MB update

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@Sdel

@CurrentlyHorseless

@Sdel

@CurrentlyHorseless

@Sdel

@CurrentlyHorseless

That there was no literal “paper trail”? Paper checks, to the extent they’re used at all, are usually scanned and destroyed.

LK was asked to provide documents of rent payments in her first set of interrogatories. Her answer seemed to be unsure that there were documents to provide….

“maybe her dad had cancelled checks”…

She answered that “maybe her dad had cancelled checks”? I seriously doubt he would have literal, old fashioned, canceled paper checks. He would undoubtedly have electronic records of the payments, or could get them from the bank. Likewise, MB would have, or could obtain, electronic records of having received payment.

Then surely the interrogatory response would have indicated such records. That was the specific question being asked: what evidence do you have that you were a legal, paying tenant. We are talking about discovery in the civil trial that had to be compelled to get LK to answer.

Are you suggesting that LK was lying or being evasive under oath?

Re bolded. No, I’m not suggesting that.

Then why are you asserting that she didn’t mean what she said?

Because @CurrentlyHorseless has stated she did not watch the trial.

[Knights_Mom]

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[Sdel]

@cutter99

Because @CurrentlyHorseless has stated she did not watch the trial.

Well, since this trial hasn’t happened yet, that would be kind of hard to do…

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@CurrentlyHorseless

@Knights_Mom

@CurrentlyHorseless

@BigMama1

@CurrentlyHorseless

That there’s no evidence that MB actually asked her to leave prior to Aug 5?

This point alone has been proven wrong over and over and over again. Dozens of people have taken the time to explain how and why. So why do you cling to this false narrative?

Because I don’t think it’s “a false narrative.”

What is the actual evidence that he asked her to leave prior to Aug 5?

Her father was negotiating an exit strategy with MBs attorney.

In normal boarding situations when a boarder wants to leave a facility they give 30 days notice and then they just GO. There is no need for attorneys. This is prima facie evidence she was asked to leave.

Any other claim by you is at the very least, disingenuous.

If her father was negotiating the terms of her exit, it’s evidence that she was in the process of leaving.

She may have decided to leave for all the reasons you (g) keep talking about. MHG hated her; she was being shunted to the assistant trainer, she understood MB would need to prioritize his girlfriend over a client.

LK understood absolutely nothing.

In addition to not watching the trial, have you not read her manifesto???

You might want to catch up!!!

[Sdel]

@cutter99

In addition to not watching the trial, have you not read her manifesto???

You might want to catch up!!!

Do I need to find it again?

[Virginia_Horse_Mom]

@hut-ho78

Looking at it another way, a actual acquittal would be LK’s arrests with no conviction and no determination any act she was ever arrested for was ever committed whereas in MB’s case, he actually committed the act and at that moment was a danger to himself or others, it just wasn’t a crime because he was delusional at the time, hence the administrative involuntary commitment to AK for a Krol evaluation with the potential for further commitment, conditional release or full release.

Uhhhh… I thought a tire was shot out on RGs bike, someone was assaulted in a bar in NC, and personal property was stolen.

Are you saying none of those things happened, and the police have REPEATEDLY just come up with false reasons to accuse LK of stuff and harass and arrest her? Or… are you pointing to the fact that she had effective legal representation who negotiated advantageous deals for her, and concluding that is the same thing as having a clean criminal record?

[CurrentlyHorseless]

@cutter99

@CurrentlyHorseless

@Virginia_Horse_Mom

@CurrentlyHorseless

I am not an Amber Heard supporter.

I am an empathetic person, and dislike the bashing and tormenting of a gunshot victim. Even if the gunshot victim is a flawed person with baggage.

What turned you off about Amber Heard? Did you watch much of that trial? Not find her a credible witness?

Bluntly, I thought AH came off as a narcissist and a liar. BUT… I am admittedly prone to concluding that about certain people…

I did not watch the trial, only read about it in the news.

So you couldn’t be bothered to watch the trial, but you can be bothered to post nonsensically about how LK is right???

Okay, thanks for playing along!

I chose not to watch the Amber Heard trial, that’s correct. I chose to read some of the news coverage of it.

Your outrage that I might choose whether or not to watch the Amber Heard trial is amusing.

[Knights_Mom]

@hut-ho78

@Knights_Mom

This article is VERY interesting as it documents Suboxone users telling of extreme violent thoughts and feelings.

https://www.narconon.org/blog/drug-addiction/dangerous-side-effects-connected-with-suboxone/

And yet she shot no one and is actually the shooting victim.

She got shot. That’s all that is known for sure.

I still believe she jumped MB.

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Please edify @CurrentlyHorseless @Sdel!

She cannot seem to do it for herself, so maybe you can help her out!

[hut-ho78]

@KurPlexed

@hut-ho78

And she was looking in the same area and had not yet decided on a facility either.

I’m not sure everyone here realizes just how many great international level trainers/judges are in that area. It’s a hot spot.

Maybe that is why it is so hard to choose. Sounds like a great area to train.

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@Virginia_Horse_Mom

Are you saying none of those things happened, and the police have REPEATEDLY just come up with false reasons to accuse LK of stuff and harass and arrest her?

