New filing on ecourts re MB

[Knights_Mom]

@MHM

How so?

Not saying.

[Knights_Mom]

@trubandloki

@Knights_Mom

@MHM

@trubandloki

As an outsider looking in, I can totally see how Mr. Tarshis can not like MHG, can say less than positive things about MHG, but can also know that Lauren Kanarek is evil and a less than reputable person, on a totally different level than his comments about MHG, and also know that MHG being MHG only has anything to do with this because Lauren Kanarek wanted to take down MHG so Lauren could be the queen (as she said in her manifesto).

If, in fact, Tarshis ever actually said anything negative about MHG.

Do we have any evidence of that? Or just IM/JK’s word?

I would never trust IMs word as gospel on anything.

I suspect gross exaggerations are the norm - at the very least.

Imagine being with friends, hanging out, having a few drinks, maybe a cigar at the golf club, just shooting the breeze making small meaningless comments about a few folks in the area. Now imagine years later having to rehash before a court and in public, someone’s gross exaggeration of innocuous comments made years ago at that event, just in furtherance of someone’s stanky grift.

Let me clarify something, which I guess was not as clear as I would have liked it in my post that has been quoted here.

I was simply saying - So what if Mr. Tarshis did say this stuff… I am not saying Mr. Tarshis DID say it, I am saying that Jonathan Kanarek trying to make him bad for saying it is just stupid because even if he did say it, it is not a huge deal.

Exactly what I was saying.

[MHM]

@eggbutt

Speaking of ekat, IM mentioned the game Jeopardy in his rant…I do believe we have enough history and weird situations to turn this into a Jeopardy game! “I’ll take Lauren’s lies for two thousand, Alex!”

I feel like that category would be a giant nightmare to moderate, since there would be so many possible answers.

[Virginia_Horse_Mom]

@3PonyFarm

What is Track 1 with regard to how cases are assigned?

Are you talking about the latest MB complaint?

Maybe it has something to do with it being a complaint seeking declaratory relief from a judge?

[CurrentlyHorseless]

@eggbutt

I am curious as to what CH thinks Deininger is lying about when he talks about Taylor not allowing Barisone to present self defense.

I’ve explained that at least four times. If you’re curious as to what I think, maybe you shouldn’t have me on ignore.

[LiberalSnowflake]

@Angela_Freda

If you’re hearing your murder being plotted, I’m guessing you would turn those cameras on ALL the time, not just when you’re not home.
No matter how annoying the beep.
In fact, its been repeatedly suggested that this altercation was recorded.

If you’re such a fan of recording things that you record an innocuous meeting with your own lawyer, I’d think you would record other, more pressing, and in your own imagination potentially life threatening, situations also.

I would think you’d have them on 24/7, saving or uploading EVERYTHING, and would WANT to hear the beep, because you’d want to know if those people you’d previously recorded organising your murder (which is apparently why you installed the recording equipment) were anywhere near you or your property. Weird …

[trubandloki]

@LiberalSnowflake

I would think you’d have them on 24/7, saving or uploading EVERYTHING, and would WANT to hear the beep, because you’d want to know if those people you’d previously recorded organising your murder (which is apparently why you installed the recording equipment) were anywhere near you or your property. Weird …

I have to agree.

Maybe the system we have is different but we can still record stuff, but not have a noise notification when it happens. Yet another reason why I find this whole - we shut it off while we were there - thing weird.

[3PonyFarm]

Yes, the current one. You may be right, legal terms trip me up!

Edit to add-google search says they are expedited and normally are resolved within 12 months.

[MHM]

@cutter99

So much for the 76D chess game. Might be time to go back to playing checkers! Maybe online!

I’m reminded of the scene in Young Sheldon when he loses the game and flips over the chess board. Lol.

[CurrentlyHorseless]

@Virginia_Horse_Mom

@iberianfan

I am way behind. Hopefully, this has been answered. I doubt I would have any insight. If I do, I will chime in.

Have you seen the latest legal filing?

Here’s a quoted post where it was linked earlier

@StB.YM

Relinked for anyone who needs it.

CivilCaseJacket (37).pdf (486.3 KB)

In summary, it’s a complaint for declaratory judgement by MB against two insurance companies. Apparently there were policies covering MB and SGF, and the argument is being made that they should have paid his attorneys fees for defending against the civil suit brought by LK. Apparently they didn’t, but now that he has been found not guilty in the criminal matter, and LK’s civil suit has been dismissed… MBs attorney’s are revisiting this issue with his insurance companies.

I’m curious as to whether or not anyone can speak to how frequently these sorts of legal complaints are made against insurance companies, and what the most common outcomes are.

Didn’t Deininger what the insurance company to pay for MBs lawyers in the criminal case as well?

In the suit, Deininger says the fact that LK dismissed her suit “absolves” MB of responsibility. Yet he continues to yammer about her provocations and illegal recordings despite MB having dismissed his suit against LK. It appears that MB dismissing his suit against LK doesn’t “absolve” her of his complaints.

