NEW Barisone Court Filing - 7/15/21

[Ghazzu]

Just speculation, but it might be that the difference was between making general statements and making statements directed at a particular poster.

[trubandloki]

@Equkelly

Theres no excuse for censoring the word “racist” but not censoring actual racist slurs.

Also let’s not act like this forum is a gracious gift from the coth gods. Coth is one of the most popular equestrian online BBs they make money on this forum through ads.

It is a privilege to post here and not feel attacked based on your race. Not everyone can say that.

Also most BBs have volunteer mods so no you don’t have to pay someone to sit at a desk and moderate. There’s no excuse for the problematic discrepancies here.

If you do not like it, then do not post here.
But I do not see what his has to do with this thread, unless the goal is simply to get the thread closed.

[Mersidoats]

indicates generality, as in you-general or we-general.

[eggbutt]

Thank you!

[MHM]

(g) General you, including everyone on the BB. Not specifically you, Eggbutt.

[trubandloki]

@eggbutt, to me (g) just means someone is not willing to type out (general).

But then, I am that person who frequently has to ask “what does that acronym mean”.

[Brown_Derby]

@eggbutt

I’m generally pretty computer savvy but what does (g) mean?

(g) is Old School, pre-emoji for ‘grins’. Think happy face.

[MHM]

Anyone who complains about the moderating on the BB now probably was not around back in the day when it was really… uneven. For lack of a better term.

[Mersidoats]

WRT to reddit, I took a look and there is a small thread regarding this whole debacle on r/TrueCrimeDiscussion. It’s about a year old, and doesn’t add anything new to the topic. Let’s not get this thread shut down, work is really boring this time of year, need something to keep my mind occupied…

ETA: the reddit thread links back to the original thread from 8/2019. How very meta.

[Sdel]

@Mersidoats

Let’s not get this thread shut down, work is really boring this time of year, need something to keep my mind occupied…

Well, it seems the thread in CE is where we need to go……

[Equkelly]

@Ghazzu

Just speculation, but it might be that the difference was between making general statements and making statements directed at a particular poster.

I didn’t name or direct it at anyone. Everyone just assumed I was talking a certain someone which should say more about them than it does about me.

In any case, since then I’ve been dealing with some stuff in my personal life and reading some of the crap on CE wouldn’t be healthy for me right now anyway. Some of the issues discussed over there that I was already outraged about then, now hit way close to home as of recently. If I read some of it now, while I’m trying to grieve I’d really lose my remaining marbles.

[YankeeDuchess]

@CanteringCarrot

The thing is, they only drag you in if you let them. If you just stopped posting and went dormant, you’d just fade away after awhile and people would stop even bringing you up or thinking of you, probably.

Also, you made such a big deal about leaving the forum/going dormant/not posting, that can only make one wonder if you like the attention to some extent.

Speaking somewhat generally here, I really feel it’s usually a good idea when people walk away from the forum. Which I suppose you did? For 2 weeks or so (I don’t know, exactly). Some people spend a lot of time on here and get very invested in certain topics. Possibly to their own detriment.

Of course you can do as you please and you, as well as everyone else, is free to express themselves here. I don’t really have a strong view either way. If this is how you like to pass the time, have at it.

I do realize that it is within my power to walk away entirely, despite the continuing mockery, jabs and accusations of being a racist. I will, if I feel like it.

It is not clear to me that I am “free to express [myself] here”. On the topic at hand, I expressed the opinion that the filing showed that MB was not even willing to take responsibility for permitting LK to live in the farmhouse in spring 2018 and again in spring 2019, instead asserting, laughably and pathetically, that LK’s lawyer father somehow forced him to accept her as a “houseguest”. No private citizen, lawyer, or Supreme Court judge can force a property owner to accept a tenant if the property owner doesn’t want to rent the property out; obviously her living there was part of the deal he agreed to. It was surprising to me that his lawyers want to (ridiculously) claim that the living situation was not previously agreed to by Barisone. How is that opinion inflammatory?

Do “others” believe that Barisone has no memory of the events on the day of the shooting? I guess that leaves us with the eye witness accounts of LK and RG.

From this filing, it seems clear his defense will be insanity/diminished responsibility rather than self defense.

