[QUOTE=Cayusepapoose;7889449]
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10151935401409998&set=pb.603744997.-2207520000.1417637288.&type=3&theater I don’t know if I’m linking this right…[/QUOTE]
Here’s the 48-second “trailer” for that movie - none of the cats look very happy or content to me:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gx_VgNZSVlw
I think I would have to poke my eyes out if I watched that.
This crap soooo crazy. Her Youtube “holiday” videos?
“Happy New Year! Merry Christmas!” - Here we are scrubbing under washing machines, cleaning the outside of garbage cans - and of course - filling feet (1:40, 2:40, 2:50)!!!
And more cleaning - cleaning - cleaning. (also noted in some of these videos - she has up to 15 staff!! For 10 horses! I guess when you are compulsively cleaning everything you need that many people!)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TKp4xsrEg24&list=UUA7lG-NzSpFYMh6Fv5nvSJw
[QUOTE=Sannois;7879221]
Okay I am a little sick to my stomach.
I don’t get it. I did see a whole lot of pictures of her riding nice looking horses bareback, A lot of nice looking horses lunging. A whole bunch of pics just posing for the camera. And then a link with all these bandaged feet.
Is she like a cutter? instead of maiming herself she does it to animals?
This is beyond sick. WHY is this nut case still owing horses? What can be done?[/QUOTE]
It’s quite a common symptom in un-medicated schizophrenia to compulsively pick at imagined blemishes until serious damage is caused, and I’ve heard of parents transferring these urges on to their children. Maybe that’s what is going on here. In any case I don’t think she realises what she’s doing is wrong, so advice, or even threats against her won’t make any difference. What I don’t get is that there are other people involved (including whoever is taking the photos). Why do they not step in???
[QUOTE=Appsolute;7889666]
cleaning the outside of garbage cans -[/QUOTE]
Phew, I wondered if I was doing my horse a serious injustice by never cleaning the outside of his feed bin/garbage can, but I’m glad someone else thinks it is excessive too!
(Don’t worry, the inside of the garbage can gets cleaned from time to time.)
[QUOTE=ThisTooShallPass;7889093]
Well said Anne FS.
It says a LOT about the NJSPCA intentionally leaving the animals at her house out of this. I say liar, liar pants on fire to the NJSPCA claiming they were not aware of the other animals at her house & what has been being done to them too.[/QUOTE]
Well, I think that cutting off cat whiskers and trimming their foot hair off is not legally abuse, and the testimony of witnesses (on the CBS News Philly video) was 3 people talking exclusively about the horses (and the goat? can’t remember). So I’m glad the NJSPCA did not delay even longer to get any evidence about the cats - they don’t have that, but they did about the horses so they got them out. My fear is that with the horses gone, the creepy whisker and hair trimming of the cats will escalate to something worse.
[QUOTE=Laurierace;7888949]
Not a lawyer so this might be a dumb question but why a supeoba and not a warrant for removing the animals?[/QUOTE]
I don’t have a law degree, so take this with a grain of salt but as far as I was taught and understood…
A subpoena is a document that demands a person must present any and all requested items to authorities that pertain to an ongoing criminal or civil investigation or that they must present themselves in court alongside said items. In this case, the items would be the horses.
A warrant is can be one of three types but generally is issued when a person is charged with a crime. As far as I can tell from the news articles, she was not charged with abuse until after the animals were seized. I would assume that the authorities subpoenaed her to procure the horses as part of an ongoing legal investigation and then once the horses were seized as evidence, the evidence then provided the basis for the warrant.
Again, don’t take my word on it and don’t bust my chops if it’s slightly off in terms of definition.
I’ve been following this case and this post as I’m originally from around that area of NJ and this whole is sickening. The state of the horses, the pictures of her with the horses, and the secondhand stories of her personality and former activities. I hope the horses find peace, whether through rehab or euthanasia, and that she receives any needed psychiatric help and is banned from owning horses or any animals again. But the law rarely institutes that as a sentence… unfortunately…
Have any of you actually gone to HER facebook page.
It is bizarre totally bizarre. Last year she was begging for any donations.
And some really sickening videos of horridly lame horses being forced to lunge.
Every time someone would say something about their feet she would not reply.
She has quite a thick accent, but speaks english.
There is a comment about the fact that she will get her horses back.
