Nick Peronace Dressage

I’ve got some Crown Royal.

Showed GP at a schooling show? And that’s it? Wowza. You do understand, Nick, that most schooling show judges are qualified to judge Second Level and lower, right?

Your Appaloosa’s muscling (or lack thereof) speaks volumes.

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Well, I called it! Settling in with some popcorn with BigBayHanoMare, this read is going to be good!

Interesting Facebook page. Can’t spell Steffen Peters’ name, either.

In Mr. Nick’s defense, there is one nice photo of him on a dark horse. Would prefer to see photos like that, rather than the out of focus/dark ones of Chevy.

:lol:

[Quote-Nick Peronace-]
I dont playing some of you for being skeptical simply because I do not compete. I did once, but was on an Appaloosa and after one schooling show at Grand Prix and scoring very low, I realized politics were against me and I became more focused on the art of dressage, not so obsessed with ribbons and trophies.[ End Quote]

Sorry Sir-This is not a place to engage in a Pity Party. Blaming your score on your horse’s breed just won’t work. Most judges at schooling shows are a kinder than the same judge at a recognized show. Not a whole lot, but a little.

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The “off breed” debate gets a bit old at times. I have one of my off-breeds competing and winning against the big WBs at rated shows (even Regional Championships in a competitive region). I have friends that ride Fresians, Paints and even a Fjord!! They all do well, but they all ride very nice accurate tests.

I think going to one schooling show, getting a low score and then blaming the judge for breed bias just says it all for me about the person making the statement.

[QUOTE=Blume Farm;7338376]
The “off breed” debate gets a bit old at times. I have one of my off-breeds competing and winning against the big WBs at rated shows (even Regional Championships in a competitive region). I have friends that ride Fresians, Paints and even a Fjord!! They all do well, but they all ride very nice accurate tests.

I think going to one schooling show, getting a low score and then blaming the judge for breed bias just says it all for me about the person making the statement.[/QUOTE]

Also that you are a “grand prix” rider/clinician and have only ridden 1 horse to any (questionable level of ) success.

But he started the town watch so I guess that is a positive thing to say! http://www.bsmphilly.com/2012/sep/26/5991-town-watch-expands-in-ne.html/#.UsCXjbSQmlo

The way I look at it, someone had to take dragonharte/spirithorse’s place after he got banned. We got us a winner! :yes:

ETA: I guess he didn’t get banned did he? But he did take his bitless bridle and go home…

If he is a trainer to beginner riders, I’m not sure how experienced he needs to be in Dressage.

Most of his students won’t even know the difference, just happy to ride a safe horse in a pretty black dressage saddle, and get introduced to a new sport. They may figure it out after a few thousand dollars are thrown down the tubes but hey, same with yoga, golf, and tennis.

I wish him all the best.

[QUOTE=Eggplant_Dressing;7338534]
If he is a trainer to beginner riders, I’m not sure how experienced he needs to be in Dressage.

Most of his students won’t even know the difference, just happy to ride a safe horse in a pretty black dressage saddle, and get introduced to a new sport. They may figure it out after a few thousand dollars are thrown down the tubes but hey, same with yoga, golf, and tennis.

I wish him all the best.[/QUOTE]

I don’t know if I agree. He’s racist, homophobic, and rude. I wouldn’t wish him anything pleasant.

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About half of the trainers, horse dealers, barn owners, and farriers I’ve met are the same. All he’ll have to do is find a few wealthy and gullible newbies and he’ll be set for at least a few years.

Who knows, he may be entertaining at clinics. Sometimes personality and snarky comments are worth the admission. Especially at a $10 price.

so, Opening Poster, will you go? :smiley:

I did find s semblance of credentials his clinic organizer advertised: “His history is jumping 4ft and 5ft courses and eventing at Preliminary level before making a complete change over to Dressage. He was a working student for three years for Lorenda Lende. Has Cliniced with some of the best trainers in the world such as: Robert Dover, Klaus Bekenhol, Bettina Drummond, Joao Oliveira. Is a student of Baucher. Trained his own Appaloosa “Chevy” to Grand Prix Dressage and master of Airs Above Ground. “Chevy” is recognized every year at Dressage at Devon with the “Chevy Cup” given to the highest scoring non warmblood from Prix St George to Grand Prix. Has recently been asked by ‘Dressage Today’ to start writing training articles. Has a book coming out in 2014”

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[QUOTE=beowulf;7338337]
Well, I called it! Settling in with some popcorn with BigBayHanoMare, this read is going to be good![/QUOTE]

I’ll bring some nice, warm blankets if you bring pillows!

I’m sure his classical background loooves his pro-rollkur stance, too.

