MB Civil Trial: JK/KK Contempt of Court?

[erinmeri]

@SillyHorse

Why, sure. And don’t let anyone in a bathrobe tell you any different.

Next time my trainer says “that’s him telling you that you’re not straight!” I shall declare “this is me living my best dressage diva life! Wait till you see me in the GP!”

[Long_Time_Lurker]

@eggbutt

Rider drug testing is FEI levels

But only if you actually show (at a CDI). Not for playing around with the movements at home without any witnesses to confirm whether or how well the movements are performed.

[Warmblood1]

@MHM

@Warmblood1

I for one do not care what level LK is training at. What boggles my mind is bragging about said levels when it hugely conflicts with the claims of one’s civil suit.

So dumb.

Yes, but…

Wasn’t it “RG” who was bragging about it? Or perhaps one of RG’s alters? Honestly, I’ve sort of lost track by this time.

Point being, maybe LK could try to claim that she was not the one making those statements, so she would not be held accountable for their accuracy as they pertain to her civil suit.

I agree that it is the world’s worst attempt to hide behind an identity, but I do think it’s LK. Only she would remember all of those show names and whatever it is she won several years ago. Even if RG were a horse person and competed, I don’t think he’d remember those exact details.

@eggbutt

@Angela_Freda

@ekat

@eggbutt

Dang, riders are going to be flocking to LK for super lessons! Maybe she’ll start giving clinics!!

Can she do that with all her COVID worries?

Not without completing her SS renewal I don’t believe

Oh dear, my bad! I failed to clearly mark my post of 18 hours ago as sarcasm!!!

So, let me clarify, I was being incredibly facetious when implying anyone would flock to Lauren Kanarek for a spot in a clinic with her as the marquis clinician

Can we put this last attempt at derailing to the side now?

No one is trying to derail the thread or do anything nefarious. The topic is in relation to USEF/SS stipulations and how in the world she would claim loss of income.

[eggbutt]

My apologies. I must have misread the posts up thread asking who said LK was teaching clinics with several back and forth posts about her teaching clinics.

[trubandloki]

@eggbutt

My apologies. I must have misread the posts up thread asking who said LK was teaching clinics with several back and forth posts about her teaching clinics.

Someone joked up thread that with LK’s new amazing skills she will be teaching clinics in no time.
The miles later in the thread someone else made the topic of being a member into something else, that is what you caught the end of.

[MHM]

@Warmblood1

I agree that it is the world’s worst attempt to hide behind an identity, but I do think it’s LK. Only she would remember all of those show names and whatever it is she won several years ago. Even if RG were a horse person and competed, I don’t think he’d remember those exact details.

Oh, no doubt. But in this case, I think the phrase in question would be “plausible deniability.”

Mind you, the Ks seem to have a very different idea of what might be plausible compared to the rest of the world.

[eggbutt]

Apparently. Thank you!

[eggbutt]

Tomorrow is Monday - will we see the Judge’s decision? Will Michael FINALLY be moved? Will Lauren withdraw her suits?
Will the mysterious video be turned over? Will the Krifecta hire separate attorneys, assuming anyone will take their case? Will Rob change his user name again? So many questions waiting for answers!

[Sdel]

I imagine they will not hire an attorney, because only an insane attorney would recommend they refuse to not comply with the subpoena….

There is enough evidence presented in the filings to be clear that there is something to be discovered there.

[CurrentlyHorseless]

@OntheFnce

@ekat

@CurrentlyHorseless

If there were records that she had competed at fourth and PSG, it would be demonstrably true that she was riding at those levels

Big if there, especially the PSG part.

She had entered a PSG but scratched.

Well, she would have to scratch the August show if she were in the ICU after being shot, wouldn’t she?

[erinmeri]

@eggbutt

Tomorrow is Monday - will we see the Judge’s decision? Will Michael FINALLY be moved? Will Lauren withdraw her suits?
Will the mysterious video be turned over? Will the Krifecta hire separate attorneys, assuming anyone will take their case? Will Rob change his user name again? So many questions waiting for answers!

Great teaser for tomorrow’s episode of Keeping Up With The Kanareks!

