MB Civil Trial: JK/KK Contempt of Court?

[Maria]

I bet you do. lol These judges can be interesting, to say the least

[trubandloki]

@Knights_Mom

Suffice it to say, I know them, their foibles and their scheduling.

And how they like their floors vacuumed, clearly!

[hut-ho78]

@eggbutt

@BigMama1

The criminal trial verdict is completely irrelevant here. The only fact not in dispute is that Lauren got shot and was seriously injured. Everything else - how, by whom, and why - is open for discussion.

This!!! A thousand times THIS!!! What do you bet the amateurs will continue to argue this fact?!

Do you even discuss the case anymore or just anyone who has a differing opinion. I see you are still trying to get the thread shut down.

By the way, I agree with that little snippet that other than LK being shot twice and flatlining twice and scarred for life and that the last known person to have the weapon used in the shooting was MB will be rehashed in court.

[Sdel]

@hut-ho78

By the way, I agree with that little snippet that other than LK being shot twice and flatlining twice and scarred for life and that the last known person to have the weapon used in the shooting was MB will be rehashed in court.

I’m predicting that there will be a lot more in depth discussion of what exactly LK had access to in that office and if anything was possibly tampered with during that access in the civil trial.

I wonder if LK could be heard accessing the office in one of those recordings….

[trubandloki]

@hut-ho78

Do you even discuss the case anymore or just anyone who has a differing opinion. I see you are still trying to get the thread shut down.

Strange thing coming from someone who only appears to tell us how wrong we are.

Legal smart people I have yet another silly question - So that letter that was posted up a bit about extending the date of the contempt hearing that came from Bruce’s office but from a different lawyer - Does that mean that Kirby Kanarek or Jonathan Kanarek hired a different lawyer in the same office to represent them? Or is it not uncommon for some other lawyer in the same office to jump in and send something like that on a case, using their own name, even though they are not the hired lawyer?

[hut-ho78]

@Knights_Mom

Here’s a thought: Maybe it’s not the Barisone Team postponing as clearly there is nothing to gain by it.

But then we must wonder for whom do the numerous delays benefit? One answer comes to mind! It’s the Judge Taylor person and certainly the very black and bruised Prosecutor Schellhorny who probably can’t get over his slam dunk case went OJ in its findings. He probably can’t get past the definite likelihood that Barisone will walk out a free man.

So slimy tricks, “administrative delays” and other Bru ha ha abounds. The easiest check would be to check the court calendar and see if Judge Taylor and Schellhorn were in court adjudicating OTHER cases on the August court date.

I wonder if Google searches would come up with any other allegations of case postponing when it benefits grumpy State prosecutors to do so.

If they are trying to stabilize MB on medication prior to completion of the report or are having to schedule medical tests to see how much the 8-9 concussions he had in his lifetime have affected him or other medical conditions that could have affected him so that can be treated effectively then it would benefit MB. It would be sad to see him held for another time period before the next mandatory review (can’t remember how long-six months, longer?) because they couldn’t get him stable and no lo now a danger to himself or others with a simple fix in time for the hearing.

[trubandloki]

@Sdel

I wonder if LK could be heard accessing the office in one of those recordings….

Oh my, that is an interesting thought.
Was the Ninja smart enough to remove the recordings with the sounds of them breaking in?

[ekat]

@hut-ho78

If they are trying to stabilize MB on medication prior to completion of the report or are having to schedule medical tests to see how much the 8-9 concussions he had in his lifetime have affected him or other medical conditions that could have affected him so that can be treated effectively then it would benefit MB

Oh, but that is so not part of a Krol Initial Assessment. At all. Like, not even a little bit.

@hut-ho78

It would be sad to see him held for another time period before the next mandatory review (can’t remember how long-six months, longer?) because they couldn’t get him stable and no lo now a danger to himself or others with a simple fix in time for the hearing.

As I have stated quite a few times now, 90 days from first hearing to the second, assuming that some level of supervision is ordered.

No need to think sad thoughts since it’s not their job, nor their purpose to stabilize him before they prepare that first report. Just to observe and report.

[Knights_Mom]

@hut-ho78

By the way, I agree with that little snippet that other than LK being shot twice and flatlining twice and scarred for life and that the last known person to have the weapon used in the shooting was MB will be rehashed in court.

MB was also scarred for life.

All she had to do was LEAVE. It was a stable for Pete’s sake, just a stable.

MB could not leave. It was his place. THAT’S what the jury will see. A jury from a relatively affluent County where people on the jury are likely to be predominantly homeowners.

[DownYonder]

@StB.YM

The second paragraph says all parties consent to the request.

Of note to me is that Nagel did not issue that particular filing, but had an underling do it - which makes me wonder if he said something that led said underling to believe that “all parties consented” (when they may not have actually done so).

