MB update

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@cutter99

I don’t know too many addicts that are physically fit and combat ready.

It’s ironic. On one hand, RG gets bashed for not working and being an addict and a possible Marine boot camp dropout then when he goes up against a much larger Olympic athlete, he is Superman.

[Knights_Mom]

Bumbling cops and insufficient forensics do not fulfill preponderance of evidence thresholds.

Any jury who hears an itial search found nothing will believe that.

[Knights_Mom]

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@cutter99

I don’t know too many addicts that are physically fit and combat ready.

It’s ironic. On one hand, RG gets bashed for not working and being an addict and a possible Marine boot camp dropout then when he goes up against a much larger Olympic athlete, he is Superman.

I assure you to us he is never Superman.

Ever.

[DownYonder]

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It’s ironic. On one hand, RG gets bashed for not working and being an addict and a possible Marine boot camp dropout then when he goes up against a much larger Olympic athlete, he is Superman.

Heck, even I could have claimed to be a superhero if I had taken down a much larger Olympic athlete by cold-cocking him on the head - which many people seem to believe may be closer to the truth than the story told by two admitted liars and drug addicts with an agenda.

[MHM]

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@cutter99

I don’t know too many addicts that are physically fit and combat ready.

It’s ironic. On one hand, RG gets bashed for not working and being an addict and a possible Marine boot camp dropout then when he goes up against a much larger Olympic athlete, he is Superman.

I don’t claim to be an expert on Superman, but I don’t believe he is generally thought of as someone with an extensive criminal history that includes multiple assault charges.

[Virginia_Horse_Mom]

@hut-ho78

It’s ironic. On one hand, RG gets bashed for not working and being an addict and a possible Marine boot camp dropout then when he goes up against a much larger Olympic athlete, he is Superman.

Well let’s be fair, apparently this one time, in NC, RG was faster than a speeding bullet.

I wonder why no one was charged with attempted murder for that whole thing?

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@eggbutt

Actually, I believe MB’s quite competent attorneys have such significant evidence of wrongdoing that they will present a very solid case to the civil trial jury.

By the way, take a gander at the number of complete strangers posting on YT who, all on their own, came to the same conclusion about what happened that I and others have stated here. In other words, YOU are in the minority with your theory, but you be you, mkay?

Complete strangers AKA CotH posters who brag about it here. Right.

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@Sdel

@Virginia_Horse_Mom

Couldn’t they argue he was a broken man, in the midst of a psychological crisis involving a delusional disorder involving a belief that these two people represented an imminent threat to MHGs children, thus he arrived at the scene with a weapon… at which point these two people, both of whom have a demonstrated violent criminal history (look at their arrest records), attacked him.

The state psych in the criminal trial also testified to his, and others, very real fear and that LK’s behavior was fueling it.

Except the jury believed the defense mental health experts and the state psych also said MB was faking being insane and faking amnesia.

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@Knights_Mom

@CurrentlyHorseless

@BigMama1

@CurrentlyHorseless

Suppose MB had reloaded and killed both RG and LK, then shot himself? That’s definitely possible, given that we’re talking about a legally insane person with a gun, acting out in desperation.

Suppose none of this went down the way two serial liars say it did?

Regardless of what RG and LK say happened when MB arrived at the farmhouse that day, my interpretation of the jury’s finding of fact is that MB, in a delusional state and a rage, transported himself and a loaded gun to their physical location”. We don’t need LKs testimony to know she was shot twice and nearly died.

If MB had succeeded in murdering both LK and RG, and we had exactly the same physical evidence (except we now have two dead bodies), the same testimony from all other witnesses such as the CPS worker and ED, and LK and RG said nothing (because they’re dead, right?), I’d have the exact same interpretation of what happened.

Despite LKs admitting to lying on SM, I believe their testimony as to what happened. I don’t believe it simply on the basis of their credibility, I believe it because it fits with all the other evidence.

So the fact that LK and perhaps RG are “known liars” is true, but not necessarily relevant to my, and the jury’s, interpretation of what happened.

Yeah people believe certain politicians too despite evidence.

You can believe as you wish but you must note that the overwhelming majority of people here, and who watched the criminal trial, and the jury do not and will not believe as you.

Eventually you will see the civil case is doomed as far as the plaintiff. Of course at that time you’ll post that you knew it all along .

That full disclosure of both parties is a double edge sword. While LK has had and continues to have her past drug through court and SM, MB’s was protected in criminal court. Not anymore.

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@ekat

@CurrentlyHorseless

I will rephrase by saying that, given the outcome of the criminal trial on the claim of self defense, it is very difficult for me to imagine his civil lawyers putting their effort into that claim.

Why? Just because Judge T didn’t allow any evidence of self defense in doesn’t mean Judge Sceusi will lean the same way. Plus, what’s allowed in is vastly different in the civil arena.

