I did not say he “sued” them. I said he filed a cross complaint against them when they sued him.
trubandloki: CurrentlyHorseless:The Lundbergs sued him and he filed a cross complaint against them.
So you are saying that you do not understand the difference between suing someone and filing a counter claim? Got it.
One is the person taking an action against someone. The other is a person responding to that action.
No. Defending against the first persons suit is responding to the action.
One can defend against a suit without filing your own suit against them.
Actually, asserting your own suit IS a way of defending yourself in addition to filing an Answer.
Duh.
ekat: CurrentlyHorseless:The court docket has filings of MBs cross complaint against the Lundbergs. He is described as “defendant snd cross complaint plaintiff”.
Where is there a lawsuit where MICHAEL BARISONE sued The Lundbergs as you asserted here:
CurrentlyHorseless:I also think his suing the Lundbergs claiming he was the sole or majority owner of SGF was a travesty—
Can you give me a link? A filing? Anything that proves what you claim?
I did not say he “sued” them. I said he filed a cross complaint against them when they sued him.
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I did not say he “sued” them . I said he filed a cross complaint against them when they sued him
That is still suing them. Just so ya know.
I did not say he “sued” them. I said he filed a cross complaint against them when they sued him.
So “weird”, that is not what you said in your post above, are you going to go edit it?
Edit to add random quotes and bolding.
I did not say he “sued” them. I said he filed a cross complaint against them when they sued him.
Are you sure….
It sure looks like you used a 5 letter word instead of a 5 letter and a 9 letter word.
I did not say he “sued” them. I said he filed a cross complaint against them when they sued him
Except you did. Twice. And said it was over ownership of SGF. Which is not even close to what the cross claim in Lauren Kanarek’s suit was about.
Sdel:Which makes no sense….unless you consider that they were altered or it was proof of, as the the defense attorney’s repeatedly stated, there were recordings they didn’t have.
I have said this before, but my guess is that KK’s transcripts were altered to fit LK’s narrative and to minimize any malfeasance on her part. You know, a little addition here, a little deletion there, perhaps a made-up recounting of a conversation or act that never happened - all for the purpose of constructing a “story” about how MB was not only bullying his clients, he was also (even worse) misbehaving toward minors on the farm. And since those transcripts were what was sent to SS to back up her complaint against MB, she had to make sure they focused on what she knew would get MB in trouble with SS - i.e., alleged inappropriate behavior regarding minors, perhaps even allegations of “grooming” of said minors. Remember, she knew that SS didn’t much care about the fact that he might be “bullying” AA clients, but instead was concerned primarily with the issue of sexual abuse of minors in sport. Altering the transcripts to help build that narrative would be right up her alley of constructing a “reality” to fit with the movies in her head.
And that is why they fought tooth and nail to prevent turning over the evidence that supports KK’s transcripts - because they knew the documents had been embellished and were either not faithful to the actual recordings that did exist, or the transcripts contained contrived conversations for which they had no empirical evidence (no recording to support said contrived conversations).
You, as I say, “hit the deadhead on the nail.” This is EXACTLY what I thought/am thinking about the “reluctance” to produce the transcripts. It was/is SO obvious to me.
Thank you for putting into words what a lot of us believe.
DownYonder: Sdel:Which makes no sense….unless you consider that they were altered or it was proof of, as the the defense attorney’s repeatedly stated, there were recordings they didn’t have.
I have said this before, but my guess is that KK’s transcripts were altered to fit LK’s narrative and to minimize any malfeasance on her part. You know, a little addition here, a little deletion there, perhaps a made-up recounting of a conversation or act that never happened - all for the purpose of constructing a “story” about how MB was not only bullying his clients, he was also (even worse) misbehaving toward minors on the farm. And since those transcripts were what was sent to SS to back up her complaint against MB, she had to make sure they focused on what she knew would get MB in trouble with SS - i.e., alleged inappropriate behavior regarding minors, perhaps even allegations of “grooming” of said minors. Remember, she knew that SS didn’t much care about the fact that he might be “bullying” AA clients, but instead was concerned primarily with the issue of sexual abuse of minors in sport. Altering the transcripts to help build that narrative would be right up her alley of constructing a “reality” to fit with the movies in her head.
And that is why they fought tooth and nail to prevent turning over the evidence that supports KK’s transcripts - because they knew the documents had been embellished and were either not faithful to the actual recordings that did exist, or the transcripts contained contrived conversations for which they had no empirical evidence (no recording to support said contrived conversations).
You, as I say, “hit the deadhead on the nail.” This is EXACTLY what I thought/am thinking about the “reluctance” to produce the transcripts. It was/is SO obvious to me.
Thank you for putting into words what a lot of us believe.
And with the level of “open mindedness” shown around here, it explains how one could pretend an altered “transcript” of a recording would mean that it wasn’t LK accusing MB of child abuse.
smoofox:It is - it is also something LK has claimed to aspire to… and if those tapes contained the bombshells or evidence she has always brayed that they do (as did IM and KK), she would have had zero hesitation in publicly posting everything. She would have done it with glee.
All we know is that she has not posted them.
You have no basis for claiming to know that she would have posted them “with glee” if they contained what she asserts.
There is no reason to post the recordings given that the court cases are over. Further, by posting them she could expose herself to fresh claims if it turns out there’s were illegally made.
It would be dumb for her to release the recordings, whether they say what she claims, or not.
With glee? Very likely - as she demonstrated over and over again with gleeful, threatening, merry posts here, on Facebook, on YT - anywhere and everywhere. She was gleeful that her bombshells would reveal/destroy everything. She was almost giddy about that at times and how her sheer genius would reveal all…
So yeah… just based on her previous words and actions, doing such a thing with great glee has an extremely high probability.
CurrentlyHorseless:I did not say he “sued” them . I said he filed a cross complaint against them when they sued him
That is still suing them. Just so ya know.
Thanks KM. As a non lawyer, I think filing a cross complaint is in essence suing, as you say.
But Ekat disagrees with calling a cross complaint as “suing”.
Let’s cede to Ekat her preferred terminology.
I don’t think she’ll post the recordings, with or without “glee”. It’s not rational or productive.
It’s not rational of productive.
Rational and productive are not really Lauren Kanarek (or so it appears any Kanarek) things, which she has proven time and time and time again. So something not being rational “or” productive is not likely a reason for Lauren to do or not do something.
Thanks KM. As a non lawyer, I think filing a cross complaint is in essence suing, as you say.
But Ekat disagrees with calling a cross complaint as “suing”.
Let’s cede to Ekat her preferred terminology
Show me a cross-claim that exists that says what you assert here:
And here:
And is not just a defense of the lawsuit that The Lundbergs filed. You do realize he’s allowed to defend himself, and that doesn’t count as “suing” the Lundbergs, nor is it a travesty, right?
It’s not the pleasure of hate but rather the pleasure of exposing the behavior of a person who takes immense pleasure in belittling, demeaning, debasing, defaming, demonizing, stalking, harassing, bullying, tormenting, and genuinely trying to DESTROY other folks. In fact, such actions seem to be her main “raison d’etre.”
And it speaks volumes about the kind of folks that have shown themselves to always be willing to rush in to defend her and try to “protect” her.
For the love of God, just IGNORE her!
For the Love of God, some lies can not just be IGNORED!
Well, that someone will be posting to the wind as far as I am concerned.
- MB had declined to offer her the apartment in Spring 2019
He did decline to offer her the apartment in the spring of 2019!
IIRC, she even posted it herself and then bragged that her Daddy “fixed” it and she “won” because MB kicked Justin out and gave them his apartment—the one where he had lived for 10+ years!