And I had another thought a little while ago (oh, how the mind wanders when one is flat on her back on a bench at the gym doing flys). Is it possible that Nagel’s earlier “badly written, inaccurate, and overly emotional response to the subpoenas” was intentional? Was he perhaps hoping to get fired by LK?

Or, since the tone of his response regarding the subpoenas no doubt raised eyebrows other than ours, is it possible that the K-Pack requested that another attorney handle things?

Somehow I can’t quite believe that all is hunky-dory in K land regarding their relationship with their attorneys.

[trubandloki]

@DownYonder

And I had another thought a little while ago (oh, how the mind wanders when one is flat on her back on a bench at the gym doing flys). Is it possible that Nagel’s earlier “badly written, inaccurate, and overly emotional response to the subpoenas” was intentional? Was he perhaps hoping to get fired by LK?

It was written the same way Lauren posts everything and anything so I can not see how she would find it upsetting at all. He is truly doing exactly what she likes to happen, if what she typically does is any representation of what she likes.

[Knights_Mom]

@hut-ho78

@Knights_Mom

Here’s a thought: Maybe it’s not the Barisone Team postponing as clearly there is nothing to gain by it.

But then we must wonder for whom do the numerous delays benefit? One answer comes to mind! It’s the Judge Taylor person and certainly the very black and bruised Prosecutor Schellhorny who probably can’t get over his slam dunk case went OJ in its findings. He probably can’t get past the definite likelihood that Barisone will walk out a free man.

So slimy tricks, “administrative delays” and other Bru ha ha abounds. The easiest check would be to check the court calendar and see if Judge Taylor and Schellhorn were in court adjudicating OTHER cases on the August court date.

I wonder if Google searches would come up with any other allegations of case postponing when it benefits grumpy State prosecutors to do so.

If they are trying to stabilize MB on medication prior to completion of the report or are having to schedule medical tests to see how much the 8-9 concussions he had in his lifetime have affected him or other medical conditions that could have affected him so that can be treated effectively then it would benefit MB. It would be sad to see him held for another time period before the next mandatory review (can’t remember how long-six months, longer?) because they couldn’t get him stable and no lo now a danger to himself or others with a simple fix in time for the hearing.

I guess you missed the part where the role of AK is not to treat or stabilize but rather to assess. What you are describing doesn’t happen until AFTER the hearing.

[trubandloki]

It is feeling like I need to find another pair of reading glasses to loan out. @hut-ho78, would you like me to loan you some readers too?

[Knights_Mom]

@trubandloki

It is feeling like I need to find another pair of reading glasses to loan out.

Big ones. By the dozen.

[Sdel]

@DownYonder

Of note to me is that Nagel did not issue that particular filing, but had an underling do it - which makes me wonder if he said something that led said underling to believe that “all parties consented” (when they may not have actually done so).

I had thought that there had to be the opposing attorney’ signature on the filing. That said, I have had opposing council file a “stipulated agreement” with the court, failed to include my name so it couldn’t be searched, and the judge signed it despite my council having emailed the court/filed a complaint on the docket about how they had never even reached out to us about the issue covered in the order…

It cost a bunch of legal fees to have the hearing in order to correct the “mistake”….

[DownYonder]

@Sdel

I wonder if LK could be heard accessing the office in one of those recordings….

Or photos of documents she found in the office. That she possibly (probably?) shared with RG and/or JK by text. No wonder they are doing everything they can to avoid turning over copies of everything.

Perhaps the Chessmaster wannabe is about to meet a Chess Grandmaster.

[lazaret]

@DownYonder

Was he perhaps hoping to get fired by LK?

Probably not. If you wish to no longer represent a client, you can do so and file a notice with the court that you are no longer attorney of record. There is no obligation to continue to represent a client so long as you behave ethically.

[Sdel]

@DownYonder

Or photos of documents she found in the office. That she possibly (probably?) shared with RG and/or JK by text.

Hopefully, for the sake of my theory, there was a photo of the inside of the safe or something that was kept inside it…

[DownYonder]

@Knights_Mom

I guess you missed the part where the role of AK is not to treat or stabilize but rather to assess. What you are describing doesn’t happen until AFTER the hearing.

Sounds like I need to make another flowchart. Sigh…

[DownYonder]

@Sdel

@DownYonder

Of note to me is that Nagel did not issue that particular filing, but had an underling do it - which makes me wonder if he said something that led said underling to believe that “all parties consented” (when they may not have actually done so).

I had thought that there had to be the opposing attorney’ signature on the filing. That said, I have had opposing council file a “stipulated agreement” with the court, failed to include my name so it couldn’t be searched, and the judge signed it despite my council having emailed the court/filed a complaint on the docket about how they had never even reached out to us about the issue covered in the order…

Hmmm, so if in fact all parties had NOT consented to the request for a rescheduling, then perhaps it was by design that Nagel/O’Conner indicated there was agreement on all sides. IOW, another delaying tactic.