that lies must be telling the truth and when it looks like a lie it was clearly meant as a joke with some sarcasm, heck with the fact that the rest of the post was threatening everyone with a lie…
Someone who typically is honest and tells the truth, they must be lying.
So weird, so very weird.

[Brown_Derby]

You did not miss much. Tide seems to be turning back to it’s all Stormy Daniel’s fault. Oops, I mean MHG.