MB update

It’s pretty weird. People post about MB installing alarm systems, having noisy alert dogs, TROs, training/riding/giving clinics, possibly showing someday, but no one has suggested he interact with the other parties.

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Speaking of dogs… in case anyone is interested in a dog for personal protection, look into a well bred cane corso. From the wrong breeder, they can be unstable and dangerous. They are naturally stubborn (it’s a mastiff thing) and not for the faint of heart. But the corso is hardwired to protect, is large enough to tackle a person or handle multiple dogs, and is an excellent family dog. Of all the working lines I’ve worked with, the corso is king. They will protect you, your home and your property with their life.

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Nope. It would be awesome if the other parties would drop their lawsuit so everyone can disengage.

But… she apparently doesn’t want to drop her lawsuit. She apparently thinks she is going to “win,” so wants to keep on fighting.

It’s her right to pursue civil litigation, if that is what she wants to do. But… it’s very strange that this is the objective reality of where the current situation stands, and some people are still accusing MB of instigating and perpetuating a “war.”

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Plus they look super intimidating! Even though the ones I know are total snuggle bugs

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Interesting. Thanks for sharing that.

I had a Doberman and giant Airedale cross years ago. He was a special dog. Definitely favored the Airedale side. I’d like to own another one someday, maybe pursue a purebred Airedale from a good breeder. They are just… unique souls.

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A supposedly brilliant man who no one apparently knew the extent of his mental illness, except his wife. He successfully worked in his career field for many years. One day (he said) he was under the paranoid delusion that his wife and his employer were conspiring to kill him. So he brutally stabbed his wife to death, numerous times in the chest, their young daughter escaped to a neighbor’s house. He then called police, admitted he did it but was insane at the time. He spent little time in custody or committed. And then objected to being committed to a forensic hospital and conditional release. Hence the Krol ruling. Had his wife lived through the stabbing, she might have objected to him being released so quickly.

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In my next dog owning life, if I can find a well-bred one, that is my dream dog.

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I use to train dogs and specialized in working lines and aggression issues. This corso was surrendered to me and was a heck of a case to rehabilitate but he’s turned out to be a wonderful dog.

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:heart: I love him.

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No. He was hospitalized at least twice in the months before his schizophrenia took complete control. The neighbors knew about it before the incident too. His wife told others she thought he was improving until very shortly before the incident. So while shocking and frightening, it didn’t come out of nowhere.

Schizophrenia is very different than what MB was ever diagnosed with and as someone WAS out to destroy him, his paranoia wasn’t entirely misplaced.

Also, MB achieved amazing things despite his issues. Unlike his harassers whose only noteworthy “accomplishment” was to knowingly set out to utterly destroy his peace of mind and life.

ETA: 8 stab wounds is 8 too many, but hardly “numerous”. Schizophrenia can be utterly heartbreaking and those who are diagnosed with it are FAR more likely to be the victims of crimes, not the perpetrators. But too many people don’t like to think about the fact that vulnerable people are preyed upon more often than not.

Someone take my keyboard away - here is the 1991 obituary of the attorney who represented Stefan Krol in 1969:

RICHARD C. SCHRAMM

Lawyer

Richard C. Schramm, 50, a partner in the Washington law firm Dickstein, Shapiro & Morin and a specialist on antitrust and regulatory matters, died of cancer Oct. 10 at his home in Washington.

Mr. Schramm was a former Bell System attorney, and he was a lead counsel for American Telephone and Telegraph Co. in the government antitrust suit that was settled in 1984 by a consent decree requiring AT&T to divest its local telephone operations to the independent “Baby Bells.”

Later, as a partner of Dickstein, Shapiro & Morin, Mr. Schramm played a role in the successful effort of the Baby Bells to be relieved of the consent decree’s prohibition against their providing information services to businesses and consumers.

A native of Camden, N.J., Mr. Schramm graduated from St. Joseph’s College in Philadelphia and the Rutgers University law school. In 1965, he went to work for a law firm in Newark. In 1972, he joined New Jersey Bell, and in 1975, he went to work at AT&T headquarters in New York.

In 1983, Mr. Schramm moved to Washington and became vice president and general counsel of the Chesapeake & Potomac Telephone Co. In 1984, the year AT&T was broken up, he became vice president and associate general counsel of Bell Atlantic Network Services Inc. In 1987, he joined Dickstein, Shapiro & Morin.

His marriages to Lacey Schramm and Agnes Schramm ended in divorce.

Survivors include his wife, the former Patricia E. Koch of Washington; three children from his first marriage, Lacey Schramm of Washington, Aileen Friedlander of Phoenix and Kirsten Schramm of Cherry Hill, N.J.; his mother, Ethel Schramm of McLean; and two grandchildren.

KROL, ROSEMARY was born 14 April 1930, received Social Security number 135-44-2814 (indicating New Jersey) and, Death Master File says, died August 1969

KROL, STEFAN was born 28 August 1919, received Social Security number 141-34-2986 (indicating New Jersey) and, Death Master File says, died February 1976

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I have found that the corso is more consistently hardwired to protect than say the shepherd or dobie, etc. Their size and jaw strength separates them from the others.

Unique souls reminds me of the Weimaraner. The best dog I’ve ever had was a weim. I lost him a few years ago and just the thought of him still makes me cry. Just an absolute saint of a dog.

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Food for thought for today -

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Awwww. He’s gorgeous. Sorry for your loss, but thanks for sharing a photo of him .

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That’s brilliant.

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[quote=“SierraMist, post:488, topic:774547”]
Had his wife lived through the stabbing,
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…The whole case would have had a completely different complexion, so it’s not worth much to speculate on it.

Edited to add that in the early 70s he wouldn’t have to pretend to be insane to get off, just hide the body and be all “I dunno, she just up and left after our argument” cops would have been like “chicks, I swear” and left, shaking their heads.

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Chessies take their family and jobs seriously too. If it wasn’t Florida, I would suggest a Norwegian Elkhound.

The problem with Cane Corsos is the insurance liability that often accompanies them. They are big, strong dogs. Many insurance companies worry about dogs in general and dogs over 55 pounds a lot, any dog over 75 pounds EVEN MORE SO.

And that is NOT me slamming any breed in particular. Mass matters.

My dearly departed 95 pibble was a big softie. But his size earned him some nervous glances. Current dog is 80 pounds (we got him at a shelter and he tipped the scales at 50 pounds - good food, lots of exercise and a year layer - SURPRISE!). He carries it well though. He’s a goof. But that big boy bark carries far & wide. No one enters or leaves unannounced.

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Pills and a couple months of therapy are not enough for ME to handle all the stresses of normal life. That’s why I have a great support system, wine, horses and dogs.

I am not a danger to others. I am only a danger to myself if I am 1.) overmounted and 2.) lacking in friends, wine, horses and dogs.

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I have intimate knowledge of the cane corse and protection dogs. The cane corse is not an ideal protection dog. They often lack confidence, despite their appearance, which has led to many bad situations. They are also very often bred too large to endure a true attack from a predator human.

The best bang for your buck when it comes to personal protection dogs are the Malinois however I would never recommend them to your average owner.

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That’s a decision she made. Nobody is forcing her to continue down this destructive path. She seems to thrive on the attention and the drama, and as long as she continues to poke and prod and engage, she is refusing to get on with her life. All she had to do was walk away, go back to her riding and ignore all this. She refuses. And that is nobody’s fault but her own.

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Only if you waste time reading it in the first place. Much less believing it.

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