[eggbutt]

Am I the only one here with personal history with Lauren? That’s a rhetorical question cause I don’t expect or want anyone to out themselves. But it hasn’t been lost on anyone that the target of much of the vitriol is poor little Eggbutt. Maybe she can change her name to Snaffle. Will anyone notice?

[BigMama1]

@Omgitsme

believe that’s true. Like no USEF member can ride with George Morris.

And yet many apparently still do

[CurrentlyHorseless]

@Warmblood1

When looking at the posts about the 48 Hours episode, I haven’t seen a single person say, “well, official eviction was only x amount of time prior.” I have seen a few comments saying they wish MB had hired an attorney and went through the eviction process. They just didn’t realize he had. I don’t think the jury is going to care at all that an official note was served on x date prior to the incident. They are going to see she drove him insane which was also established in the criminal trial.

The civil case is absolutely dependent on LK being seen as a victim but LK’s ego has proven her to be an extremely unsympathetic victim.

@Graymaresrule

I’ve known two alcoholics, one who was also dependent on codine for a while. They were both amazing liars. I could tell some unbelievable stories.

I suspect addicts start out by lying to themselves.

I’ve known a lot of addicts. Some may be good liars but many can not keep the lies and delusions straight because of their intoxication. It creates a veil where one does not see the same reality as others, yet they are extremely convinced their version of reality is accurate. Active addicts also have a very self serving, selfish nature that can go away when clean but usually never does while still using. That is the nature of addiction and constantly feeding that addiction.

The civil suit is a personal injury lawsuit. LK’s injuries stem
from her being a gunshot victim.

Some posters claim it is not clear and not well established that it was Barisone who shot her. I think it is abundantly clear that he shot her.

[Fiesta01]

@CurrentlyHorseless

It is entirely consistent with what JK said in the excellent 48 hours broadcast: that the situation went very suddenly from a cold war to a hot war on August 1.

Interesting you call the 48 Hours episode “excellent.” According to comments from the non-horsey public, it definitely showed LK for who she is. (Hint: it wasn’t in a positive light).

[BigMama1]

@CurrentlyHorseless

The civil suit is a personal injury lawsuit. LK’s injuries stem
from her being a gunshot victim.

Some posters claim it is not clear and not well established that it was Barisone who shot her. I think it is abundantly clear that he shot her.

Shame you aren’t on the civil jury then, isn’t it? I suspect when presented with all the evidence (or more specifically the lack of any forensic evidence thst conclusively places a gun in MB’s hand or confirms he pulled the trigger) they may have difficulty leaping to that conclusion. Time will tell.

[CurrentlyHorseless]

@Warmblood1

They are going to see she drove him insane which was also established in the criminal trial.

The jury determined that he was legally insane at the time that he shot her. The jury was not charged with determining the underlying cause or the proximal case of his delusions, only that he was delusional.

[CurrentlyHorseless]

@Fiesta01

@CurrentlyHorseless

It is entirely consistent with what JK said in the excellent 48 hours broadcast: that the situation went very suddenly from a cold war to a hot war on August 1.

Interesting you call the 48 Hours episode “excellent.” According to comments from the non-horsey public, it definitely showed LK for who she is. (Hint: it wasn’t in a positive light).

One of the reasons I found it to be excellent is that it did not gloss over “who she is”. It unsparingly covered the inflammatory posts.

[CurrentlyHorseless]

@BigMama1

@CurrentlyHorseless

The civil suit is a personal injury lawsuit. LK’s injuries stem
from her being a gunshot victim.

Some posters claim it is not clear and not well established that it was Barisone who shot her. I think it is abundantly clear that he shot her.

Shame you aren’t on the civil jury then, isn’t it? I suspect when presented with all the evidence (or more specifically the lack of any forensic evidence thst conclusively places a gun in MB’s hand or confirms he pulled the trigger) they may have difficulty leaping to that conclusion. Time will tell.

It was not a very big leap.

Contrary to Ekat’s prediction, I don’t think the defense lawyers will even waste time (and money) trying to dispute that he shot her.

Time will tell.

[Fiesta01]

@ekat

So, what are her losses we are supposed to compensate her for?

The emotional trauma of not being able to Finish the Bastard? MB will be released sooner rather than later. His family and friends are waiting to help him get his life back. And it will be a good life again, unlike the lives of certain other people who only exist to harm others.