[CanteringCarrot]

No one was charged with conspiracy which is a bit “funny” given that there were recordings!1!!11!!! and so much plotting, bombshells, planning, a fixation on the role of MHG, and whatever else. No one, including FitzE is saying that premeditation is required for a charge of attempted murder.

While the persecutor did succeed in making his case, it wasn’t guaranteed. We now know that he succeeded, but did he really go into it 100% knowing that he would succeed? There can always be that odd chance, especially with a jury, which is why people are referencing the OJ jury here, mainly. You want to go into any case fully armed. So if there was such strong evidence such as what was on these recordings, why didn’t the prosecutor use them? I really think it would’ve done nothing but strengthen his case, even if it wasn’t about conspiring. He might’ve gotten a straight up guilty because the tapes might have showed planning, coherent thought, and not necessarily insanity if they really say what LK & Co say they do. Inigo alluded to “insanity” being a cop out when they posted yesterday, after all.

The prosecution could’ve added conspiracy and/or other charges if these recordings say and are what the K’s say they are. So, a different case could’ve potentially been built, no?

Unless the tapes are a big nothing burger and/or inadmissible. So there’s that.

[CanteringCarrot]

Maybe I’m being daft, but why haven’t the recordings been released?

[MHM]

I have finally caught up on the thread again. I had to go back and take another look at the stuff from last night, since I was sure I had missed a few posts in the midst of all that frenetic activity.

Yowza. Quite a scene!

[OntheFnce]

And for some, Mouse Trap.

[CurrentlyHorseless]

@MHM

@omare

although he was found insane, he had the necessary intent to shoot her to trigger some contractual exclusion from coverage provision.

Where is the evidence that proves intent, though?

Where is the evidence that proves he ever actually touched that gun that day? No fingerprint evidence, no gunshot residue evidence. No one who saw him with a gun in his hand that day, other than the two people who both displayed their lack of credibility on the witness stand.

It will be interesting to see if the ineptitude of the police department that day ends up costing the insurance company money, on top of everything else.

The payout to LKs family would have been much higher if LK had died, so the police (and RG) reduced the award by a lot. Unless the insurance company settled for the limit of the policy.

[Virginia_Horse_Mom]

@CanteringCarrot

Unless the tapes are a big nothing burger and/or inadmissible. So there’s that

I assume that they are both a nothing burger AND inadmissible.

Also, if some of the tapes were of conversations that happened in MBs office, it would raise questions about LKs potential access when it comes to that office, and possible access when it comes to the safe. That combined with her texts claiming to have access to all of the above MIGHT have raised some problematic possibilities for the prosecution when it comes to possible questions about possession of the gun, and reasonable doubt.

[CanteringCarrot]

@CurrentlyHorseless

@MHM

@omare

although he was found insane, he had the necessary intent to shoot her to trigger some contractual exclusion from coverage provision.

Where is the evidence that proves intent, though?

Where is the evidence that proves he ever actually touched that gun that day? No fingerprint evidence, no gunshot residue evidence. No one who saw him with a gun in his hand that day, other than the two people who both displayed their lack of credibility on the witness stand.

It will be interesting to see if the ineptitude of the police department that day ends up costing the insurance company money, on top of everything else.

The payout to LKs family would have been much higher if LK had died, so the police (and RG) reduced the award by a lot. Unless the insurance company settled for the limit of the policy.

Well, that’s one f-ed up way to look at it.

Not wrong tho.

[CurrentlyHorseless]

@Virginia_Horse_Mom

@CanteringCarrot

Unless the tapes are a big nothing burger and/or inadmissible. So there’s that

I assume that they are both a nothing burger AND inadmissible.

Also, if some of the tapes were of conversations that happened in MBs office, it would raise questions about LKs potential access when it comes to that office, and possible access when it comes to the safe. That combined with her texts claiming to have access to all of the above MIGHT have raised some problematic possibilities for the prosecution when it comes to possible questions about possession of the gun, and reasonable doubt.

In what text did LK say she had access to the safe?

[CurrentlyHorseless]

@CanteringCarrot

@CurrentlyHorseless

@MHM

@omare

although he was found insane, he had the necessary intent to shoot her to trigger some contractual exclusion from coverage provision.

Where is the evidence that proves intent, though?

Where is the evidence that proves he ever actually touched that gun that day? No fingerprint evidence, no gunshot residue evidence. No one who saw him with a gun in his hand that day, other than the two people who both displayed their lack of credibility on the witness stand.

It will be interesting to see if the ineptitude of the police department that day ends up costing the insurance company money, on top of everything else.

The payout to LKs family would have been much higher if LK had died, so the police (and RG) reduced the award by a lot. Unless the insurance company settled for the limit of the policy.

Well, that’s one f-ed up way to look at it.

Not wrong tho.

The police and RG stopped the shooting before anyone died. It was one of the few positive aspects to this mess.

[SoCoPony]