MB update

[erinmeri]

@ekat

How? Other than not securing RG and letting him run around all nilly-willy?

Ahem. It is “Willy-nilly”. Carry on.

[hut-ho78]

@erinmeri

@hut-ho78

You are mistaken. LE in Uvalde waited an hour and waited for a specialty unit, used hand sanitizer, while kids and teachers were shot and then bled out. They may have still messed up the forensics when they finally entered.

LE in this case risked their lives and kept everyone alive. The first 3 on the scene searched and handcuffed the conscious individuals and saved the one that was bleeding out.

I bet Uvalde would hire them in an instant.

I don’t know how some continue on that LE is supposed to wait for backup before stopping active shooters.

I’m not even blaming Uvalde police though they had the wrong response. It’s an unthinkable situation no matter how often it happens. I think they will all do better next time assuming they continue on with a career in law enforcement.

What???

Everything about this post boggles my mind.

Edited:

Your post is all over the place. The only thing I can agree with is that Uvalde police should have MOVED and didn’t and people died. Everything else is word salad.

AND you don’t blame Uvalde police? And they”ll maybe do a better job if they elect to continue in law enforcement? What??? What?!?!?!?’ This is so infuriating that I can barely form thoughts.

The least offensive (though also baffling) thing you said was that LEOs risked their lives at Hawthorn Hill,Which LEOs risked their lives when MB had been beaten and restrained and the empty gun was beneath him?

They didn’t know he was restrained when they ran in.

I don’t believe anything about my posts upset you in any way. You overplayed the drama long ago.

[MHM]

@trubandloki

So no, LE did not do a good job just because no one died in the end.

And really, that may have been just dumb luck that the first responding officer happened to be right up the street, and was there very quickly after the 911 call. If he had been 10 minutes away…

[ekat]

@LilRanger

But smart, since the internet is forever, and what she says now will always be there. So there may be some indication from things that she will have to stop, so she’s getting it out there now before a court orders had to stop.

All good points. But it’s also pretty stupid as it shows a pattern that continues up to today.

Three years ago on July 24, she was posting about kings and queens and audios. Last night she was calling him a murderer.

If he gets his injunction, she will clearly deserve it.

[Sdel]

@hut-ho78

They didn’t know he was restrained when they ran in.

Umm…that would have been information that 911 would have provided. RG clearly said he was restraining MB to 911.

[ekat]

My dad always said it backwards. Hard habit to break….

[hut-ho78]

@smoofox

@hut-ho78

I can name two now how say they posted on YT and bragged here. Can’t remember if there are any others.

TWO?? There are HUNDREDS of accounts posting all over those Law & Crime videos. Hundreds. Many of them simply move from trial to trial and follow along and comment - the same as some do for Barisone threads here.

Even suggesting that a lot of those hundreds of YT posters are all COTHers is one of the biggest WTH comments I have seen of late.

Have you read the YT comments? Have you seen LK in fine form - insulting, threatening, sneering and presenting her own Truth? Hinting at great revelations of some kind that will shock everyone? She did that before the criminal trial as well…

Even better - have you seen Bob Abooey (a LK alter) having a friendly little chat with LK? I stumbled on that the other night… so bizarre.

I have not posted there - but seeing the way LK swoops in to lecture someone about posting in a 3 month old thread when she apparently is closely monitoring responses and participation - and thinks she is a mod of some kind… is beyond sad. Who does that?

*edited because the word is revelations not relevations or even relations

I’ve gone to look for LK’s comments after hearing about them here and finally found a couple. The only way y’all can know about them is to be either hovering or somehow notified in the YouTube comment chain that you received a response. Maybe you have a duty roster going with who has to watch all of the YouTube video comments. I don’t comment there so I don’t know if there is a notification or not.

Y’all do.

[eggbutt]

@hut-ho78

Law enforcement is not a nanny system. There has to have been a crime or one in progress.

Wow…you really are grasping now aren’t you?

I can’t deal with this naivete any more. Y’all have fun with this poster and keep interacting with them all you want. It has become ridiculous.

Who is assigned 3rd shift today?

[erinmeri]

@hut-ho78

They didn’t know he was restrained when they ran in.

I don’t believe anything about my posts upset you in any way. You overplayed the drama long ago.

1. the mere fact that RG was on top of MB didn’t tip them off?

2. You upset me daily. I can typically refrain from responding, but sometimes you really take the cake. Your recent post about your supposed civil rights history laid bare against the words you used about Rittenhouse are upsetting. And the gall to turn around and virtue signal with Arbery and to paint yourself as an ally? LOL. Cool.

[hut-ho78]

@ekat

@hut-ho78

I didn’t say hallucinations. I said delusional state. The defense mental health experts prevailed by describing a delusional state. No evidence was presented at the criminal trial to lead to a scenario of self defense so it can’t be used as an alternative sequence of events by the defense.

