MB update

[Knights_Mom]

@CurrentlyHorseless

@Warmblood1

@CurrentlyHorseless

Here’s why it’s relevant: If MB had cash flow problems and was having trouble covering costs, it explains why he would not ask her to leave before he had a replacement, higher paying client more amenable to MHG.

Why is this so difficult for you? He wanted LK to leave. Everyone wanted LK to leave. LK was not bringing in reasonable profit and she was driving away business. He wanted her GONE. She refused to leave. Has nothing to do with this alleged cash flash problem you like to make up.

MHG wanted her gone.

MB told MHG that he would scare and harass her into “begging to leave”, but there is no evidence he asked LK to leave prior to Aug 5.

There is no evidence he didn’t ask except for the words of a liar.

Also, it is abnormal to stay where you are not wanted and where you supposedly are not happy being.

[CurrentlyHorseless]

@ekat

@CurrentlyHorseless

John Hinckley was found NGRI and was institutionalized for over thirty years. BTW, it was just this past June that the restrictions of his conditional release were finally lifted.

Michael Barisone: diagnosed with depressive disorder and suffering from delusions back in Aug 2019.

John Hinckley: diagnosed with narcissistic personality disorder, schizoid personality disorder, borderline personality disorder, passive aggressive features and major depressive disorders.

Comparing the two is not comparable.

Only in that both were acquitted as NGRI.

[Warmblood1]

@Knights_Mom

So many flimsy things you cling to!!

Seriously. Imagine clinging to this same sad, illogical narrative, day in, day out. I’d get a hobby.

[trubandloki]

@CurrentlyHorseless

Here’s why it’s relevant: If MB had cash flow problems and was having trouble covering costs, it explains why he would not ask her to leave before he had a replacement, higher paying client more amenable to MHG.

Interesting logic.

Let me think about this and pretend I have a training/boarding barn.

My choices are:

No client in those stalls which means no expenses related to their horses, not having to deal with their drama and not having to try to make my other clients stay in the face of an over the top client that is scaring everyone. While the stalls are empty I can get life back to normal, sleep, train, give clinics and probably find a new client in no time.

Or

Keep the client that is paying under market value to start with but keeps adding more horses so in the end it is actually costing me more money than they are paying me. Ignoring that negative cash flow thing this client is also scaring away my other good paying clients and making it such that I am not sleeping so it limits my ability to earn additional money by teaching and doing clinics.

[Knights_Mom]

@CurrentlyHorseless

@Knights_Mom

@CurrentlyHorseless

They’re both acquittals,

Read the above. THEY ARE BOTH ACQUITTALS.

Read the above? I wrote the above. NG and NGRI are two very different types of acquittal.

Still acquittals. You do know the meaning of the word, yes?

[CurrentlyHorseless]

@ekat

@CurrentlyHorseless

He was found to have been not criminally responsible for having committed a violent act.

No. He was not. He was found NOT GUILTY. BECAUSE NO CRIME WAS COMMITTED.

Stop comparing him to Hinckley. They aren’t even close to the same, and it’s offensive.

It was found that “he shot her” (well, proven beyond a reasonable doubt). That’s a violent act.

It was not a crime, though, due to lack of intent.

[Knights_Mom]

@CurrentlyHorseless

@ekat

@CurrentlyHorseless

He was found to have been not criminally responsible for having committed a violent act.

No. He was not. He was found NOT GUILTY. BECAUSE NO CRIME WAS COMMITTED.

Stop comparing him to Hinckley. They aren’t even close to the same, and it’s offensive.

It was found that “he shot her” (well, proven beyond a reasonable doubt). That’s a violent act.

It was not a crime, though, due to lack of intent.

If there is no crime he can’t be found guilty of a crime.

[CurrentlyHorseless]

@Knights_Mom

@CurrentlyHorseless

@Warmblood1

@CurrentlyHorseless

Here’s why it’s relevant: If MB had cash flow problems and was having trouble covering costs, it explains why he would not ask her to leave before he had a replacement, higher paying client more amenable to MHG.