I have ridden in clinics with Kathy Connelly, Felicitas Von Neumann Cosel, Suzanne Von Dietze, Cathy Morelli and Jessica Ransehousen. I would have no place billing myself to conduct a clinic or a lesson:)

And I think I spelled everyone’s names correctly! Klaus Bekenhol??? Geesh, if I was posting a “press release” for a professional event I would at least Google their names and spell check.

[QUOTE=NJRider;7338603]
I did find s semblance of credentials his clinic organizer advertised: “His history is jumping 4ft and 5ft courses and eventing at Preliminary level before making a complete change over to Dressage. He was a working student for three years for Lorenda Lende. Has Cliniced with some of the best trainers in the world such as: Robert Dover, Klaus Bekenhol, Bettina Drummond, Joao Oliveira. Is a student of Baucher. Trained his own Appaloosa “Chevy” to Grand Prix Dressage and master of Airs Above Ground. “Chevy” is recognized every year at Dressage at Devon with the “Chevy Cup” given to the highest scoring non warmblood from Prix St George to Grand Prix. Has recently been asked by ‘Dressage Today’ to start writing training articles. Has a book coming out in 2014”[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=NJRider;7338603]
I did find s semblance of credentials his clinic organizer advertised: “His history is jumping 4ft and 5ft courses and eventing at Preliminary level before making a complete change over to Dressage. He was a working student for three years for Lorenda Lende. Has Cliniced with some of the best trainers in the world such as: Robert Dover, Klaus Bekenhol, Bettina Drummond, Joao Oliveira. Is a student of Baucher. Trained his own Appaloosa “Chevy” to Grand Prix Dressage and master of Airs Above Ground. “Chevy” is recognized every year at Dressage at Devon with the “Chevy Cup” given to the highest scoring non warmblood from Prix St George to Grand Prix. Has recently been asked by ‘Dressage Today’ to start writing training articles. Has a book coming out in 2014”[/QUOTE]

A quick USEA rider search doesn’t turn up anyone registered with them with his last name, so I have to wonder about the eventing “experience.” I’ve never seen an unrecognized event run Prelim, and you need to be a USEA member for anything above Beginner Novice.

I will bear in mind, in planning my upcoming show year, that I can just show at whatever level I’d like under an L judge, blame breed bias for my score, and refer to myself as a PSG rider, who happened to get low scores from terribly prejudiced scores. Then maybe I can give a few clinics!

No, I don’t think I’ll be attending unless I am hard up for entertainment that weekend. As other posters have already pointed out we have some amazing talent and educational opportunities in our little frozen chunk of the Midwest. Hell, we have some of our own resident charlatans, we don’t need to ship them in :smiley:

In the bigger picture though, as an AA this crap pisses me off. The number of people who wake up one day and decide that they want to hock their wares without putting the sweat and passion into it to be the genuine thing… Blech.

If there is one thing I’ve learned in the horse industry it is to run, not walk, away from anyone who ridicules others to build themselves up. Actually, that works in life too.

Also, to the man himself. I read that you have trained 14 horses to Grand Prix and it takes you only two years to do so. Were they all Appaloosas or…?

[QUOTE=DoubleTwistedWire;7338775]

I will bear in mind, in planning my upcoming show year, that I can just show at whatever level I’d like under an L judge, blame breed bias for my score, and refer to myself as a PSG rider, who happened to get low scores from terribly prejudiced scores. Then maybe I can give a few clinics![/QUOTE]

I did point out to someone that with a few well placed friends with umbrellas, I could probably get pirouettes, you are welcome to use this little trick in your plan, lol.

[QUOTE=NJRider;7338603]
I did find s semblance of credentials his clinic organizer advertised: “His history is jumping 4ft and 5ft courses and eventing at Preliminary level before making a complete change over to Dressage. He was a working student for three years for Lorenda Lende. Has Cliniced with some of the best trainers in the world such as: Robert Dover, Klaus Bekenhol, Bettina Drummond, Joao Oliveira. Is a student of Baucher. Trained his own Appaloosa “Chevy” to Grand Prix Dressage and master of Airs Above Ground. “Chevy” is recognized every year at Dressage at Devon with the “Chevy Cup” given to the highest scoring non warmblood from Prix St George to Grand Prix. Has recently been asked by ‘Dressage Today’ to start writing training articles. Has a book coming out in 2014”[/QUOTE]

I had no idea we were being addressed by the voice of a reborn late great dressage icon who started his career as an event rider, albeit having progressed to Advanced rather than Preliminary and then went on to be a Grand Prix rider, master, and trainer.

Listen up , COTHers. You are missing a lifetime opportunity.:winkgrin::winkgrin:

I know I’m new here but hate to see you miss this. :smiley:

Also, to the man himself. I read that you have trained 14 horses to Grand Prix and it takes you only two years to do so. Were they all Appaloosas or…?

Well, if they are appies you just have to get them a book on dressage.