Michael Barisone/Lauren Kanarek Civil Suit

[trubandloki]

I thought MHG called the police while Jonathan Kanarek (@Inigo-montoya) and Robert Guy Goodwin/Jim E Stark/Superman/Michael Goodwin were doing their trip away from the side of Lauren Kanarek at the farm.
Wasn’t she saying that Jonathan was making a scene or something?

[cutter99]

@Dragonfly90

I posted a rather benign comment about friends crossing paths with the K’s that was QFP. Then came a comment asking if LK had a Dragonfly tattoo. My initial reaction was that there was insinuation I was LK or connected with her so I understand the doxing comment. If the person says it just reminded her of wondering about LKs tattoos I won’t question that. And I really don’t care! I did and still wonder why my comment was QFP. I think it is only the second time…does it make me special?
Years ago someone tried to say I was LK, but in such vulgar way it ended up with that person being banned. The moderator made it very clear that insinuation was false.
Dragonfly are wonderful as they eat mosquitoes and gnats! I love seeing hundreds of them flying around my front lawn.

I QFPed your post as I found it interesting and wanted to see it again!

[downen]

I’m mostly a lurker on these threads, but this recent discussion got me to thinking… What if the defense somehow managed to flip RG? That would bring everything crashing down as clearly he is privvy to just about everything that happened. And while he seems very unflippable at this point, I thought awhile back someone mentioned the Ks possibly throwing him under the bus to protect themselves. All these things they are doing remind me of a certain former president, and we all know that person has no problem throwing people who were once loyal to the lions. I guess it was just a thought as I recently saw Michael Cohen singing like a bird on the news the other day…

[Ambitious_Kate]

@CurrentlyHorseless

know what disingenuous means. It means dishonest.

Nno…not quite.

[eggbutt]

Yes but JK insists she wasn’t there. Hmmmm…how did he know.

As far as RC committing to care for LK’s horses, didn’t she leave fairly quickly?

[eggbutt]

Unless they could pin several felonies on him that the state wouldn’t negotiate. Would the pro Kanarek local legal system charge him?

My thoughts only with nothing based on known facts.*

[Ambitious_Kate]

@arktos19

Well, no…. Not really.

dis·in·gen·u·ous

/ˌdisənˈjenyəwəs/

adjective

1. not candid or sincere, typically by pretending that one knows less about something than one really does.

“he was being somewhat disingenuous as well as cynical”

Or, pretending to care or be sincere about something when one actually doesn’t and has an ulterior motive. Such as, pretending to care about participating in the topics of these threads when actually wanting to insert disinformation into the conversational stream. That too is disingenuous.

[I_dratherbe]

@Virginia_Horse_Mom

Is today the day the judge is going to look at the various motions regarding subpoenas? I’m sure this has been discussed before… but I am lost on the issue at this point.

Today is the day scheduled for the motions. The motions calendar shows “paper” as the courtroom, so if the motions calendar is right, there will be no oral arguments today.

[hut-ho78]

@arktos19

@CurrentlyHorseless

I know what disingenuous means. It means dishonest

Well, no…. Not really.

dis·in·gen·u·ous

/ˌdisənˈjenyəwəs/

adjective

1. not candid or sincere, typically by pretending that one knows less about something than one really does.

“he was being somewhat disingenuous as well as cynical”

Yes really. Disingenuous/dishonest are synonyms.

Merriam-Webster

Synonyms of disingenuous

disingenuous

adjective

Definition of disingenuous

as in dishonest

Synonyms & Similar Words

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• dishonest

• deceitful

• untruthful

• contrived

• hypocritical

• claptrap

• assumed

• unnatural

• devious

• insincere

• bogus

• strained

• affected

• mechanical

• false

• forced

• simplistic

• simulated

• sham

• backhanded

• inappropriate

• thoughtless

• unctuous

• put-on

• pretended

• feigned

• phony

• two-faced

• double

• jive

• artificial

• fake

• lip

• meaningless

• counterfeit

• phoney

• mealymouthed

• glib

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• phoney-baloney

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• Janus-faced

• superficial

• simple

• mealy

• facile

• double-faced

• casual

• double-dealing

• breezy

• Pecksniffian

• left-handed

• empty

Antonyms & Near Antonyms

• honest

• sincere

• genuine

• heartfelt

• candid

• straightforward

[hut-ho78]

@DownYonder

@Knights_Mom

@Angela_Freda

I’m not sure this has been asked or answered before…

The day after JK and RG arrived at the farm, then the barn (early?) ostensibly to care for the horses.
HOWEVER- They never went back again after that, because they accepted the offers from ____ (insert names of people working at the barn or having horses at the barn*) to do it.

• aren’t those the same people who the Kanareks felt were plotting or knew of the plot,… to the point of planning to shake them down… to kill LK?

Outstanding question.

Didn’t someone post that they had agreed for RC to care for their horses?

And I have been wondering for a while who was at the farm when they went back. I seem to recall something about MHG being there but that RG/JK didn’t see her. Does that mean MHG was in the clubhouse and that RG/JK never entered the clubhouse - they only went to the farmhouse and then into the stable area? Did anyone accompany them to see what they did? I’m assuming they retrieved the recording devices from LK’s locker, from under the bench in the barn aisle, and from other places they had hidden them (the tackroom?). And what happened to the one that was (apparently) in MB’s office? They would have had to go through the clubhouse to get to the office - yes? If MHG was in the clubhouse, then they could not have retrieved that one. Was it ever found, and if so, by whom?

