Michael Barisone/Lauren Kanarek Civil Suit

[Ambitious_Kate]

As far as motions filed, correct me but didn’t GAS say that if there was an objection to his motion, he would request oral arguments? So is it possible that right now, the lawyers are negotiating the objections with each order or something? Before an objection is filed? What possibilities are going on behind the scenes?

[Sdel]

@Virginia_Horse_Mom

• I think the cause of MB’s insanity was most certainly an issue during the criminal trial. Dr. Simring’s testimony, as well as multiple other witnesses, all spoke to it.

Yes, let’s just forget how Taylor spent the whole trial preventing Bilinkas from getting in exactly what LK did to MB……and then allowed The Stache to just put it all out there, and heavily emphasize how he should have been afraid, while he completely ignored the witness because it was the state’s witness.

[BigMama1]

Only you can allow yourself to be “goaded.” Nobody else is responsible for your feelings, actions, and reactions.

[MHM]

Heads up, Boyd fans!

[MHM]

I’m adding the link to this video for the Boyd fans.

https://m.facebook.com/events/879834859909695?view=permalink&id=889854052241109

[Ambitious_Kate]

So, the ladies will, in essence be chasing after Mr. Martin all morning. What a lovely thought. Only in horses

[MHM]

Probably not just all morning. Lol.

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@cutter99

Below are screen shots of @minnie’s incredible post from yesterday, stating what many of us feel and believe. Please note the number of “likes” @CurrentlyHorseless, @hut-ho78, @Inigo-montoya, @Seeker1.

If this any indication of what people truly feel about the things that have happened to Michael Barisone in the last 3 1/2 years, the civil trial is going to be a hoot, and not in a good way for Lauren Kanarek or any of the Kanarek family!

I was taking a break but since you tagged me (once again complain complain then where did you go, you aren’t paying us attention), what I noticed about her post is that even though her opinions are strong (and I don’t agree with all of them), she expressed them kindly. They were critical but not deliberately cruel, taunting or baiting. Well done @minnie. I hope you are an example to those who agree with you that one can post strong opinions of behavior without personal attacks.

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@cutter99

@CurrentlyHorseless

@cutter99

Below are screen shots of @minnie’s incredible post from yesterday, stating what many of us feel and believe. Please note the number of “likes” @CurrentlyHorseless, @hut-ho78, @Inigo-montoya, @Seeker1.

If this any indication of what people truly feel about the things that have happened to Michael Barisone in the last 3 1/2 years, the civil trial is going to be a hoot, and not in a good way for Lauren Kanarek or any of the Kanarek family!

Why did you tag me, @cutter99?

I saw @minnie ‘s post and refrained from responding.

Are you asking me to comment on her post?

Once again @CurrentlyHorseless, with no surprise to anyone here, you have missed the point.

And once again CurrentlyHorseless, reading comprehension should be encouraged!

Why didn’t you answer her question @cutter99? What was it you said about reading comprehension? I didn’t ask why you tagged me because I think those of you who tag me and others just crave attention.

[Ambitious_Kate]

People need to stop drinking Bloody Marys three times in front of the mirror.

[iberianfan]

Where I live, criminal statutes are separate. But you are probably correct. I may research it,but I believe you.

[trubandloki]

@iberianfan

Where I live, criminal statutes are separate. But you are probably correct. I may research it,but I believe you.

I was hoping you would find something we all missed!
Thank you for your input!

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@CanteringCarrot

You don’t have to be a rocket surgeon to realize what the majority view is re this whole debacle and the resulting civil suit(s). I don’t just mean the majority view on COTH either. It’s across multiple social media platforms, and no, it’s not some mob influence and/or conspiracy. What does that say when an overwhelming amount of individuals, not associated with anyone here, feel disgusted by the victim/LK? Or just in general feel very little sympathy for her.

It’s not a conspiracy, it’s not jealousy, it’s not the pleasure of hate, or whatever the next “theory” will be, it’s just that people don’t like sh*tty behavior. Or they’ve been in a similar situation where they’ve been close to or reached their breaking point. Or they’ve dealt with very difficult individuals in their lives…or they are conditioned to feel repulsed by human evil.

It’s also entirely possible to recognize wrong doing ON BOTH SIDES.

One side has been quiet, so no comments there, but the side that hasn’t been quiet literally got shot “center mass, twice, point blank” and so on, and seemingly hasn’t learned a damn thing from the ordeal and shows zero remorse for any bad behavior.

Even if something isn’t my fault, and I get injured or whatever, I still may modify my future behavior(s) as a result. Just as a learning and an adulting thing. Maybe I just have some level of preservation and lack a high amount of arrogance, I don’t know.

Maybe LK has changed a bit, I don’t know. I don’t know her. Even though she’s a victim, showing some remorse (for her harassing behavior) actually would’ve been of benefit to her, I think, vs whatever she was/is trying to pull off. But, showing remorse may in turn, admit or show fault, and we can’t do that!

