Michael Barisone/Lauren Kanarek Civil Suit

[Sdel]

@CurrentlyHorseless

“speculated” that I was LKs sister, although seems to have dropped it.

Nope. I said LK’s sister would have been able to get the information that got YD banned for doxxing.

[cutter99]

@Inigo-montoya

Eggbutt gratuitously decided to call RG a punk.
She calls me a shyster and a grifter and regularly suggests I have inappropriate, illegal relationships with police and judges.
She is a pathetic pathological liar and if any lawyer wants to question me for calling out Eggbutt you can be sure I’ll be happy to repeat anything I say here.
The question is why do you sit by and allow her to make nonsensical accusations.

@Inigo-montoya, if the shoe fit…

You sure are hung up on an online forum you have stated is just a bunch of middle aged women with nothing better to do.

Don’t raise your blood pressure over us bunch of nobodies!

Why does this forum bother you do much?

[erinmeri]

@CurrentlyHorseless

No argument there. Talent and dedication are good attributes in amateurs.

However, the most important attribute of an amateur boarder and client is their ability to pay their bills and perhaps be a source of funds on side deals such as paying commissions on purchases or buying up your retired horses. Perhaps buying an expensive horse for the trainer to campaign.

It’s not necessary for an amateur to have talent to be an attractive prospect to most trainers.

So you believe that Lauren, who was clearly not a talented or dedicated ammy, was a source of funds for MB? Despite her paying less for 5 horses (and rent!) than most people pay in mid-level, non-BNT barns?

Strange.

[Virginia_Horse_Mom]

@CurrentlyHorseless

How is that doxxing?

It is speculating on identity when the poster did not reveal their identity.

Everyone has speculated that IM is JK and @trubandloki tags IM and Seeker on a daily basis, noting both screen name and IRL name every time.

@Sdel “speculated” that I was LKs sister, although seems to have dropped it.

No one has been banned for that speculation.

It’s definitely an attempt to doxx and against community guidelines.

Seeker self identified on these forums ages ago.

IM’s real life identity was revealed in public court filings.

If JK wants to speculate on who someone is… that’s one thing. Although… it still is frowned upon by mods.

But to declaratively link a COTH account to a real life human. You can’t do that, it’s a violation of the guidelines, unless there is public information out there to substantiate the link, or, unless someone has “outed” their own real life ID.

[CanteringCarrot]

I could say that I know who a few posters here are. I could post proof, but even then I feel as though that’s not right. I think it’s only “right” when one outs oneself, and/or it’s revealed in a legal document available to the public.

[Inigo-montoya]

Ok VHM……this is your wake up call.
Multiple times, every single day, Trubandloki posts crap about Jonathan and Kirby Kanarek.
Have you missed that?
Finally, after a thousand accusatory posts IM responds to Trubandloki and you, in your infinite wisdom, say Trubandloki is being harassed.

[erinmeri]

@MHM

I wonder if GAS is aware of IM’s posting habits on the BB yet?

If so, he is most certainly reconsidering his involvement in this whole mess. My goodness!

[hut-ho78]

@Knights_Mom

@hut-ho78

@Omgitsme

“Big name” trainers don’t walk up to a first level ammy and invite them to train. You go to them. None of the trainers I know (big name or not) ask people to ride with them.

ETA: or anyone else, regardless of the level they ride.

Some train anyone if they thing money is in it. Oh wait. They take money from anyone. Training is iffy. They will also sell a rider a very expensive horse after they convince the rider to sell the safe horse with which they were actually making progress. Even the medium and small named trainers will do that one. Big name trainers just spend more of their clients’ money.

Some are honorable and great and outstanding. Some not at all.

I can only surmise you’re pontificating on the latest Lauren Lamentation. You portray her as quite the clueless naive amateur who gets constantly taken advantage of.

And don’t try to pretend you weren’t telling her narrative for that person you claim not to know, speaking of things not previously written about.

What?

[jaj]

Do grownups really talk about themselves in the third person?

[Joanne]

Apparently the military doesn’t care if one lies about having served in the military.

Military Records Fraud Fact Sheet

[CanteringCarrot]

@jaj

Do grownups really talk about themselves in the third person?

More than you might expect.

It’s…weird.

[CurrentlyHorseless]

@Virginia_Horse_Mom

Lara is a very common name. It could be a different person he is linking to Trub’s account.

It’s definitely a doxxing attempt though. And against community guidelines. Other people have been banned for behavior like this.

So why wasn’t @Sdel banned for identifying me as LKs sister? Not just “a sister” but a particular sister who worked in HR. She even researched non Coth internet sources to make the ID. The supposed ID.

The mods explained to me that such speculation is permitted. It’s not doxxing.

[jaj]

It sure is.

[erinmeri]

@CurrentlyHorseless

Well, you didn’t understand my reply.

To say that a trainer will take on an average talented amateur because the amateur is a reliable source of board and training revenue, especially if she is of unlimited means, does not contradict your point that talented juniors and amateurs are also valuable.

I do ride. I have no problem hiring whatever trainer is in my price range, and it’s not because I’m super talented. I’m pretty sure it’s because I’m super reliable in paying my bills.

Re bolded: There’s an example of baiting and goading. You’re welcome.

Me saying that what you are asserting is too outrageous to reply to isn’t baiting or goading. It’s my opinion. As for you riding, I don’t understand the disconnect between that fact and your apparent lack of understanding of how this industry functions.

[arktos19]

@jaj

Do

Someone was clearly left unsupervised this evening

[Inigo-montoya]

Unfortunately for you, VHM, the editor of this magazine, with whom I have a myriad of disagreements, is a very well educated, intelligent woman.
She sees Trubandloki referring to Jonathan Kanarek and Kirby Kanarek on a daily basis.
I’m confident she’ll understand exactly what’s going on here.

[CanteringCarrot]

@Joanne

Apparently the military doesn’t care if one lies about having served in the military.

https://www.archives.gov/oig/military-records-fraud-fact-sheet

They “care” under certain criteria/circumstances.

You can also get put on blast on social media and the court of public opinion will rule on your level of scum baggery.

Whether they “care” or if it’s a crime is relevant, but the buttom line is that you’re a piece of sh*t if you lie about serving in the military.

[jaj]

Or the houseguests have taken over.

[arktos19]

You seem to have a myriad of disagreements with pretty much everyone

[Virginia_Horse_Mom]

@Inigo-montoya

Unfortunately for you, VHM, the editor of this magazine, with whom I have a myriad of disagreements, is a very well educated, intelligent woman.
She sees Trubandloki referring to Jonathan Kanarek and Kirby Kanarek on a daily basis.
I’m confident she’ll understand exactly what’s going on here.

If she’s as educated as you say, as the editor of a magazine, she will find your choice to say “myriad of” in this post rather… irritating. It’s grammatically incorrect.

Do better.