And didn’t someone pay a pretty decent chunk of change for bail on one of these arrests?

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@CurrentlyHorseless

I did not watch the trial, only read about it in the news.

Wow! I didn’t see this one coming from the total authoritarian of all things proving LK’s victimhood. At this point until you watch the trial you have no right to take anyone’s time here defending what is unknown to you. No words…

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@hut-ho78

Well. Perhaps. NGRI seems fairly rare so it seems that NGRI would almost have to be looked at in regards to the others. For example, Hinckley’s 30 years of institution commitment before being deemed no longer a danger to himself of others.

I have no idea what you are saying in your first paragraph here. This is nonsensical. Even if you choose to disregard the more lenient standard Hinckley was found NGRI under, in an entirely different court system, you simply cannot compare anything about Hinckley to Michael Barisone. They aren’t comparable any more than you can compare Michael Barisone to Andrea Yates.

If you’re trying to imply that Michael Barisone is going to spend 30+ years in Ann Klein because Hinckley spent 30+ years, I disagree with that premise as well.

Phrase it however you want, Michael Barisone is an acquittee. Because he’s been acquitted. Fortunately, the law doesn’t look at it the way you do.

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So you did watch the Barisone trial?

[Knights_Mom]

@CurrentlyHorseless

@Knights_Mom

@CurrentlyHorseless

@BigMama1

@CurrentlyHorseless

That there’s no evidence that MB actually asked her to leave prior to Aug 5?

This point alone has been proven wrong over and over and over again. Dozens of people have taken the time to explain how and why. So why do you cling to this false narrative?

Because I don’t think it’s “a false narrative.”

What is the actual evidence that he asked her to leave prior to Aug 5?

Her father was negotiating an exit strategy with MBs attorney.

In normal boarding situations when a boarder wants to leave a facility they give 30 days notice and then they just GO. There is no need for attorneys. This is prima facie evidence she was asked to leave.

Any other claim by you is at the very least, disingenuous.

If her father was negotiating the terms of her exit, it’s evidence that she was in the process of leaving.

She may have decided to leave for all the reasons you (g) keep talking about. MHG hated her; she was being shunted to the assistant trainer, she understood MB would need to prioritize his girlfriend over a client.

Are you serious? You do realize that we are mostly ALL horse people here and I can assure you that not one of us has had to bring in a lawyer as a boarder to leave one barn and go to another!!

Do you have ANY IDEA how profoundly absurd, ridiculous and questionable this statement is? Do you think we are that gullible? In fact I think you owe us all an apology for your thinking we are that dumb!!

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@Knights_Mom

My question to you is why you so vehemently cling to the notion that MB was an “active shooter” when the ONLY evidence showing that is the word of 2 drug addicts, one of whom admits lying and lied on the stand and along with her paramour were thoroughly discredited in court?

Active shooter…with an empty gun…that RG testified he knew it was jammed and not working…so he beat Michael almost to death, until LK said they needed him alive. Seems proportional.

[hut-ho78]

@ekat

@Sdel

Maybe for camera installs or recordings?

It’s going to be interesting what those texts Mr B kept getting shot down on reveal, isn’t it?

It will also be interesting to see if her civil lawyer gets down in the dirt with comments like “get rid of her” and “lifetime ban her from all FEI competition” and making her so miserable she “would want to leave” and he “ knows how and is good at it.”

They should settle this. She may feel that now she has an attorney to fight for her instead of one that represents the state, not the victim. I don’t know.

[CurrentlyHorseless]

@cutter99

@Sdel

@CurrentlyHorseless

@Sdel

@CurrentlyHorseless

@Sdel

@CurrentlyHorseless

That there was no literal “paper trail”? Paper checks, to the extent they’re used at all, are usually scanned and destroyed.

LK was asked to provide documents of rent payments in her first set of interrogatories. Her answer seemed to be unsure that there were documents to provide….

“maybe her dad had cancelled checks”…

She answered that “maybe her dad had cancelled checks”? I seriously doubt he would have literal, old fashioned, canceled paper checks. He would undoubtedly have electronic records of the payments, or could get them from the bank. Likewise, MB would have, or could obtain, electronic records of having received payment.

Then surely the interrogatory response would have indicated such records. That was the specific question being asked: what evidence do you have that you were a legal, paying tenant. We are talking about discovery in the civil trial that had to be compelled to get LK to answer.

Are you suggesting that LK was lying or being evasive under oath?

Re bolded. No, I’m not suggesting that.

Then why are you asserting that she didn’t mean what she said?

Because @CurrentlyHorseless has stated she did not watch the trial.

I said I did not watch the Amber Heard trial.

I watched the Barisone trial.

[KurPlexed]

She didn’t watch the Depp Heard trial.

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@cutter99

@Graymaresrule

Watching the trial I thought the mouth stuff was drug related, not due to being intubated

I know plenty of people, who have been intubated much longer due to COVID, and none have had issues with their mouths, specifically their teeth.

My bet would be drugs as well.

I thought it was just tension and teeth grinding from PTSD and the stress of the trial.