Makes sense. I guess I watched too many episodes of animal cops. They were always out getting warrants to seize animals. Might have been creative editing but it seemed to me they acted in hours not years on that show as well.
[QUOTE=Pipkin;7889696]
It’s quite a common symptom in un-medicated schizophrenia to compulsively pick at imagined blemishes until serious damage is caused, and I’ve heard of parents transferring these urges on to their children. Maybe that’s what is going on here. What I don’t get is that there are other people involved (including whoever is taking the photos). Why do they not step in???[/QUOTE]
Most of the recent grooms look Hispanic. It’s entirely possible they have very little actual experience around horses and simply don’t know that it’s wrong. It’s also possible they aren’t legal citizens and saying something would get them deported.
Has anyone been able to find a link to a fund specifically for these horses? I don’t feel comfortable simply donating to the NJ SPCA.
Ick! Sorry for not being more mature, but ICK! I was just perusing her FB page (guess I’m a sucker for punishment) but she posted her ex’s (family) tribute tape on her page. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mBDKrtPE82E&feature=share&list=PLbDluyo31wt49MI4sIGN85OE87G8z8yZ-r) So relieved her son got out of that. Trying to ride on the tails of glory much? Might explain the driving helmet and driving suit a bit…
If you have the stomach to, go to the first pictures on her facebook page to 2010 and the horses are already foundered, some on all four feet; she has her workers pouring feed in front of horses bandaged and sternally prone. She claims that one of them “Carrie is a Dream Vacation” foundered on all four possibly due to a stroke or lyme, etc. I’m not so sure she has staff anymore now. The smiles start to disappear from their faces the more recent the pictures get. The foot with the hoof capsule removed and bleeding shows up on a FEW occasions; different towels, more blood. In one picture, she’s working on one horse, the goat is on crossties waiting and one of the workers is actually working with the dremmel on the one with a rear hoof capsule removed.
She’s garnered lots of attention over the years from people who either don’t know any better, called herself a rescue for a while but that cash cow ran out
and even some of her employees tried to bouy her up financially - I think they’re gone now. She’s still up on Gofund me, Giveforward, Crowdrise; I’ve heard about gofund me but the others are new to me. It all makes my head swim.
Laurierace, there’s Horse Rescue United and NJ Aid For Animals. I hope they’re legit; it’s getting to the point I don’t believe in any of it anymore.
[QUOTE=enjoytheride;7889767]
M It’s entirely possible they have very little actual experience around horses and simply don’t know that it’s wrong. [/QUOTE]
Actually I didn’t think of that, would explain it.
[QUOTE=Appsolute;7889666]
This crap soooo crazy. Her Youtube “holiday” videos?
“Happy New Year! Merry Christmas!” - Here we are scrubbing under washing machines, cleaning the outside of garbage cans - and of course - filling feet (1:40, 2:40, 2:50)!!!
And more cleaning - cleaning - cleaning. (also noted in some of these videos - she has up to 15 staff!! For 10 horses! I guess when you are compulsively cleaning everything you need that many people!)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TKp4xsrEg24&list=UUA7lG-NzSpFYMh6Fv5nvSJw[/QUOTE]
Okay that Video clearly shows serious OCD. You could eat off those floors literally!
And it seems the staff is mostly non english speaking. Wonder if they are illegals.
I am all for a clean barn, but there is not a pice of poop or dust anywhere.
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10151846569129998&set=pb.603744997.-2207520000.1417640326.&type=3&theater I hope that link came through. Her facebook page might disappear.
I’ve seen this picture pop up several times over the past week. What is it, exactly, that we are looking at there? Is there ANY horn left?
I’ve never seen a hoof look so gruesome and I just don’t know what I’m looking at. 
[QUOTE=Cayusepapoose;7889858]
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10151846569129998&set=pb.603744997.-2207520000.1417640326.&type=3&theater I hope that link came through. Her facebook page might disappear.[/QUOTE]
The drill at 1.43?
I stopped watching. Literally too scared to go on.
this is the same foot you’ve been seeing but a different datehttps://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10151860732339998&set=pb.603744997.-2207520000.1417650679.&type=3&theater and here’s the one with the feedhttps://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10151871042534998&set=pb.603744997.-2207520000.1417650679.&type=3&theater
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