MB Civil Trial: JK/KK Contempt of Court?

[CurrentlyHorseless]

@Warmblood1

CH is assuming MB cashed a board check in August. CH has no proof.

No. I’m not assuming it. I think I said “If he accepted and cashed a check …”.

If I didn’t specify the “If”, I meant to. I do not know for a fact whether MB accepted payment for Aug board or not.

[Fiesta01]

@Ambitious_Kate

He learned his personal rhythm on the longe in side reins, and boy did he get strong from longe and side reins. It was like yoga for him. I could never have ridden what he learned from longeing without the longeing and side reins.

This ^ times 100.
My OTTB gelding came off the track, had been injured and thrown into a pasture for a year. I bought him and started from scratch. I had my saddle fitter come immediately. There was an 11 degree difference in his shoulder angles.

I spent 4 months teaching him about lunging and side reins and how to move through his back into contact. I usually spent 25 minutes on the lunge, doing lots of transitions. I started with loose side reins, slowly shortening them incrementally during the process as he warmed up and accepted contact. I “talked” with him through the lunge line hand, softly squeezing and releasing periodically. Then I would ride for another 25 minutes.

Saddle fitter came back after 4 months. His back muscles had developed beautifully, and the difference in his shoulder angles was 2 degrees. He said he had never seen such a huge improvement in such a short amount of time.

Correct lunging can definitely be a game changer.

Sorry. End of sidebar.

[MHM]

@MorganSercu

Still doesn’t mean he could control what she says or did. He could control what he did with the money after the fact.

I beg to differ.

If he was the one writing the checks for all the horse related bills, he could have told her, “I am not paying any more board or rent at MB’s facility, since clearly they want you out of there. The lawyers have arranged for stalls at X facility, and starting on August 1st, that is where I will pay the board bills. Nowhere else.”

Unless she was going to get a job at McDonald’s to pay the board bills herself, which seems extremely unlikely, she would have had to relocate the horses and herself, and thus could have avoided the whole chain of events that occurred after August 1st.

[erinmeri]

@omare

I am not sure if this was still at issue why MB attorneys let 48 hours repeatedly say he shot her. These theorectslly jmay be legal arguments that can be made but I am no litigator.

They didn’t. They said that what happened next “was unclear”.

[MorganSercu]

I think she is spiteful enough to have stayed put and put her plan into action regardless. Plus who knows if she has an online side hustle and has earnings stashed away somewhere that he doesn’t know about?

She is an adult. He can’t muzzle her. At 41 I think she is unlikely to improve much, if at all.

But it sure would have been nice if he had said something a lot like that. Preferably two decades earlier and then followed through with it.

[erinmeri]

@Maria

I don’t know about the rest of you who board your horse at someone else’s farm or board horses at your farm, but where I board, board is due the 1st day of the month. Every month. Where I board, it is considered late after the 5th of the month.

Yep! Barns have a lot of overhead and they need the cash flow. You pay IN ADVANCE. Those who are presently without equine company may not be aware of that fact.

[MHM]

@MorganSercu

But it sure would have been nice if he had said something a lot like that. Preferably two decades earlier and then followed through with it.

Yes, indeed.

Instead he aided and abetted her.

[eggbutt]

Daddy likes Venmo

[Danvers]

Doesn’t seem he told her to knock it off… looks like he supported the behavior and backed her behavior and situation - as did her mother by transcribing the tapes… I find this extraordinary.

[eggbutt]

Why does anyone care whether August 2019 board was paid? Is that what the lawsuit is about? Do they want a refund if they paid it? By the way, hopefully they did pay that board because those damn horses were there well into September!!! Who paid for the grain, shavings, hay, stall picking/stripping until she finally packed up and left? Huh???

These jokers will do anything to attempt to defend the predators or to deflect from the behavior of these despicable people!

Please put these two posters on ignore. Enough of the repetitious posts yammering on and on about irrelevant [things].

[MHM]

@eggbutt

By the way, hopefully they did pay that board because those damn horses were there well into September!!!

What are the odds the board bill was settled properly for the date the horses actually left?

I’m guessing slim to none.

[Danvers]

agree, but if he has control of her $$$ how could a parent allow this behavior? If a sibling of mine behaved this way I would call them on the carpet - my parents would certainly have a lot to say! so no, I think the apple and tree, and one reaps what one sows…

[Sdel]

@Danvers

agree, but if he has control of her $$$ how could a parent allow this behavior? If a sibling of mine behaved this way I would call them on the carpet - my parents would certainly have a lot to say! so no, I think the apple and tree, and one reaps what one sows…

Remember….Michael could have LK/JK’s money or his girlfriend, but not both. He was supposed to choose.

[Danvers]

DITTO!!! 100%. unacceptable behavior. in any situation. totally unacceptable!

[eggbutt]

Because, as has been said repeatedly, this family is all alike!

[hut-ho78]

@Knights_Mom

@hut-ho78

The work RG was doing was water damage repair from the freeze. So long as he wasn’t changing the house footprint, wiring, or plumbing, permits were not required.

The barn never had occupancy for people, the septic tank was undersized, the house basement only had one egress and had occupancy as 2 apartments/duplex-1st and 2nd floor, not 3 apartments basement, 1st, and 2nd floor. The barn did not meet fire code for people occupancy. The house smoke detectors were allegedly ripped out by MB and RG repaired them.

He would likely have seen what was not to code though if he ever worked for a firm updating kitchens and bathroom.

Just pulling out Sheetrock and putting in new tile would not need permits.

If work was done for compensation by an illegal contractor the work is illegal.

Not if MB was his own contractor.

[CurrentlyHorseless]

@eggbutt

Why does anyone care whether August 2019 board was paid? Is that what the lawsuit is about? Do they want a refund if they paid it? By the way, hopefully they did pay that board because those damn horses were there well into September!!! Who paid for the grain, shavings, hay, stall picking/stripping until she finally packed up and left? Huh???

These jokers will do anything to attempt to defend the predators or to deflect from the behavior of these despicable people!

Please put these two posters on ignore. Enough of the repetitious posts yammering on and on about irrelevant BS.

If you’re trying to make it clear to someone that they are not welcome to board at your facility, you don’t accept their board payment. Accepting payment suggests agreeing to accept their horses for board.

It’s just a little extra evidence, if he cashed the check or accepted payment, that perhaps he had not asked her to leave prior to Aug 1.

[StB.YM]

@CurrentlyHorseless

It’s just a little extra evidence, if he cashed the check or accepted payment, that perhaps he had not asked her to leave prior to Aug 1.

She had been asked.

[hut-ho78]

@NEEDS_A_NAP

Yep what they said. In a way I guess it was my fault for even mentioning him. Was trying to explain to CH who was throwing shade about MHG not having full custody of her kids. I mentioned that since they were teenagers or almost so, and their father lived in the same town
He had always lived in, they might like that continuity.

CH then demonstrated googling skills. But even weirder came back later to ask if I thought he minded that they had done so. I was literally trying to reply on my phone in a parking lot when I noticed the thread was closed.

Just another example of CH thinking the world revolves around this subject and it’s many threads. I have mentioned before I live in NC, my daughter in her teen years rode in some of the same shows that MHG did. She was always a nice kid.

When did the topic change from the trial to CH?

[StB.YM]

They new with absolute certainty MB wanted them gone - irrespective of the date they received an eviction notice. They certainly listened to enough illegally recorded conversation to discern as much.