MHG called 911. RC promised JK and RG that she would personally take care of the horses. RG and JK did not know at the time it was RC’s gun that MB used to shoot LK.

Edited to add that one cannot go back and retrieve a verbal gossip means of communication. I don’t believe there were ever listening devices planted in private areas.

[trubandloki]

I so can not be the only person who when looking up a definition of something does not bother to go deep diving into the synonyms, I just take the definition at face value because heck, it is the definition.
But then, I do not have a Google Law Degree and I do not go looking for reasons to be that offended.

[cheval_convert]

The way I read it in these particular posts, the meaning was insincere, not dishonest. YMMV.

[Angela_Freda]

@hut-ho78

MHG called 911. RC promised JK and RG that she would personally take care of the horses. RG and JK did not know at the time it was RC’s gun that MB used to shoot LK.

But they knew that, per the transcribed eavesdropping… It was RC who was supposed to kill her…??

“lets get Ruth to do it…!” Or something?

I mean, LK was pretty clear in her posts she feared for her life… And her horses welfare… But somehow that didn’t stick after she was actually shot, allegedly by the guy she feared… But we now trust the horses safety to these people we feared would not protect them from harm, ie a dryer fire…
.

[CurrentlyHorseless]

@eggbutt

@CurrentlyHorseless will you please explain to all of us reading this thread why you are almost fanatical in the frequency you argue this same argument of what you insist the jury thought when they rendered their verdict? Why do you continue to harangue us about your belief there is proof Michael Barisone shot a gun? What difference does it make at this point in time other than giving you something to post since you clearly don’t seem to be able to comment on the shocking exhibits filed this week. You always fall back on your thoughts on the verdict. No one but you cares.

You will find that the frequency with which I post that position is strictly less than the frequency with which you or someone else posts that there is no evidence that MB shot her.

[trubandloki]

@hut-ho78

Edited to add that one cannot go back and retrieve a verbal gossip means of communication. I don’t believe there were ever listening devices planted in private areas.

You act like you want to do what is right but for some reason on this point you just stomp your feet and shove your head under a rock.

Everyone on a every side of the situation admits there are recordings. The evidence has recordings. But you base your theories on the case that there just are not recordings. So strange, so very strange.

Would you like me to paste the part of the text messages where Lauren Kanarek talks about placing bugs? Will that prove it to you?

[hut-ho78]

@trubandloki

@hut-ho78

Edited to add that one cannot go back and retrieve a verbal gossip means of communication. I don’t believe there were ever listening devices planted in private areas.

You act like you want to do what is right but for some reason on this point you just stomp your feet and shove your head under a rock.

Everyone on a every side of this situation admits there are recordings. The evidence has recordings. But you base your theories on the case that there just are not recordings. So strange, so very strange.

A $5,000 sweep found nothing. I don’t believe LK or RG or even JK on the day LK was shot by MB could get into private areas unseen. Every person in that barn, whether staff and boarders, was on high alert.

[trubandloki]

@hut-ho78

@trubandloki

@hut-ho78

Edited to add that one cannot go back and retrieve a verbal gossip means of communication. I don’t believe there were ever listening devices planted in private areas.

You act like you want to do what is right but for some reason on this point you just stomp your feet and shove your head under a rock.

Everyone on a every side of this situation admits there are recordings. The evidence has recordings. But you base your theories on the case that there just are not recordings. So strange, so very strange.

A $5,000 sweep found nothing. I don’t believe LK or RG or even JK on the day LK was shot by MB could get into private areas unseen. Every person in that barn, whether staff and boarders, was on high alert.

This has been explained and it is a very simple explanation, but I guess you are ignoring that too. Maybe google it so you can read it there and believe it.

Both Robert Guy Goodwin/Jim E Stark/Superman/Michael Goodwin and Lauren Kanarek admitted under oath that they placed recording devices.
There are texts in the latest filings between them talking about placing recording devices.

There is proof of some huge number of recordings in evidence.

It is so weird the facts that you ignore to make your story work for you.

[CurrentlyHorseless]

@SillyHorse

@CurrentlyHorseless

I know what disingenuous means. It means dishonest.

LOL Here’s a tip: Google is your friend (but not for law degrees).

I know what lots of words mean without having to google them, @SillyHorse, including “disingenuous.”

[Maria]

Then how could LK be quoting and posting on social media almost exact conversations that she was not part of?

[trubandloki]

@CurrentlyHorseless

@SillyHorse

@CurrentlyHorseless

I know what disingenuous means. It means dishonest.

LOL Here’s a tip: Google is your friend (but not for law degrees).

I know what lots of words mean without having to google them, @SillyHorse, including disingenuous.

I would assume that if someone wanted to tell you that you are lying they would just use the word lying, since we have no issue using that word here.
So likely the use of the word disingenuous meant what most of us think it means.

What is your thought on the texts in the latest filing?
What is your thought on the whole Kanarek family, one by one, approaching Mr. Tarshis about the case before the criminal trial?
Why not talk about the current filings and all the stuff in there?