If I were his attorneys, I’d be even more determined to get that previously excluded info out there.

Maybe they can try to claim self defense because he believed she was the Were Rabbit while he was in a delusional state.

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@DownYonder

General comment that I wonder why certain posters here feel it is so important to push the narrative that RG is a “hero.”

Are they trying to convince someone that he is worthy of keeping around (so he can reap the benefits of a potential settlement in the civil suits)?

Or are they trying to schmooze him in hopes he can be depended on regarding his testimony during depositions, etc.?

Or both? Or other scenarios?

Giving a man his due. He stopped an active shooter.

[Virginia_Horse_Mom]

@hut-ho78

That full disclosure of both parties is a double edge sword. While LK has had and continues to have her past drug through court and SM, MB’s was protected in criminal court. Not anymore.

Right right. She keeps on mentioning his ex wife on YT, and speculating that if VK had testified at trial, there would have been some serious bombshells. And it seems like LK is alluding to some sort of history related to MBs marriage and divorce.

You know who else was once married? LK! I wonder if her ex husband, or people close to him would have anything enlightening to share about her during the civil trial?

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@ekat

@CurrentlyHorseless

Judge T didn’t allow arguing a defense of self defense because Barisone’s lawyers had not presented any evidence that would support the claim of self defense.

What is the evidence that it was self defense? If there is evidence that it was self defense, why didn’t Bilinkas present it?

Well, we don’t know since Judge T didn’t allow it.

I’m disappointed. You are normally on top of things. Judge Taylor could not allow it because there was no evidence it happened. Imaginary scenarios have to be based on evidence. MB had the gun and had for several days. MB threw DCCP and MhG out of the office to retrieve the gun. MB went to the house. LK was shot.

[Sdel]

@Virginia_Horse_Mom

Right right. She keeps on mentioning his ex wife on YT, and speculating that if VK had testified at trial, there would have been some serious bombshells. And it seems like LK is alluding to some sort of history related to MBs marriage and divorce

And where on earth would she have gotten these ideas? She was never around MB’s ex-wife. The office access she was talking about in her emails in order to go through his business records?

[Knights_Mom]

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@eggbutt

Actually, I believe MB’s quite competent attorneys have such significant evidence of wrongdoing that they will present a very solid case to the civil trial jury.

By the way, take a gander at the number of complete strangers posting on YT who, all on their own, came to the same conclusion about what happened that I and others have stated here. In other words, YOU are in the minority with your theory, but you be you, mkay?

Complete strangers AKA CotH posters who brag about it here. Right.

Paranoid much?

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@Virginia_Horse_Mom

@eggbutt

Back to the civil trials, I think JK has an inkling of what can/will be brought up without objection and I suspect he is doing his level best to find significant damaging evidence of bad behavior on MB to attempt to offset all that will be presented by Deininger and Bilinkas. In other words, buckle up buttercup!

So you think JK will continue to fund the legal fight, and encourage an attempt to go on offense?

I would think at some point a sane person would see that there is a substantial risk that even if LK is awarded compensation for her medical bills, MB prevails on his counterclaims, and receives financial compensation. In that situation… attorneys fees might be a wash for both parties. But MBs damages will be substantial given his readily demonstrable loss of income…

And wouldn’t LKs health insurance then be able to claim part of whatever she was awarded in the way of damages for medical expenses?

Anyway… I just see major risks on the horizon for the Kanareks. More so than for MB. Finding a way to settle all civil claims and counterclaims ASAP after MB is released from AK seems like it might be a very wise move.

Be careful. They will call you part of K-Klan for suggesting they should all settle.

[DownYonder]

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Maybe they can try to claim self defense because he believed she was the Were Rabbit while he was in a delusional state.

What’s a Were Rabbit? (Sorry, but that term escapes me…)

[Virginia_Horse_Mom]

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Be careful. They will call you part of K-Klan for suggesting they should all settle.

Oh - I think settling would be smart for a lot of reasons.

I think LK has more financial exposure than MB at this point when it comes to the lawsuit.

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@MHM

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@cutter99

I don’t know too many addicts that are physically fit and combat ready.

It’s ironic. On one hand, RG gets bashed for not working and being an addict and a possible Marine boot camp dropout then when he goes up against a much larger Olympic athlete, he is Superman.

I don’t claim to be an expert on Superman, but I don’t believe he is generally thought of as someone with an extensive criminal history that includes multiple assault charges.

Tell that to Lex Luthor…

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@Virginia_Horse_Mom

I think LK has more financial exposure than MB at this point when it comes to the lawsuit.

Except she apparently has no attachable assets. And as I said previously, even if MB prevails, he will get nothing other than vindication - although that could certainly go a long way toward helping him heal psychologically from the damage they have done to him over the years.