Michael Barisone/Lauren Kanarek Civil Suit

[MHM]

@Mersidoats

An independent trainer couldn’t afford to put all their eggs in one basket.

I’ve seen it happen once in a while, but I would think it would involve a pretty significant sum of money to make it worthwhile for the trainer.

And probably an ironclad contract so that there are provisions in place for either party to exit as needed.

[3PonyFarm]

The ones I know about have a contract for a certain period of time that included salary and housing. Both sides would really have to get along with each other or it could go bad quickly.

[eggbutt]

@MHM

@lazaret

The number of times I have used a portapotty while holding a horse by the reins immediately outside suggests maybe a similar circumstance…just indoors

I will admit I’ve used warm water from a restroom to give a horse a bath. But I brought a bucket of warm water to the horse. I didn’t try to bring the horse into the restroom. Lol.

The Hunt Horse Complex in Raleigh, NC has been known to have a horse or two in the bathrooms on several occasions. And, yes, there were signs put up prohibiting horses from entering any bathroom. I wonder if the horses were able to read the signs?

[MHM]

Lol.

And why were the horses in the restroom? And how did they fit through the door?

[Knights_Mom]

I tried to use my Google law degree about horses in bathrooms but all I could find is this:

1. Men can’t eat ice cream while riding a horse in Cotton Valley, Louisiana.

2. In Colorado, Utah, and Washington, D.C., fishing from horseback is illegal.

3. In Pocataligo, Georgia, horses are not allowed to neigh after 10 PM.

4. You cannot open or close an umbrella in the presence of a horse in New York.

5. No lassoing fish from horseback, if you live in Tennessee.

6. Your horse is required to wear diapers in public areas in Charleston, South Carolina.

7. In Burns, Oregon it’s the law that horses must pay admission to enter taverns.

8. Between March 1st and October 20th in Burdville, Vermont, no horse is allowed to wander around.

9. You can get jail time for riding an ugly horse in Hartsville, Illinois.

10. Careful not to take pictures of horses on Sunday in McAllen, Texas. You can get up to 3 days in jail for disturbing the animal.

[3PonyFarm]

I like no. 3 there should also be a time in the morning that no screaming from the horses is allowed.

[eggbutt]

I have no idea! The bathrooms at the complex are large and also have showers, so it would be easy for a small horse to get through the door.

[MHM]

@Knights_Mom

4. You cannot open or close an umbrella in the presence of a horse in New York.

I can think of a few horse shows in New York where they should post that sign.

[MHM]

@eggbutt

I have no idea! The bathrooms at the complex are large and also have showers, so it would be easy for a small horse to get through the door.

Actually, now that I think of it, I believe I’ve heard a story about somebody bringing a horse inside a restroom to braid it, because that was the only place on the property that was warm. Maybe that was it!

[dacasodivine]

@cutter99

Curious, isn’t it? I wonder if her sponsor is from when she worked in the “healthcare” industry as an “event planner”!

Still way behind and may I just say “wow!” Now I know why the thread blew up over the weekend.

But to answer the above, I don’t think there is a sponsor. I think she makes her living suing people. Often enough their insurance settles rather than spending money on lawyers to keep LK in $$$.

Who does that, sues people as a source of income? Oh wait…

[CurrentlyHorseless]

@Knights_Mom

@CurrentlyHorseless

@Knights_Mom

@CurrentlyHorseless

@MHM

Thanks.

Talk about doing an extreme 180!

LOL. She did an extreme 180 after he shot her.

You can see why she’d be upset if she was not permitted to train with “the name on the door”, given how miraculous she considered his instruction to be.

Customers often idolize their trainers but that doesn’t give them a right to declare themselves as an exclusive audience of one where only the head trainer teaches. That happens no where and shows how unfamiliar she and others are of how sports training works.

In the post extolling his excellence a year before he shot her, she stated that she trained with him “daily”.

It’s up to the trainer and client to negotiate whether the client is taught 100% by trainer, 50% or 20%.

It sounds like she was being trained predominantly by Barisone himself in 2018. If that was “the deal” whether by written contract, oral contract, or just by the routine established in 2018, it is understandable she would feel cheated if she was no longer being trained predominantly by MB himself in July 2019.

Obviously she was well aware of how dressage training with a Michael Barisone worked, since she had been training with him for well over a year.

It appears as if you are placing blame on him for her deciding on retribution when she wasn’t getting what she wanted. In most training situations, when things go south, you leave. You don’t go FinishTheBastarding.

From what I understanding it was her habit of not showing up which brought her down a few notches regarding her having favored nation status.

Who knows maybe MB trained her less because she disgusted him and just looking at her face made him want to upchuck. Who knows?

My point is that she apparently loved training with him in 2018 when she was training with him “on a daily basis”. The monthly fee, inclusion of the apartment, and expectation of head trainer sessions is whatever LK and MB agree on.

If at some point she was no longer getting trained predominantly by MB, as she seems to have been historically, that’s a very significant change in their “deal”. It is understandable that she would think that she’s not getting what she was paying for. Who knows what she and RG thought they were owed for the renovations. Who knows what they were of promised in terms of free board tor Jay T as part of that purchase.

It appears she was in the process of leaving, but felt she was owed significant amounts of money, and had been bullied by MB/MHG. If not for the various sloppy side deals, the two parties could have parted ways much more easily.

[trubandloki]

If I remember correctly, back in the day (2018) Lauren Kanarek was praising Justin on Facebook about her great lessons as much or more than she was praising Michael. So back then the deal included riding with Justin and it was OK.