I don’t know how creative a civil suit can get for alternate scenarios. I would guess a lot more creative.

This was actually discussed in earlier threads when a few of us were trying to understand how a defense of self defense and insanity would work together.

And they went to great length to describe his delusions, which did not include hallucinations of made up characters, creatures or whatever a were rabbit is. It’s offensive that you went there.

I used an example from the law of self defense except he used something else not real to explain NGRI. He said something about the delusion or insanity had to be so strong that the shooter didn’t know they were shooting at a person they thought it was something scary.

I don’t believe you thought it was disrespectful. With al the hateful comments that have been stated in these forums with no objection from you, your credibility has eroded considerably.

[LilRanger]

@ekat

All good points. But it’s also pretty stupid as it shows a pattern that continues up to today.

Short-term gain for long-term pain, eh? Winners gonna win!

[ekat]

@hut-ho78

I used an example from the law of self defense except he used something else not real to explain NGRI. He said something about the delusion or insanity had to be so strong that the shooter didn’t know they were shooting at a person they thought it was something scary.

I don’t believe you thought it was disrespectful. With al the hateful comments that have been stated in these forums with no objection from you, your credibility has eroded considerably.

I absolutely find it disrespectful that you were making a mockery of a mental health issue in general, and Michael Barisone’s mental health specifically.

I guess it’s good I am not concerned one bit as to your opinion of my credibility.

Also: Branca did not watch all of the experts’ testimony by his own admission. Therefore, his conclusions were incorrect at best.

[hut-ho78]

@ekat

@hut-ho78

I do not know these people. I am a Random Internet Poster. So, no to your questions.

That was not condescending. That would be counter productive to a sharing of information.

Then how can you be so certain as to what you assert?

You really don’t know that alternate imaginary scenarios involving someone else did it offense can’t be used in a criminal trial without evidence backing it up? That is hard to believe.

Explains a lot.

[hut-ho78]

@eggbutt

You don’t know and/or aren’t familiar with actual police officers. Heymer is VERY LUCKY HE IS ALIVE. Heymer had no idea what the situation was and took RG’s word without question. Many rookie cops have been killed or taken hostage for making the same mistake. Absolutely unacceptable in every single aspect.

Read up on active shooters and Uvalde. Oh wait. You don’t read my posts. Right.

[Sdel]

@ekat

Also: Branca did not watch all of the experts’ testimony by his own admission. Therefore, his conclusions were incorrect at best.

Branca also chalked up the verdict to jury nullification. So that throws out the precious jury instructions and how that means the jury found X because they believed Y right there….

So Hut, when is LK going to appear on Law of Self-Defense?

[ekat]

@hut-ho78

You really don’t know that alternate imaginary scenarios involving someone else did it offense can’t be used in a criminal trial without evidence backing it up?

Is this sentence in English?

Also, your snide little response shows you completely missed what I asked you.

[hut-ho78]

@erinmeri

Honest question for @hut-ho78. What is the motivation behind your participation in these threads? You seem to want to admonish people. You appear to enjoy rehashing old arguments. What is your end goal when you have a minority view? Do you hope to sway hearts and minds? Do you persist in the hope that some or any of the posters here will be cowed?

I am just genuinely curious why you are one of the most prolific Barisone posters and yet you rail against the threads themselves. Could you please take the time to enlighten me?

When you say “honest question” it never is.

[hut-ho78]

@ekat

@hut-ho78

I’ll have to go back to hear the verdict read. I thought the aggravated assault charge was an allowed lesser charge if the jury wanted to downgrade the attempted murder charge. I didn’t think it came into play unless the jury said it did.

I’ll listen again. I can’t remember if they read that one out and said NG.

Here, let me help you:

Approx: 1:09

Judge T: With regard to count two, the lesser included offense of aggravated assault upon Robert Goodwin?

Jury Foreman: Not Guilty.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ssT501pJ7XI&t=1s

Thank you so much!

[hut-ho78]

@eggbutt

@hut-ho78

Heymer said no “weapons, anything that could hurt me.”

Nope, you are mistaken. Heymer said nothing of the sort during his testimony at the Miranda hearing.

But you go ahead and double down hoping someone somewhere will agree with you.

I was referring to the trial. Oh wait. You don’t read my posts. Never mind.

[Knights_Mom]

@LilRanger

@MHM

Does it matter in the big picture? Are they likely to be worth very much? Didn’t someone say they had some age and assorted soundness issues on them?

In the current market it could make a dent. Plus, according to her she really loves those horses, (no reason to believe she doesn’t) I think it would be devastating for her to have to sell them.

Loves the horses? Loves to collect them. Loves what they can get her.