Michael Barisone/Lauren Kanarek Civil Suit

[DownYonder]

@ohnoO

@lazaret

I did notice that some of the testimony at trial did not seem to indicate that someone nearly a foot taller than her could possibly have shot her in the way that was described, especially if they were very close to her as she described

Ding! Ding! Ding! This is one of the hills I may have to die on—that he was already on his back when the gun discharged.

I have always been very, very suspicious about the purported trajectory of the round that exited lower on her back than the entrance wound was on her front, esp. since that was the round that went through her lung. To follow that path, the round would have had to travel somewhat vertically through her body and be fired by someone much taller than she was. Yes, MB was much taller but didn’t she claim to be on the steps when he fired at her? And why would he have aimed at such a steep downward angle to cause the vertical trajectory?

It always seemed to me that the only explanation for that trajectory was that they were on the ground grappling for the gun, and I can even see a scenario where they were both lying on their stomachs facing each other when the gun discharged.

Edited to add that I forgot how RG described taking MB to the ground but if MB was already down on the ground on his stomach grappling with LK, that would have made it much, much easier for RG to get on top of his back.

[EmilyM]

With respect to the dead horse beating of MHG not paying board: isn’t it likely her clients paid board on the horses she had there in training? Do you think she really had 8 or 9 horses just eating for free? Unless that was her salary. Thoughts?

[DownYonder]

I haven’t watched this newest YT podcast or whatever it is, and after all the comments about how bad it is, I am going to pass on it.

And for the record, I have no alter on YT and I don’t ever comment there (or on Twitter, for that matter).

[BigMama1]

That one is definitely an insider. The “Lauren was giving him more money than anyone else” BS is a dead giveaway.

[DownYonder]

@FitzE

Wait, so, the mother is now not only trolling YouTube to make comments but also trying to disguise who she is by changing her user name (but failing by still having her email visible)? Am I getting this right?

Words fail. As bad as we thought it was that both parents came on this little forum, now parents are engaging in YouTube commentary battles?

Truly unbelievable. Holy heck. I mean that’s not even checkers at this point, let alone chess of any dimensions whatsoever.

Is it really KK? Or did someone steal her YT login and create that alter?

[eggbutt]

So Kirby is posting on YouTube rather than responding to a subpoena? Typical, isn’t it?

[trubandloki]

@EmilyM

With respect to the dead horse beating of MHG not paying board: isn’t it likely her clients paid board on the horses she had there in training? Do you think she really had 8 or 9 horses just eating for free? Unless that was her salary. Thoughts?

I think the point being made is - the Kanarek family can not decide how they want that to work in their made-up narrative. Here (and other places) when complaining about MHG they carry on about how she did not even pay anything (ignoring the obvious that she brought money into the business) and then they turn around and post in those YT comments that Michael somehow has a history of going after the money of wealthy women.
Which their own daughter’s situation proves is not accurate too, but … we are discussing the part where the Kanarek’s are saying two opposing things about MHG.

[DownYonder]

@trubandloki

How do they come up with all these alters?
Darn.
I am one of those people that has a hard time coming up with names for my pets, I can not imagine having to re-invent myself over and over and over again on so many platforms.

Not to mention how to come up with and remember so many passwords. Or are they using the same p/w all the time? That could explain how someone else may be using the login. IOW, if a person uses the same p/w all the time - no matter the platform or the username - once another party is able to discern the p/w for one, they are then able to use the credentials to log into other platforms where the user’s profile has been set up with the same p/w.

[DownYonder]

Legal Eagles - If additional written discovery requests are served, will those be posted on the court website?

(And sorry if this has already been discussed!)

[Omgitsme]

That’s freaking hilarious

[ohnoO]

@EmilyM

With respect to the dead horse beating of MHG not paying board: isn’t it likely her clients paid board on the horses she had there in training? Do you think she really had 8 or 9 horses just eating for free? Unless that was her salary. Thoughts?

I’m remembering that several of her horses were babies turned out for the summer—not so expensive to maintain.

I would think that she brought in a good deal of money. She taught, she rode/trained clients’ horses, her clients boarded there—Ruth Cox testified that she paid board.

Good try, K’s!

[DownYonder]

@ohnoO

Ruth Cox testified that she paid board.

I can’t remember - did anyone ask RC how much she was paying for board/training? I am guessing though that since she co-owned the horse with MHG, she was paying board only and MHG was providing the training as her part of the deal.

[ohnoO]

@DownYonder

@ohnoO

Ruth Cox testified that she paid board.

I can’t remember - did anyone ask RC how much she was paying for board/training? I am guessing though that since she co-owned the horse with MHG, she was paying board only and MHG was providing the training as her part of the deal.

Not that I heard and I listened closely to Ruth’s testimony because I wondered if she was paying 1/2 of the board. Your idea makes better sense.

[erinmeri]

Y’all are remarkable sleuths, but I must say your long game is lacking. Why show your cards when you could have left them rope to hang themselves and quietly documented it?

[trubandloki]

@erinmeri

Y’all are remarkable sleuths, but I must say your long game is lacking. Why show your cards when you could have left them rope to hang themselves and quietly documented it?

I guess we (the EIM) are just too honest for that.

[cutter99]

@3PonyFarm

Prior to the shooting when the police responded to the 911 calls, could MB have filed a verbal assault criminal complaint with the police?
Maybe a criminal complaint would have stopped the escalation.

I wish the police would have been proactive in de-escalating this situation. Maybe if he felt they were taking the situation more seriously he would not have felt so helpless in the days prior to the shooting.

It is such a shame what happened for both sides.

Nothing was going to stop the escalation because the command Lauren Kanarek gave was to “FINISH THE BASTARD”!

Once the “FINISH THE BASTARD” plan was set in place, there was no stopping it. If Lauren is still going after the current girlfriend of someone she dated 25 years ago, what does that tell you? What does her behavior here repeatedly threatening people tell you?

She is like a dog with a bone that just will not give it a rest. And woe to the person that does not agree with Lauren Kanarek because you are going to get threatened.

Hell, they are still trying to finish him now. Why else would they continue with a civil suit that does not look favorable to them in the least bit?

[Knights_Mom]

@erinmeri

Y’all are remarkable sleuths, but I must say your long game is lacking. Why show your cards when you could have left them rope to hang themselves and quietly documented it?

Personally speaking, the trap thing is fun and all but I’m not here to go hunting. I’d rather (in this situation) just put it out there.

Were I in a game of mental warfare it would be different. But I’m not so just commenting on things I see or notice seems more genuine and on point for this forum.

[erinmeri]

@trubandloki

I guess we (the EIM) are just too honest for that.

There’s nothing dishonest about letting someone else show people who they are, unimpeded. And if the past is any indication, their inability to help themselves when it comes to posting on public forums eventually shows up in court documents. I don’t play chess, much less multidimensional chess… but that just seems like game play 101.

[cutter99]

@erinmeri

Y’all are remarkable sleuths, but I must say your long game is lacking. Why show your cards when you could have left them rope to hang themselves and quietly documented it?

I personally think this crap needs to be outed when it is found.

These people have run around spouting their crap for the last 3 1/2 years, while the man they destroyed has been locked up in one facility or another.

It should be looked at as a public service announcement. With any luck, it will warn people before they become the next victim of Lauren Kanarek and the KKlan.

I would certainly want to know the background of these people before any encounter with them, and if I heard half of what we know here, I would run away from doing business of any type with them!

[Knights_Mom]

Plus it was none of us jumping social media platforms.