MB Civil Trial: JK/KK Contempt of Court?

[3PonyFarm]

Thank you, maybe my memory is not as bad as I thought.

[CurrentlyHorseless]

@eggbutt

@DownYonder

@MHM

Did they attend a show somewhere in the interim? Maybe if she did not get the scores she wanted with whatever the recent training program was, that set her off.

I thought she had scratched from the show or just didn’t go. Can someone with access to the USDF database confirm if she was entered in a show in May or June 2019, and if so, did she actually compete?

USDFScores.com does not record scratches or no shows. Only earned scores.

So she went to two shows in June 2019, and her last show before she was shot was July 24, 2019.

[eggbutt]

@Graymaresrule

@MHM

@3PonyFarm

That show and MHG’s response should probably be on ekat’s timeline.

@ekat, do you think the show and response is significant enough to add to the chain of events?

It might not be significant enough in a discussion about rational people. However…

Yes but I think it was fuel on the fire

True. She actually alluded to MHG somehow getting the show to switch the judge simply to cause LK to not get the required score. Like MH was that devious or had that kind of clout with show management and show management would comply. Delusion, paranoia, bitterness, and hate all rolled up in one!

I agree “2nd level Judge Brown fiasco” should be on the timeline because it really pushed Lauren over the edge in her belief MH deliberately cost her the score. Obviously MH thought she got it and publicly congratulated her (seems quite professional and nice of her to do) which caused LK think she was rubbing her nose in it!

[eggbutt]

Yes, our posts crossed. See above.

[OntheFnce]

@CurrentlyHorseless

@eggbutt

@DownYonder

@MHM

Did they attend a show somewhere in the interim? Maybe if she did not get the scores she wanted with whatever the recent training program was, that set her off.

I thought she had scratched from the show or just didn’t go. Can someone with access to the USDF database confirm if she was entered in a show in May or June 2019, and if so, did she actually compete?

USDFScores.com does not record scratches or no shows. Only earned scores.

So she went to two shows in June 2019, and her last show before she was shot was July 24, 2019.

No, she went to 5 shows in 2019. The USEF website shows all rated shows, all classes entered, scratched, etc.

[ekat]

@Omgitsme

Did anyone confirm there were audio devices?

We know there were because both LK and RG testified to them. What’s up for debate still is when they actually purchased them and where.

There are texts between JK, LK, and RG that talk about where to place them but those texts were excluded from the criminal trial after a lengthy debate.

[ekat]

I will add the shows to the timeline!

[CurrentlyHorseless]

@OntheFnce

@CurrentlyHorseless

@eggbutt

@DownYonder

@MHM

Did they attend a show somewhere in the interim? Maybe if she did not get the scores she wanted with whatever the recent training program was, that set her off.

I thought she had scratched from the show or just didn’t go. Can someone with access to the USDF database confirm if she was entered in a show in May or June 2019, and if so, did she actually compete?

USDFScores.com does not record scratches or no shows. Only earned scores.

So she went to two shows in June 2019, and her last show before she was shot was July 24, 2019.

No, she went to 5 shows in 2019. The USEF website shows all rated shows, all classes entered, scratched, etc.

??? How does that contradict what I wrote?

It seems significant to me that, as a client of Barisone, she went to a show as recently as July 24, 2019.

[CurrentlyHorseless]

@ekat

I will add the shows to the timeline!

Perhaps the levels and scores as well?

[ekat]

If someone wants to give them to me I will.

[ekat]

@CurrentlyHorseless

It seems significant to me that, as a client of Barisone, she went to a show as recently as July 24, 2019.

That one was already on the timeline.

[Sdel]

There is a reference on FB that she wasn’t happy about training fees or something at one of the shows. I’ll look for it and post it in a bit.

[KurPlexed]

@DownYonder

Way overdone - like totally over the top. And why was she so flippin’ desperate to stay there? It makes no sense to a rational brain.

Bc she finally had the attn of a big named trainer (even if she was just a paycheck to him) and she knew she’d never get another opportunity. After all, the horse world is small and news travels fast.

On a side note I’d bet it all that he never asked, let alone begged, her to come to NJ (as was claimed in 48h). I believe it was presented to him and he agreed based on a paycheck. It wasn’t the “talent” shellhorn alluded to.

[hut-ho78]

@eggbutt

There must be a valid reason to request a subpoena. Just cause I want to know who someone is is not a valid reason, unless maybe in NJ (s)

Which is why it is not confirmed JK is IM.

[EmilyM]

I’m surprised she spent the entire season in Florida and didn’t show based on the scores posted here.

[hut-ho78]

@CurrentlyHorseless

@cutter99

@CurrentlyHorseless

@DownYonder

@CurrentlyHorseless

Of course if one lawyer can subpoena Coth for user identities, the other lawyers can, too.

Hmmm. Someone is trying to intimidate us into shutting up…

Whatever (thanks, @trubandloki)!

No, I’m not trying to “intimidate” you into “shutting up”.

I would have thought it was an obvious observation that once lawyer A had subpoenaed Coth for user identities, lawyers B and C could, too. That really had not occurred to you?

Which means your identity could be made public too @CurrentlyHorseless! Every thought of that???

Yep. If my identity is made public it will reveal I’m not any of the identities the mob has tried to pin on me!

I’m not an insider, not a member of the Kanarek family, and my identity, if revealed, would merely show I’m the random nobody I’ve said I was all along.

Same here.

[Omgitsme]

Both known liars.
I ask because when she doxxed me she told me she was calling the sheriff to arrest me for cyber bullying (oh the irony). Obviously no sheriff came. When I confronted her years later

That’s almost definitely a lie. Why would she record herself calling the sheriff because I was “cyber bullying” her?

Anyway now I’m wondering about the veracity of any listening device.

[Jealoushe]

@enjoytheride

I don’t think that cashing a check for August board = MB never asked LK to leave or wanted to evict or or was thinking about/already had filed for eviction. Nor does accepting a board check mean that an eviction has been cancelled. I have no idea what the contract was, but the board check being cashed isn’t an Ah Ha! moment or a gottcha. It’s probably not even related at all. Boarding contracts can and do vary, sometimes wildly.

My post had nothing to do with MB or LK it was literally a general question about a comment made

[ekat]

@Omgitsme

Anyway now I’m wondering about the veracity of any listening device.

Oh wow. She’s so charming.

I agree they play fast and loose with the truth. But there’s evidence recordings exist. 81 of them were turned over by the prosecutor. As to how many, how long she was doing it, and where she was doing it from, I suspect we will learn more as the civil suit progresses.

[Knights_Mom]

@Omgitsme

Both known liars.
I ask because when she doxxed me she told me she was calling the sheriff to arrest me for cyber bullying (oh the irony). Obviously no sheriff came. When I confronted her years later

That’s almost definitely a lie. Why would she record herself calling the sheriff because I was “cyber bullying” her?

Anyway now I’m wondering about the veracity of any listening device.

I would say to run a contest to guess how many people she’s threatened legal action upon but it seems the number of people would end up being ginormous.

Who DOES that?