New filing on ecourts re MB

[Knights_Mom]

@Virginia_Horse_Mom

@LiberalSnowflake

Absolutely agree, but it’s more the “Jonathan Kanarek has accused Tarshis of being a pathological liar IN WRITING” that I find boggling.

I messaged a group of my friends who are lawyers and judges and asked “if a lawyer accused you of being a pathological liar in writing, what would you do?” and I got back a bunch of laugh emojis, as obviously another lawyer would never be so foolish, but then they all said that legal action would be taken so fast that heads would spin.

Of course, I’m not in the USA, and maybe you can make such written accusations in America without action, but I’m guessing not. It’ll be interesting to see what Tarshis does about it.

Tarshis was accused of PERJURY, in writing.

Perjury is a crime.

I clearly remember the Ks demanding identities and proof upon anyone suggesting illegalities on their part on this very Board in the past. I guess for them life is different now with new rules for them.

[eggbutt]

Will the insurance company’s responses be posted on ecourt too? I’m directing this question to @ekat since @Inigo-montoya said she is my lawyer of choice on this thread.

Speaking of ekat, IM mentioned the game Jeopardy in his rant…I do believe we have enough history and weird situations to turn this into a Jeopardy game! “I’ll take Lauren’s lies for two thousand, Alex!”

[DownYonder]

@PDDT

I think it might have been the same poster who went on and on and on about how MB was foolish to not have insurance.

I am trying to catch up again this morning. But the whole thing about MB not having insurance was part of their plan to debunk the picture of him as a successful and responsible businessman and professional.

And I do believe their current extreme distress is because they knew that policy carrier had denied his claim and they believed he was going to be ruined financially because of all the legal costs. They therefore thought they had accomplished their mission to “Finish the Bastard” - only to find out that he was suing the policy carrier and may receive a payout from them anyway. So - horror of horrors - they may have failed to FTB. No wonder the liquor cabinet is wide open.

[Knights_Mom]

Yes all papers, answers, interrogatories, Bills of Particulars, motions, replies, oppositions, orders, exhibits etc are filed in the court file.

[cutter99]

Hoo boy, to be a fly on the wall in the Kanerek camp these days!

Just when LK and JK thought KKlan members would not need be deposed, BAM, a new suit that will likely require depositions!

Seems to be concerning enough to get their collective knickers in one big knot!

So much for the 76D chess game. Might be time to go back to playing checkers! Maybe online!

[Angela_Freda]

@trubandloki

I do not see why Jonathan Kanarek should find it at all upsetting that Michael would get his legal expenses paid for by the insurance that he paid for.
There is no logical reason why anyone from the Kanarek family should find this to be a problem.

Insurance companies like to cover their losses in situations like this, don’t they?
If they insurance co pays out to MB, and settling is often cheaper for them, would the insurance co then go after the PD who dropped the ball, repeatedly?

[Virginia_Horse_Mom]

@DownYonder

@PDDT

I think it might have been the same poster who went on and on and on about how MB was foolish to not have insurance.

I am trying to catch up again this morning. But the whole thing about MB not having insurance was part of their plan to debunk the picture of him as a successful and responsible businessman and professional.

And I do believe their current extreme distress is because they knew that policy carrier had denied his claim and they believed he was going to be ruined financially because of all the legal costs. They therefore thought they had accomplished their mission to “Finish the Bastard” - only to find out that he was suing the policy carrier and may receive a payout from them anyway. So - horror of horrors - they may have failed to FTB. No wonder the liquor cabinet is wide open.

I completely agree with your take on this.

[Virginia_Horse_Mom]

@Knights_Mom

Perjury is a crime.

I clearly remember the Ks demanding identities and proof upon anyone suggesting illegalities on their part on this very Board in the past. I guess for them life is different now with new rules for them.

Hmmmm. You are 100% correct about this, KM!

Just to underline the fact that IM did up the ante yesterday, and made full blown perjury accusations, here is my quote from yesterday of the IM post in question, in which IM makes detailed accusations with respect to lying & perjury…

@Virginia_Horse_Mom

@Inigo-montoya

Now you take the certification of MB’s attorney and closest friend as gospel. Do you give a damn about facts??
Steven Tarshis is a liar. He perjured himself over and over at the criminal trial. For along time, I believed he hadn’t committed perjury but merely had forgotten important facts in the 3 years between the shooting and the trial. But I was wrong. He lied. He said he was negotiating for weeks with me about finding LK a new barn. NO! Lie! I was out of the country and spoke to him for the first time ever on Friday, August 2.
He said he was recorded. LIE!
He and I had many many cordial conversations between the shooting and when we met him at Wellington.
We talked golf as well as mutual friends we had in NJ. He spoke about a possible movie about this whole matter. He spoke about who sho play him in the movie.
When we saw him at Adequan he could not have been happier to “finally meet us in person.” Those were his words! Do you think he had to spend 45 minutes talking about the case with JK, LK, and KK if he didn’t want to.
And, the next day he texted me…“nice to meet you, I spoke to Bilinkas about our conversation. How long are you going to be in Florida?” Yeah, I have all our texts to one other.
His certification is a lie.

