MB Civil Trial: JK/KK Contempt of Court?

Just throw out the teaser and see if they bite. Don’t try to condense it, get paid for talking about it on work time…

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Yet you still felt you needed to respond to it. SMH.

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Since Michael is still sitting at AK playing assistant helping them with other patients, does that mean when the State of NJ Legal System finally considers the rights of NG detainees and he is moved to Greystone, does the March date still stand for the next hearing or will “someone” try to push that out until 2025 or further and just admit it is for punitive reasons once and for all? I promise this is getting national attention and is being questioned by many influences.

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Ha, I don’t think my employer would be thrilled about that. And since my boss represents our employer, I doubt she would condone such a conversation anyway. But I may ask them during our next “social hour.”

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Yes, your question was “Why is anyone rehashing this [the criminal trial]”?

“Rehashing” is objected to when minority posters dare to respond to the rehashing done by majority posters, which of course is totally acceptable.

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That’s what they do, they claim to not understand what is being replied to them.

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Isn’t the delay due to a bed shortage at Greystone?

Who are you accusing of causing a punitive delay? The judge?

Don’t you mean “NGRI detainees”? If he had been found NG on all counts, he would have been released in April.

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I think people are asking for you to look at this objectively, and you can’t/won’t. Which is not surprising, but if you took all of the names out of the situation, and looked at the evidence, it isn’t exactly an airtight case. Sure the jury reached a certain conclusion, and that’s worth noting, but look at the actual evidence. When I say evidence I’m not talking about “he said/she said” arguments and testimonies, I’m talking about forensics. There’s no doubt that LK ended up with 2 bullets in her. How they got there is up for debate (no, really, it is). Since there is no video of the incident (allegedly… That’s a whole 'nother can of worms) we have to rely on other evidence. Was everyone tested for GSR? The ballistics…other documented pieces of evidence. Can we, without any doubt, be 100% sure that MB shot LK? Not based off of opinion, but based off of the evidence. Again, not based off of opinion.

That’s what people are getting at. While the evidence may be sufficient for some to form an opinion, or feed their bias, is it objectively conclusive? If all other details were withheld and someone brought this before you solely with the forensics, does it 100% confirm what did or didn’t happen? This isn’t a “For me, yes, it does” this isn’t about opinion or belief, it’s about fact and being able to demonstrate exactly what transpired on evidence alone.

Regardless of what I “think” happened, the evidence doesn’t 100% validate that MB shot LK. There are some discrepancies and the argument has some holes in it.

Of course someone is going to come here and say, “Well, why didn’t they go straight for not guilty at the trial then?” It’s entirely possible that they felt it too risky of a strategy. That does not equate to the admission of guilt. There are quite a few things at play in a criminal trial with a jury including admissibility and the juries perception. These are “lay people” and there’s a few things to consider when coming up with a plea. Choosing a safe strategy doesn’t always mean that a other plea would’ve been “false” so to speak. Or that the one chosen was wrong. Sometimes it really comes down to choosing the safest route for your client. Sometimes the truth cannot be accurately depicted due to what is allowed in court/by the judge and due to how the jury may see it or have to work amongst themselves.

It’s a entirely possible that many jurors felt that MB was straight up not guilty, but had to reach a compromise with someone/those that weren’t sure, or weren’t comfortable with that. As we’ve seen on here, some people don’t live in reality and lack the ability to be objective, or even process and accept fact, so this can happen within a jury as well. We don’t know.

How some of you can be so sure, is puzzling.

It may be due to my professional background, where I have to prove/have proof and research that supports every word that I say, so maybe I’m overly critical, but I just can’t say, definitely, that MB shot LK. Someone could begin poking holes in that statement and I’d be grasping around trying to provide the evidence…which isn’t all there. This case isn’t alone, and this type of stuff has happened before.

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I still think the issue of his continued incarceration needs to be put in front of folks with some legal and political clout - the state Attorney General, state and U.S. congressional representatives and senators, etc. And investigative reporters for local media organizations. If his team of supporters starts shaking trees, hopefully someone will wake up and take notice of the appearance of a miscarriage of justice and possible bias, undue influence, and cronyism in the Morris County judicial system.

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And you’ll likely find yourself saying, “But wait, there’s more.”

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Uh-huh! Wheels should have been put in motion last year! But, national attention has recently helped for sure.

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I have certainly said that phrase in relation to this case….

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Sufficient? Good enough? Either you think poorly of law enforcement or you’re excusing incompetence. Do I expect things to be perfect? Of course not. Law enforcement is supposed to do their best, and their best shouldn’t be labeled as “sufficient” or “good enough.”
Also, don’t understand why you’re so salty at me.

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You are acting truly bizarre towards me, yet again trying to control what I post through condescending and pointless comments.

I expect you to call out every poster who discusses the criminal trials details from here on out to be called out by you, since you have such an issue with it.

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I think the police not following standard protocol (everyone on the scene is a suspect) along with the abysmal lack of forensic evidence (seriously - no GSR testing of hands on all three?) is the equivalent of the cops who parked their cruiser ON RR TRACKS and then put the suspect in that car.

The car was hit by a train. The woman survived and understandably is suing the cops/department.

It’s in CE if anyone is interested.

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Whose “they”?

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Great post @CanteringCarrot! (It only lets me like things once and that did not seem enough.)

What makes no sense about that is…isn’t everyone in life, like every person who ever learned to drive ever, taught to not park on the tracks - ever. Ignoring the whole stupidity of putting a person in the car while it is there, I do not get why they would park there to start with. Totally WTF.

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I would guess they is anyone who “claim to not understand what is being replied to them”.

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Let me explain this in terms you might be able to understand:

Comment on =/= attempt to control. Get it?

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