[YankeeDuchess]

@Equkelly

@Ghazzu

Just speculation, but it might be that the difference was between making general statements and making statements directed at a particular poster.

I didn’t name or direct it at anyone. Everyone just assumed I was talking a certain someone which should say more about them than it does about me.

In any case, since then I’ve been dealing with some stuff in my personal life and reading some of the crap on CE wouldn’t be healthy for me right now anyway. Some of the issues discussed over there that I was already outraged about then, now hit way close to home as of recently. If I read some of it now, while I’m trying to grieve I’d really lose my remaining marbles.

Not true. The labels of “hateful idiot” and “racist” were clearly directed at me.

[Equkelly]

In any case even if I have problems with the moderation practices, I sure do enjoy that ignore feature.

[CanteringCarrot]

Ok.

You don’t know the details about the tenacy (including if it was forced or not). I don’t either. I also don’t trust all eye witness accounts fully, many reasons for that not specific to the case.

“No private citizen, lawyer, or Supreme Court judge can force a property owner to accept a tenant if the property owner doesn’t want to rent the property out…”

In an ideal and simple world, yes. However you’re thinking a bit narrow here.

I also don’t know how you’re not free to express yourself here. Who has actually stopped you from doing that?

Tbh, I’m not so interested in going back and forth on this. I’ll just wait for actual developments in the case and sit silent until then.

[ohmyheck]

@YankeeDuchess

As I said, I continue to have interest in the trial.

I will let my account go dormant, or not, as I see fit.

Hang in there YankeeDuchess.

I often don’t agree with your opinion or slant on a subject but I support your right to have it. And to depart and return as many times as you like.

[YankeeDuchess]

@Mersidoats

WRT to reddit, I took a look and there is a small thread regarding this whole debacle on r/TrueCrimeDiscussion. It’s about a year old, and doesn’t add anything new to the topic. Let’s not get this thread shut down, work is really boring this time of year, need something to keep my mind occupied…

ETA: the reddit thread links back to the original thread from 8/2019. How very meta.

There was a thread on Reddit with the sole topic being the CoTH thread on Ellen Doughty Hume, which BTW involves a CoTH poster with screen name Stormy17. The Reddit thread on the CoTH thread was hilarious.

[clanter]

@YankeeDuchess

If he gave her 30 days notice to vacate, it would be her responsibility to honor that, but even if she didn’t, it would be his responsibility to let the courts handle an eviction, rather than shoot her .

to me this just reinforces an insanity claim, a normal person would have done what you outlined or had been a person who plans the execution by purchasing a handgun, takes practice at a gun range then shoots her

I am amazed that at what was described as at a near point blank range he shoots her multiple times and not kill her. Having a Level 1 Trauma Emergency room hospital in Morristown was fortunate (there only 190 in the entire USA)

[YankeeDuchess]

@clanter

@YankeeDuchess

If he gave her 30 days notice to vacate, it would be her responsibility to honor that, but even if she didn’t, it would be his responsibility to let the courts handle an eviction, rather than shoot her .

to me this just reinforces an insanity claim, a normal person would have done what you outlined or had been a person who plans the execution by purchasing a handgun, takes practice at a gun range then shoots her

I am amazed that at what was described as at a near point blank range he shoots her multiple times and not kill her. Having a Level 1 Trauma Emergency room hospital in Morristown was fortunate (there only 190 in the entire USA)

At one level I agree with you, that the basic fact that he shot her in broad daylight at point blank range is indicative of a mental break down, if not insanity. At the same time, identifying anyone who attempts an irrational killing as automatically insane, and therefore not culpable, is obviously problematic. Were the Menendez brothers considered insane for murdering their parents?

In the case of the Menendez brothers, there seemed to be a financial motive, which cuts against insanity.

[YankeeDuchess]

@eggbutt

And once again, @YankeeDuchess has appeared to provoke and get the thread shut down. How very convenient.

I had asked the moderators the day I posted this new thread to move it to Current Events (because I posted it here in error) to prevent this individual from doing what they do best.

Oh well…walk on by.

I only appeared because you (and @Equkelly) gratuitously provoked me, @eggbutt.