[MHM]

@trubandloki

If I remember correctly, back in the day (2018) Lauren Kanarek was praising Justin on Facebook about her great lessons as much or more than she was praising Michael. So back then the deal included riding with Justin and it was OK.

Hmm. Interesting. I wonder what changed in the interim?

[trubandloki]

@MHM

@trubandloki

If I remember correctly, back in the day (2018) Lauren Kanarek was praising Justin on Facebook about her great lessons as much or more than she was praising Michael. So back then the deal included riding with Justin and it was OK.

Hmm. Interesting. I wonder what changed in the interim?

Lauren Kanarek appears to have had a temper tantrum about not getting her way.

I mean really, who can think that if you are frequently not showing up for your lessons that someone will hold a lesson spot for you? That is just crazy.
But it appears that Lauren Kanarek thought everyone should just do what she demanded of them.

[CurrentlyHorseless]

@trubandloki

If I remember correctly, back in the day (2018) Lauren Kanarek was praising Justin on Facebook about her great lessons as much or more than she was praising Michael. So back then the deal included riding with Justin and it was OK.

So, @trubandloki , you’ve given no explanation for why you claim the “ha ha, maybe they’ll be homeless” text was from JK.

Perhaps should delete your posts using that bogus claim to harass him.

[Sdel]

@trubandloki

@MHM

@trubandloki

If I remember correctly, back in the day (2018) Lauren Kanarek was praising Justin on Facebook about her great lessons as much or more than she was praising Michael. So back then the deal included riding with Justin and it was OK.

Hmm. Interesting. I wonder what changed in the interim?

Lauren Kanarek appears to have had a temper tantrum about not getting her way.

I mean really, who can think that if you are frequently not showing up for your lessons that someone will hold a lesson spot for you? That is just crazy.
But it appears that Lauren Kanarek thought everyone should just do what she demanded of them.

It’s pretty obvious that Lauren’s problem was that MHG existed and had more say in how the place operated than Lauren did.

[MHM]

@Sdel

It’s pretty obvious that Lauren’s problem was that MHG existed and had more say in how the place operated than Lauren did.

But wasn’t MHG already there in 2018? Before LK ever arrived?

[hut-ho78]

@Angela_Freda

@hut-ho78

No, he is not a victim of LK. She gave him plenty of cause to take to a judge. Neither LK nor her family deserved for her to be shot.

He took it to several people, including to the PD itself, seeking a supervisor to look at the harassment he was enduring…
But that, and the ability to claim self defense was denied him. Like his freedom is now.

@lazaret do you want to take this on about New Jersey eviction process and court orders? My posting of the New Jersey links is not ending the endless belief the police can act as private rousters.

[Knights_Mom]

@CurrentlyHorseless

@Knights_Mom

@CurrentlyHorseless

@Knights_Mom

@CurrentlyHorseless

@MHM

Thanks.

Talk about doing an extreme 180!

LOL. She did an extreme 180 after he shot her.

You can see why she’d be upset if she was not permitted to train with “the name on the door”, given how miraculous she considered his instruction to be.

Customers often idolize their trainers but that doesn’t give them a right to declare themselves as an exclusive audience of one where only the head trainer teaches. That happens no where and shows how unfamiliar she and others are of how sports training works.

In the post extolling his excellence a year before he shot her, she stated that she trained with him “daily”.

It’s up to the trainer and client to negotiate whether the client is taught 100% by trainer, 50% or 20%.

It sounds like she was being trained predominantly by Barisone himself in 2018. If that was “the deal” whether by written contract, oral contract, or just by the routine established in 2018, it is understandable she would feel cheated if she was no longer being trained predominantly by MB himself in July 2019.

Obviously she was well aware of how dressage training with a Michael Barisone worked, since she had been training with him for well over a year.

It appears as if you are placing blame on him for her deciding on retribution when she wasn’t getting what she wanted. In most training situations, when things go south, you leave. You don’t go FinishTheBastarding.

From what I understanding it was her habit of not showing up which brought her down a few notches regarding her having favored nation status.

Who knows maybe MB trained her less because she disgusted him and just looking at her face made him want to upchuck. Who knows?

My point is that she apparently loved training with him in 2018 when she was training with him “on a daily basis”. The monthly fee, inclusion of the apartment, and expectation of head trainer sessions is whatever LK and MB agree on.

If at some point she was no longer getting trained predominantly by MB, as she seems to have been historically, that’s a very significant change in their “deal”. It is understandable that she would think that she’s not getting what she was paying for. Who knows what she and RG thought they were owed for the renovations. Who knows what they were of promised in terms of free board tor Jay T as part of that purchase.

It appears she was in the process of leaving, but felt she was owed significant amounts of money, and had been bullied by MB/MHG. If not for the various sloppy side deals, the two parties could have parted ways much more easily.

Sure LK thought. LK felt. LK wanted.

All bullhockey. Everything she wanted, everything she thought was clearly fragments of hallucination wrapped in bloated ego with a side of stupid salad.

Your statements all have their genesis in the faulty assumption that she was a golden student, on time and present - religiously. A student of such character and steadfastness that they would never compete with others in their neverending venture to dominate as teachers pet. To be the prima ballerina despite being absent the dedication to do so.

Sure, LK was a pristine presence there and all the meanie mean mean people were dastardly beings to not appreciate and worship her awesomeness.

The truth is she wasn’t owed a gosh darned, rootin’ tootin’ thing. She was a toxin and a malignancy that had to be gone. Her biggest problem is that she showed everyone what she was, and they came to believe her.

[eggbutt]

Keep in mind she didn’t act alone. Her father and male companion supported her behavior, urged her on and conspired with her to destroy a man, his life, his business, his relationships, his goals.