Soooo… you are doubling down on all this.

And publicly accusing an attorney of perjuring himself.

Huh.

[MorganSercu]

@cutter99

Might be time to go back to playing checkers! Maybe online!

Tiddlywinks, or maybe Candyland.

[Angela_Freda]

@Virginia_Horse_Mom

Eggbutt might have missed the sentence in the most recent complaint that noted that no recordings were recovered. That’s my best guess.

Is it me?
Just because they weren’t recovered, doesn’t mean they didn’t exist, and get “poof” ed

[eggbutt]

I am curious as to what CH thinks Deininger is lying about when he talks about Taylor not allowing Barisone to present self defense. That is fact. Deininger’s recount of the incident is all true, it all came out in the trial. The only remaining question is, in what order did it actually take place?

We know Lauren lied about where Barisone was standing if and when he fired the gun, the forensics and trajectory proved that. In fact THAT is the only thing that was proven besides the obvious of Lauren having been shot, Michael having been beaten, choked, attacked by a dog and his arm badly twisted and broken, and Rob having some injury to his finger.

[Virginia_Horse_Mom]

@Angela_Freda

Is it me?
Just because they weren’t recovered, doesn’t mean they didn’t exist, and get “poof” ed

I agree. They definitely might have existed and gotten “lost.”

The whole situation is really crazy.

[eggbutt]

Yep, just like those pesky alleged KK transcripts. I wonder if she was blowing smoke when she bragged about being the dedicated transcriber here just to make herself feel involved and important?

[Angela_Freda]

If you’re hearing your murder being plotted, I’m guessing you would turn those cameras on ALL the time, not just when you’re not home.
No matter how annoying the beep.
In fact, its been repeatedly suggested that this altercation was recorded.

If you’re such a fan of recording things that you record an innocuous meeting with your own lawyer, I’d think you would record other, more pressing, and in your own imagination potentially life threatening, situations also.

[Virginia_Horse_Mom]

@Angela_Freda

Insurance companies like to cover their losses in situations like this, don’t they?
If they insurance co pays out to MB, and settling is often cheaper for them, would the insurance co then go after the PD who dropped the ball, repeatedly?

This is an interesting thought.

My mind actually went to whatever settlement this insurance company apparently paid to LK, as a result of RC’s part in the matter.

What if during the course of the discovery in this latest MB legal complaint, it’s discovered that LK and RG had more of a role in the shooting than was previously known, and additional evidence of this is found.

Might that jeopardize the settlement they already paid to LK ? Maybe there is a possible claw back provision of some kind?

[Angela_Freda]

Or not share with the prosecutor?

[Virginia_Horse_Mom]

That’s a thought.

My gut still says the prosecution and police want to avoid ever admitting that they screwed up or missed anything.

[Sdel]

@DownYonder

They therefore thought they had accomplished their mission to “Finish the Bastard” - only to find out that he was suing the policy carrier and may receive a payout from them anyway. So - horror of horrors - they may have failed to FTB. No wonder the liquor cabinet is wide open.

I think it has more to do with the treasure trove of evidence that the K’s no longer have control over. There is still more discovery to be done and no more control to be had over the situation.

[Knights_Mom]

@Virginia_Horse_Mom

@Angela_Freda

Insurance companies like to cover their losses in situations like this, don’t they?
If they insurance co pays out to MB, and settling is often cheaper for them, would the insurance co then go after the PD who dropped the ball, repeatedly?

This is an interesting thought.

My mind actually went to whatever settlement this insurance company apparently paid to LK, as a result of RC’s part in the matter.

What if during the course of the discovery in this latest MB legal complaint, it’s discovered that LK and RG had more of a role in the shooting than was previously known, and additional evidence of this is found.

Might that jeopardize the settlement they already paid to LK ? Maybe there is a possible claw back provision of some kind?

That’s the whole with/without prejudice thing.

[SillyHorse]

@MorganSercu

@cutter99

Might be time to go back to playing checkers! Maybe online!

Tiddlywinks, or maybe Candyland.

For a few posters here, Go Fish.