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[MHM]

@Angela_Freda

@Virginia_Horse_Mom

To quite a lot of people, these sorts of details are actually a pretty big deal. If you never finished boot camp, or you got something other than an honorable discharge of the military… you just shouldn’t talk about your military service history. Period.

Or if you did complete it, and therefore DO know something about guns…

Didn’t he claim at the trial that he knew nothing about guns?

But also claimed that he recognized the gun was empty or jammed or otherwise not a danger at some point?

[evtrmom]

I found his testimony to be very hard to follow. So. Many. Contradictions.

[SuzieQNutter]

@eggbutt

Oh illustrious leader, may I submit to you a part of our uniform.

We can wear this under our bathrobes.

On the front is REST LATER, as even though in bathrobes we all work hard looking after furbabies.

On the back, and I did not see this when I bought it, from the local OpShop. No I do not know fashion. I do not like fashion. I do not want to know what it actually means.

That is my pinkie nail next to it to show you how tiny it actually is.

[Angela_Freda]

@McGurk

This is also what I have wondered.

That the NGRI was a compromise verdict to avoid a hung jury.

Would this ever be expressed to anyone, the judge? or its for the jury to decide, no explanation needed?

[Angela_Freda]

On grilled garlic bread, with mushroom gravy?

[Angela_Freda]

@DownYonder

I hope that is the case but given LK’s complete obsession with self-aggrandizement, it would not surprise me one bit if she REFUSES to drop her lawsuit. She has proven time and again that she doesn’t take sound legal advice if it doesn’t agree with her - ahem, agenda

If her parents pay her lawyers, does she have a choice?

[chestnutmarebeware]

@Fiesta01

@chestnutmarebeware

(We didn’t shoot the fox—he clearly wasn’t the chicken killer.)

I haven’t caught up with thread yet, but the suspense is killing me. Did you ever figure out what was killing the chickens?

We never found an opening big enough for a possum or raccoon, and I never saw rats, so we finally decided it must have been a weasel. We ended up basically wrapping the entire coop and exercise yard top to bottom with new hardware cloth and that solved the problem.

[Sdel]

@chestnutmarebeware

We never found an opening big enough for a possum or raccoon, and I never saw rats, so we finally decided it must have been a weasel. We ended up basically wrapping the entire coop and exercise yard top to bottom with new hardware cloth and that solved the problem.

So…it’s an unsolved cold case involving a serial killer……

[chestnutmarebeware]

@Sdel

@chestnutmarebeware

We never found an opening big enough for a possum or raccoon, and I never saw rats, so we finally decided it must have been a weasel. We ended up basically wrapping the entire coop and exercise yard top to bottom with new hardware cloth and that solved the problem.

So…it’s an unsolved cold case involving a serial killer……

And it was a particularly heinous series of crimes—the victims were all found missing their heads!

Maybe 48 Hours would be interested in this storyline…

[McGurk]

The weasel is the prime suspect, his MO matches the crime scene perfectly.

And hardware cloth stopped the attacks…

Though if I was the weasel’s defense attorney, I would want to know the whereabouts of all the black snakes on the night in question.

PS - Because black snakes were the culprit in a lot of unexplained chicken deaths at my house last summer; but of course, prior bad acts are not admissable…

[Knights_Mom]

@McGurk

This is also what I have wondered.

That the NGRI was a compromise verdict to avoid a hung jury.

I’ve said this since the verdict.

[ekat]

That sounds very good indeed! That might slide past an indictment. I need more information though.

[Virginia_Horse_Mom]

@Warmblood1

Mr. B presented RG with the question of whether or not RG was a Marine. Mr. B had some sort of information to indicate he was. RG stated he was a Marine. Now whether that means recruit vs. Marine, I can’t say for sure. RG would know the difference. I would think RG would state he hadn’t graduated boot camp because that would lend further to RG not having weapons knowledge.

And on a side note, I really love that people believe Marines to be honorable, admirable people and that someone criminal or questionable couldn’t possibly be one. But I can safely tell you that there are bad eggs in the Marine Corps, same for every branch. My husband was a criminal investigator in the Marines. He investigated the crimes of Marines under the UCMJ. There are bad eggs but they do not usually last long.

So this is a great post, and I want to follow up on it a little more, as well as respond to a few comments that have happened since this post, about the relevance of RGs possible service record.

I seem to recollect that both Mr. B and Schellhorn mentioned his service. Mr. B brought it up relative to RG posessing knowledge about weapons. But I SEEM to recollect it came up on direct with Schellhorn in terms of how RG applied a chokehold to MB, and effectively subdued him.

The part that agitated me was the impression that it seemed like Schellhorn tried to develop for the jury with respect to RG when he had him on the stand. An impression was crafted that RG was a bit of a hero, with a background of military service, who jumped into harms way when it counted and saved LKs life.

THAT irritated me. Because I (and many other posters) seriously question if the guy ever made it through boot camp, and even if he did… if he was processed out shortly thereafter. As you have pointed out, Warmblood1, there certainly are plenty of criminals who find their way into the military, and later get investigated for criminal behavior and kicked out. @LexInVA has pointed out that RG has a very long rap sheet, and has a history with drugs dating back to his teenage years. With plenty of associated arrests. I think it’s a safe guess that IF he made it through bootcamp, his lifelong drug problems got identified pretty soon thereafter…

It rankled me that they tried to give the impression that he was some sort of hero at trial, and sidestep any extra questions about his service. It’s relevant. I think it’s more accurate to think about RG as a career criminal, who very possibly rushed at MB first, and proceeded with a criminal assault…

[ekat]

@McGurk

I found it odd that the prosecution wanted to make the lifestyle/bad life choices clear to us as if that somehow mitigated the beat down.

It is very odd. That would make me uncomfortable to say the least.

[ekat]

@Virginia_Horse_Mom

It rankled me that they tried to give the impression that he was some sort of hero at trial, and sidestep any extra questions about his service. It’s relevant. I think it’s more accurate to think about RG as a career criminal, who very possibly rushed at MB first, and proceeded with a criminal assault…

Too bad his deposition won’t be televised, because that would be absolutely fascinating to watch.

[Virginia_Horse_Mom]

@ekat

@McGurk

I found it odd that the prosecution wanted to make the lifestyle/bad life choices clear to us as if that somehow mitigated the beat down.

It is very odd. That would make me uncomfortable to say the least.

Could the prosecutor possibly have been trying to influence the Grabd Jury not to vote to indict, because the prosecutor was worried about having to try a messy case with an imperfect victim?

Prosecutors are evaluated on their conviction rates, correct?

[chestnutmarebeware]

But the snakes’ attorneys would consider that to be profiling!

[ekat]

@Virginia_Horse_Mom

Could the prosecutor possibly have been trying to influence the Grabd Jury not to vote to indict, because the prosecutor was worried about having to try a messy case with an imperfect victim?

Prosecutors are evaluated on their conviction rates, correct?

I’d be more inclined to think they’re practicing how to present the victim to the actual jury and it came out all kinds of wrong in that informal setting.

[McGurk]

I think ekat has got it right.

My impression, after many years distance, was that the prosecutor wanted very much to try and convict the perpetrator, but was also very aware that she might not be a sympathetic victim.

He underestimated the impact of the photos.

[Virginia_Horse_Mom]

Interesting about the prosecutor.

Really sad about the photos.