MB Civil Trial: JK/KK Contempt of Court?

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@Ambitious_Kate

@eggbutt

Why does anyone care whether August 2019 board was paid? Is that what the lawsuit is about? Do they want a refund if they paid it? By the way, hopefully they did pay that board because those damn horses were there well into September!!! Who paid for the grain, shavings, hay, stall picking/stripping until she finally packed up and left? Huh???

These jokers will do anything to attempt to defend the predators or to deflect from the behavior of these despicable people!

Please put these two posters on ignore. Enough of the repetitious posts yammering on and on about irrelevant BS.

Anyway, how come suddenly board was being paid by check? RG said he paid board wiht work in kind.

and since when does paying board entitle you to housing? 5k was for horse board, not for housing. I thought the housing was “free”.

I thought $5000 covered 2 horses and as long as LK was in training, they could live in the house. That was 2018. In 2019, the house was damaged from the freeze and a barter deal was negotiated where RG would work off the board for additional horses and the $5000 still covered the 2 original horses plus housing. Depending on who is talking and when, RG was said to do good work or not enough work or he didn’t know what he was doing and a barn staff member did most of the tiling. It was a non-contract verbal deal so no deliverables, no specifications. RG said he just worked the board amount. MB said it was not enough and too slow.

[Jealoushe]

Can someone refresh my memory did the owners of the farm in NJ testify? I don’t remember seeing them.

[CurrentlyHorseless]

@eggbutt

I do hope when CoTH upgrades the system again, if they don’t restore the total User Block feature, that they modify the system so an Ignored user’s post is not seen when another user quotes the ignored user’s post. It sort of partially defeats the ignore feature!

In the meantime, you could cope by ignoring “through force of will” as the moderator suggested.

[eggbutt]

No, they did not. Anything they had to say would not have been germane in the criminal trial.

[Jealoushe]

Darn, I would be interested in their accounts of things. Did they live on the farm too or elsewhere?

[CurrentlyHorseless]

@Ambitious_Kate

@CurrentlyHorseless

No. I’m not assuming it. I think I said “If he accepted and cashed a check …”.

If I didn’t specify the “If”, I meant to. I do not know for a fact whether MB accepted payment for Aug board or not.

Probably not, as it was being paid by RG doing “work”’ on the house, and I doubt that when he returned to the farm after the shooting, he did any further work on the house. So why have you all of a sudden come up with checks being written?

No. LK was paying $5,000 per month plus the bartered renovation work.

[CurrentlyHorseless]

@LookinForSpace

I thought it was found in the police vehicle, not in MB’s pocket?

One of the police officers found the magazine in Barisone’s pocket, and placed it in the police car.

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@LookinForSpace

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@hut-ho78

in the second magazine in MB’s pocket

I thought it was found in the police vehicle, not in MB’s pocket?

Magazine was found by the 3rd LE officer on the scene. Handgun was pulled from underneath MB by the 1st LE officer on the scene and tossed to the side where the 2nd LE officer on the scene, who handcuffed MB and RG, found it and placed it in the back of Corporal Fellini’s patrol car.

Edited to add commas because someone is having fun with the post.

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@Knights_Mom

@hut-ho78

@Knights_Mom

@hut-ho78

The work RG was doing was water damage repair from the freeze. So long as he wasn’t changing the house footprint, wiring, or plumbing, permits were not required.

The barn never had occupancy for people, the septic tank was undersized, the house basement only had one egress and had occupancy as 2 apartments/duplex-1st and 2nd floor, not 3 apartments basement, 1st, and 2nd floor. The barn did not meet fire code for people occupancy. The house smoke detectors were allegedly ripped out by MB and RG repaired them.

He would likely have seen what was not to code though if he ever worked for a firm updating kitchens and bathroom.

Just pulling out Sheetrock and putting in new tile would not need permits.

If work was done for compensation by an illegal contractor the work is illegal.

Not if MB was his own contractor.

Then why did LK assert RG was owed $50,000? Please pick an argument and stick with it so I know which one of many ways to prove you wrong again.

Thanks, you’re a dear.

I don’t know. I never knew why LK thought RG was owed $50,000.

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@Jealoushe

Can someone refresh my memory did the owners of the farm in NJ testify? I don’t remember seeing them.

No.

[Ambitious_Kate]

@CurrentlyHorseless

I was not “throwing shade” at MHG for not having full custody of her kids. If MHG left her husband to have an affair with MB, and MB’s having the affair with MHG caused MBs wife to divorce him, I think that history is somewhat relevant for the dynamics of Aug 2019.

None of that happened. What are you making up now?

[NEEDS_A_NAP]

I didn’t disclose the town he lived in.

[Fiesta01]

@DownYonder

That COTH press release is quite thought-provoking.

I bet Bellissimo is rather thankful to get COTH out of his hair, esp. since it could apparently be weaponized by various parties for various reasons.

Also - the timing of that notice is pretty interesting, given that we just went on a tangent about Ulf Moeller, who is Helgstrand’s right-hand man in his Wellington sales operation.

I posted the following in the Helgstrand Acquires COTH thread but realized some posters over there might not be following the MB threads and have no idea what it meant.

Remember syllogisms? If I were a QAnon type (believer in wacky conspiracy theories), I could write a syllogism. (OK, kind of a syllogism).

LK trains with Ulf (Helgstrand).
The Ks don’t like what we write in COTH.
The Ks (Helgstrand) buy COTH.

ETA: Before I get reported and into trouble, it’s a joke.

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@LookinForSpace

I think you have that partly backwards…the poster was NOT confirmed TO BE a specific banned poster. Each time this question comes up with whichever poster is currently under question as an alter, checking the IP for that account may identify a poster IS using the same account as another screen name and is therefore linked, but the fact that a poster is NOT using the same account does not rule out the possibility that it is indeed the same poster who is simply using another computer/location/VPN whatever. In other words, it can be proven in the positive, but not in the negative.

So, curiously, the user JumpinQueen (another LK supporter) was banned. I have no idea what they did to get banned seeing as how they were not of banned status for a long time after they stopped posting (they only posted in MB threads). I can only assume that the username was associated with LK’s IP and when she was banned, so was this user name.

[eggbutt]

They live at their estate about 40 miles away I believe.

[eggbutt]

@Fiesta01

LK trains with Ulf (Helgstrand).

Not anymore and hasn’t since the trial.

[Fiesta01]

Shucks! There goes my syllogism.

[Knights_Mom]

Damn now I have to look up syllogism.

LOL and I know many of you have to too!

Any word that ends in jism makes me giggle.

[MHM]

@eggbutt

@Fiesta01

LK trains with Ulf (Helgstrand).

Not anymore and hasn’t since the trial.

Was that related to the trial? Or is that just the time he normally would go back to Europe anyway?

[MHM]

@Ambitious_Kate

@MHM

Unless she was going to get a job at McDonald’s to pay the board bills herself, which seems extremely unlikely, she would have had to relocate the horses and herself, and thus could have avoided the whole chain of events that occurred after August 1st.

So I’m confused. Was Daddio on the Patio paying board? Or was RG paying board through work? What gives here?

I remember very clearly in the trial when Mr. B asked LK where the money was coming from to pay the bills and she said it was coming from her dad, who got the money “from the bank.”

Based on that, it sounded like the dad was paying at least some of the bills. Then maybe RG was supposed to be working off a portion of it.

I will admit I did not have the fortitude to go back and watch the testimony again to double check. I can only tip my hat to the people who are willing to put themselves through that experience again. Lol.