Why is this so difficult for you? He wanted LK to leave. Everyone wanted LK to leave. LK was not bringing in reasonable profit and she was driving away business. He wanted her GONE. She refused to leave. Has nothing to do with this alleged cash flash problem you like to make up.

MHG wanted her gone.

MB told MHG that he would scare and harass her into “begging to leave”, but there is no evidence he asked LK to leave prior to Aug 5.

There is no evidence he didn’t ask except for the words of a liar.

Also, it is abnormal to stay where you are not wanted and where you supposedly are not happy being.

What would “evidence he didn’t ask her to leave” look like?

[CurrentlyHorseless]

@Knights_Mom

@CurrentlyHorseless

@ekat

@CurrentlyHorseless

He was found to have been not criminally responsible for having committed a violent act.

No. He was not. He was found NOT GUILTY. BECAUSE NO CRIME WAS COMMITTED.

Stop comparing him to Hinckley. They aren’t even close to the same, and it’s offensive.

It was found that “he shot her” (well, proven beyond a reasonable doubt). That’s a violent act.

It was not a crime, though, due to lack of intent.

If there is no crime he can’t be found guilty of a crime.

I agree, he was not found guilty of committing a crime. Due to the RI part, he was not found to have criminal intent.

[MorganSercu]

Thanks to the Keystone Kops, there is no forensic evidence he fired a gun at all.

[CurrentlyHorseless]

@Knights_Mom

@CurrentlyHorseless

@Knights_Mom

@CurrentlyHorseless

They’re both acquittals,

Read the above. THEY ARE BOTH ACQUITTALS.

Read the above? I wrote the above. NG and NGRI are two very different types of acquittal.

Still acquittals. You do know the meaning of the word, yes?

Indeed. I agree he was acquitted. So was John Hinckley.

[eggbutt]

@CurrentlyHorseless

What would “evidence he didn’t ask her to leave” look like?

Question - how does calling the Building Inspector, USEF/SS, Fire Marshall, FINISH THE BASTARD okay in your mind? What in the hell did she expect the outcome to be? What was her goal - in your mind?

[Davignport]

For the love of all that is holy, everyone please STOP replying to CH. There is no reason to keep going around and around with this person. Since they will not give it a rest, we all need to.

[Warmblood1]

@CurrentlyHorseless

What would “evidence he didn’t ask her to leave” look like?

It wouldn’t look like anything, there is no evidence he didn’t ask her to leave - there is only evidence that he did ask her to leave. You choose to ignore it. There is testimony stating Mb’s lawyer and JK were working together to remove LK off the property weeks prior to the written eviction. There was even a facility in established for her to go to. She refused to go.

[Angela_Freda]

@Warmblood1

I guess we are back to ignoring all negotiations between MB’s lawyer and JK on getting LK off the property weeks prior

I guess the particular person’s own father negotiating a place for her to go has no bearing on the idea that she had been informed she was asked to leave.
Why meet with ED then?

It’s so ridiculous.

[Warmblood1]

@Davignport

For the love of all that is holy, everyone please STOP replying to CH. There is no reason to keep going around and around with this person. Since they will not give it a rest, we all need to.

True. It is boring and just sad at this point.

[Warmblood1]

I’m am really, really looking forward to MB sharing his side of the story one day. I can only imagine the incidents and behavior we haven’t been told about. Actual bombshells.

[trubandloki]

@Angela_Freda

Why meet with ED then?

What? You do not randomly have appointments with lawyers about nothing-ness just because that might a fun way to spend a couple of hours and a few hundred dollars? [ /sarcasm ]

[Warmblood1]

Be sure you record said meeting with lawyer, well, because, you know… SOP…

[trubandloki]

@Warmblood1

Be sure you record said meeting with lawyer, well, because, you know… SOP…

Well yes, of course! You mean you do not record all conversations in life? Geez, and to think some people here act like that is a normal way to do things.