*I’m in no way saying that she is exclusively at fault for the shooting…before someone comes along and plays Twister.

When are y’all ever quiet. I take a break. Wow, I even took one for two years and it goes on and on and on. Plus, I get tagged and baited and taunted.

If y’all cared about MB, you would not be encouraging his delusions about LK.

If y’all cared are mental illness, there would be compassion for all parties.

If you truly believed that MB shot her in self defense, you wouldn’t be attacking her character and her family’s characters to say she deserved to be shot.

If you truly believed the judge was vindictive, you wouldn’t be sending in complaints.

If you truly believed I was wrong in my comments, you would scroll on by or, confident in your own assessment, politely explain why and move on, not give up on rational thought and go to name calling.

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@Jealoushe

Oh ok I googled but it told me otherwise, thanks.

Agree. Proving someone has a flawed character is still irrelevant to their damages if someone shoots them.

[Ambitious_Kate]

@Ambitious_Kate

People need to stop drinking Bloody Marys three times in front of the mirror.

Or eating Ho Hos.

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@3PonyFarm

I hope that if Judge T tries to use the civil suit as a reason that MB should be kept confined because he does not believe MB could handle it, the attorneys stress to him that they are very confident about MB’s position in the lawsuit.

They could also congratulate the judge on the completion of his medical degree because without one he shouldn’t offer an opinion on a medical condition.

The medical profession doesn’t make the decision to keep or release MB. The court does as it tries to balance the individual rights with the safety of the individual from self harm and the safety of the public from the individual.

If MB is released too soon and commits another violent act, that comes back on the court (Judge Taylor), not the medical professionals. See State of New Jersey vs Fields 1978.

I hope MB has been able to work the steps and his supporters have found room in one of the semi-controlled residential homes that Judge Taylor noted has not been found to be available before, so he can continue healing.

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@trubandloki

@CurrentlyHorseless

@Knights_Mom

@CurrentlyHorseless

@cutter99

Below are screen shots of @minnie’s incredible post from yesterday, stating what many of us feel and believe. Please note the number of “likes” @CurrentlyHorseless, @hut-ho78, @Inigo-montoya, @Seeker1.

If this any indication of what people truly feel about the things that have happened to Michael Barisone in the last 3 1/2 years, the civil trial is going to be a hoot, and not in a good way for Lauren Kanarek or any of the Kanarek family!

Why did you tag me, @cutter99?

I saw @minnie ‘s post and refrained from responding.

Are you asking me to comment on her post?

No. She is saying that the tagged people should NOTE THE NUMBER OF LIKES to that post and use that as a gauge as to how any potential jury might also feel. A litmus test of sorts.

But why tag me? I’m capable of reading the number of likes without being tagged.

Are you just goading me?

1. @Minnie did an excellent job of encapsulating the majority/mob narrative. She gets bonus points for dialing back on the pure hate component.

2. I do not think the posters in these threads are representative of the general public.

3. While the dominant narrative here is that LK through her behavior “caused” MB to “snap” and therefore caused him to shoot her, I think there is zero % chance that the defense will succeed in establishing that LK caused MBs insanity.

4. Given 3., I don’t think the defense will try to establish that LK caused his insanity. Of course the defense will try to imply that LK “drove him insane” to make her a less sympathetic victim.

5. In Deininger’s answer to the suit, he does not claim that LK drove MB insane.

6. I would not have posted on Minnie’s posting you hadn’t goaded me.

@CurrentlyHorseless

I think you’re right that the defense implying that her behavior caused the mental break made LK a less sympathetic victim, along with all the other effort to make her appear unsympathetic.

However, the jury in the criminal trial was only charged with determining whether or not MB was insane at the time he shot her. The verdict of NGRI does not indicate the jury determined that she was the cause of his insanity.

I’m always puzzled that the Barisone crowd considers the verdict of NGRI a great success of the defense. The defense did not successfully negate the prosecution’s case of actus reus. What the defense succeeded in establishing is that MB was insane at the time he shot LK. Period.

Trying to establish that LK “caused” his insanity is very, very different from establishing that he is/was insane.

Oh look, it is happening again…and again and again and again.

This has been explained to you so many times. Too bad you ignore it and then pretend something else was said.

Sigh.

#jonathankanarek
#kirbykanarek
#laurenkanarek
#lalapoprider
#liars
#prooftheyareliars
#contempt

#finishthebastard

@CurrentlyHorseless note how happy @trubandloki is that you are commenting.

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@SoCoPony

@CurrentlyHorseless here is another one. It’s all about attention. Smh.

[omare]

As far as character evidence-would it not be limited to the usual rules for introducing evidence at trial? I am guessing (not lawyer googling here for back up :)) that one would have to show “relevance”, be prohibited from heresay, whether it can be used to impeach a witness, etc. and find the correct ways to introduce it/lay the foundation. Being a litigator requires all those skill sets of knowing how to get certain evidence in the record.

[SoCoPony]