MB update

[ekat]

@trubandloki

Well yes, of course! You mean you do not record all conversations in life? Geez, and to think some people here act like that is a normal way to do things.

Well, in fairness, this seems to be just one more thing RG has to do to earn his pay.

[trubandloki]

@ekat

Well, in fairness, this seems to be just one more thing RG has to do to earn his pay.

Interesting point. I had not thought about it that way. You could be very right!

[CurrentlyHorseless]

@Warmblood1

@CurrentlyHorseless

What would “evidence he didn’t ask her to leave” look like?

It wouldn’t look like anything, there is no evidence he didn’t ask her to leave - there is only evidence that he did ask her to leave. You choose to ignore it. There is testimony stating Mb’s lawyer and JK were working together to remove LK off the property weeks prior to the written eviction. There was even a facility in established for her to go to. She refused to go.

That’s evidence that she was in the process of arranging to leave - because she didn’t like being shunted to the assistant trainer, knew MHG hated her, knew he was harassing her, etc. The fact that she was in the process of arranging a move does not mean that MB asked her to leave prior to Aug 5. Also there’s the text of MHG on Aug 3 saying to MB they had not asked her to leave.

Having been told to leave of Aug 5, she declined to leave by Aug 7. If MB had not shot her on Aug 7, we’ll never know if she would have peacefully moved out on Aug 10 of Aug 11.

[Sdel]

@CurrentlyHorseless

So then why didn’t he clearly ask her to leave July 1 with 30 days notice, fill her stalls with higher paying clients and give two clinics in the month of July?

Because he negotiated with her custodian for her to leave. He even found a whole other barn for her to go to.

[CurrentlyHorseless]

@Sdel

@CurrentlyHorseless

So then why didn’t he clearly ask her to leave July 1 with 30 days notice, fill her stalls with higher paying clients and give two clinics in the month of July?

Because he negotiated with her custodian for her to leave. He even found a whole other barn for her to go to.

Exactly. It’s a tragedy be shot her before the negotiations already underway could be completed peacefully.

[EADoug]

@CurrentlyHorseless

peacefully

[Angela_Freda]

@trubandloki

What? You do not randomly have appointments with lawyers about nothing-ness just because that might a fun way to spend a couple of hours and a few hundred dollars? [ /sarcasm ]

I also wouldn’t record a meeting about a relocation I hadn’t been asked to make.

[ekat]

@CurrentlyHorseless

Exactly. It’s a tragedy be shot her before the negotiations already underway could be completed peacefully

The tragedy is she declined the negotiated solution and instead called SS, who called CPS, sent her employee to the fire Marshall’s and building inspectors, and continued to post what she called, under oath in court, threats on FB.

[Angela_Freda]

@CurrentlyHorseless

That’s evidence that she was in the process of arranging to leave - because she didn’t like being shunted to the assistant trainer, knew MHG hated her, knew he was harassing her, etc. The fact that she was in the process of arranging a move does not mean that MB asked her to leave prior to Aug 5. Also there’s the text of MHG on Aug 3 saying to MB they had not asked her to leave.

So why was MB representative involved if she was simply leaving?

[Sdel]

@Knights_Mom

Maybe he did. With someone like LK the game is deny deny deny. Maybe repeated verbal requests were ignored.

And if you don’t deny…completely misrepresent what was said or done.

[ekat]

@Angela_Freda

So why was MB representative involved if she was simply leaving?

And if you’re that unhappy, why do you need Dad, and later an attorney, to negotiate an exit?

[Maria]

I do realize that a lot of you “really” “really” are trying so very hard to educate. But at some point you need to cut bait. There are a couple here who seem to think that repeating something over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over

again, over and over and over again is going to make what they say true. ehhhhhh NOPE You can site case law, you can site General Statues you can quote rules of civil procedure you can quote NJ statues ad nauseum it will not make a difference.

I have this mental image that some of you wiser folks here have giant black and blue marks on your foreheads and dents in your walls and will be soon running around crazily pulling your hair out due to your frustration. It’s a cartoon image, because, I’m like 12 mentally and dead according to others.

[StB.YM]

She said on an earlier COTH thread, that if she had been given notice to leave earlier, that she would have gotten a lawyer involved earlier. That tells me she had no intention to leave peacefully.

[Sdel]

@trubandloki

No client in those stalls which means no expenses related to their horses, not having to deal with their drama and not having to try to make my other clients stay in the face of an over the top client that is scaring everyone. While the stalls are empty I can get life back to normal, sleep, train, give clinics and probably find a new client in no time.

I’m sure Barisone kept a waiting list. The stall would have had an occupant as soon as it was cleaned.

[cutter99]

@CurrentlyHorseless

@Sdel

@CurrentlyHorseless

So then why didn’t he clearly ask her to leave July 1 with 30 days notice, fill her stalls with higher paying clients and give two clinics in the month of July?

Because he negotiated with her custodian for her to leave. He even found a whole other barn for her to go to.

Exactly. It’s a tragedy be shot her before the negotiations already underway could be completed peacefully.

Do you interpret the phrase “FINISH THE BASTARD” as peaceful???

[Sdel]

@CurrentlyHorseless

Exactly. It’s a tragedy be shot her before the negotiations already underway could be completed peacefully.

Maybe she should have left the gun in the safe then. I’m convinced she and RG pulled it on MB, not the other way around.

[ekat]

@cutter99

Do you interpret the phrase “FINISH THE BASTARD” as peaceful???

Mr B: Did you want the bastard finished?

LK: (under oath): Yes.

Yep, that’s a plan to peacefully exit.

[SillyHorse]

@Maria

I do realize that a lot of you “really” “really” are trying so very hard to educate. But at some point you need to cut bait. There are a couple here who seem to think that repeating something over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over

again, over and over and over again is going to make what they say true. ehhhhhh NOPE You can site case law, you can site General Statues you can quote rules of civil procedure you can quote NJ statues ad nauseum it will not make a difference.

I have this mental image that some of you wiser folks here have giant black and blue marks on your foreheads and dents in your walls and will be soon running around crazily pulling your hair out due to your frustration. It’s a cartoon image, because, I’m like 12 mentally and dead according to others.

And some of us have those metaphorical black and blue marks on our foreheads, dents in our walls and, yes, bald spots from frustration due to repeatedly imploring people to stop responding to those ones you mention.

[trubandloki]

@ekat

@Angela_Freda

So why was MB representative involved if she was simply leaving?

And if you’re that unhappy, why do you need Dad, and later an attorney, to negotiate an exit?

Right, can’t she just be like everyone else in the world and post a thread on COTH asking how to give notice and then just leave?

[hut-ho78]

@Warmblood1

@hut-ho78

There are two acts of commitment. One is bureaucratic, to release him from jail and into the institution and the other is the formal commitment after the Krol hearing. Someone explained that very well on these threads.

There is no such thing as “bureaucratic commitment.” Again, he is being evaluated, he has yet to be committed and it has been specifically stated that the evaluation is not punitive. This has already been established multiple times in this thread.

Incorrect. What the judge signed to put him in AK was an administrative commitment.