Nick Peronace Dressage

[DoubleTwistedWire]

[QUOTE=Nick Peronace;7341729]
The last show I went to was in 1998, I was just 17 and took Chevy to a schooli.g show at Grand Prix. I was thinking of competing Rec next, but we scored a 58% and I thought that was to low to be taken serious. I then got into the “Art” and airs and so on, instead of the show ring.[/QUOTE]

You do realize you only need 60% at GP for your gold medal, right? If you’d been working with anyone on that list of people you’d trained with, they would have told you that a 58% the first time out at that level was NOT a problematic score.

Why didn’t you show at a lower level before (or after!) trying GP, or the YR programs, which at 17 you’d have qualified for? I get that showing isn’t a priority for some people, but most of them like to have SOME SORT of record at a level, especially if they’re working GP.

[Nick_Peronace]

[QUOTE=alternate_universe;7341707]
Please list the names of trainers you learned from and the years you spent with them. Also, please list the names of any riders and horses you’ve trained that are presently competing at recognized shows to attest to your training skills.

Also explain why a “world renowned” trainer such as yourself has to cold call barns to schedule clinics.[/QUOTE]

Thank you for your question. For the past 11yrs I have been out of the horse world. I got married and started a family and financially gave them priority. Only this past year have I got back into my passion, and I have many students up and coming. I think the spring should be fun come show season, but again, showing isnt my thing. If you are looking for that trainer who can Pete’s 10 horses every weekend and has 20 students in every level look elsewhere. I am simply not competitive nor are my students. Certainly I will have students to compete in the spring and I’m very excited to see what happens, but in the same breath I’m not obsessed about it.
Trainers, I have worked with several unknown but still very good trainers. I am a largely self taught individual but if I had to pick a trainer who had the most influence on me, it would be Lorinda Lende who competes at Grand Prix. I was an on again/off again working student for her for three years during my high school teen years. My holidays and weekends were spent living on her farm. Lorinda did NOT TRAIN ME to Grand Prix. Lets maks that clear, as she remains a friend of mine to this day and someone I think very highly of. But what she DID give me was a fantastic education in horse care, biomechanics, the muscles, and understanding when the horse is correct. Her school masters gave me a feel, and I in turn took that feel and try to recreate it on Chevy.
Another teacher is still Baucher and Nuno Oliveria. Those two I study alot on, and have had a really big impact on my technique today. I had the pleasure to have personally worked one time with Joao Oliveria at a clinic, and the man loved my thoughts on lightness and his fathers teaching.
I continue my education by going to clinics. I had a great opportunity when I was only 14 years old and I sat next to Robert Dover at Devon 95. He sat next to him all-day-long and he absolutely got the biggest kick out of this kid who soaked up every word that man said lolol!!!

[katarine]

Where may we see video of you riding recently, at any level, on any horse?

[Nick_Peronace]

Oh, and I cold call barns because:
A-it works
B-im trying to make a living
C-im looking for new students with a go getum Attitude there’s nothing wrong with gumption

[abrant]

Can you address your claims that you have trained 14 horses to Grand Prix and that you are able to do this in 2 years?

[KurPlexed]

Since 1998 can you give a list of YOUR students who have shown above Second at Rec shows?

Where have you been since 1998? Where have you been training out of? Since 1998 which other horse have you advanced and why have you not shown that horse?

[alternate_universe]

[QUOTE=abrant;7341770]
Can you address your claims that you have trained 14 horses to Grand Prix and that you are able to do this in 2 years?[/QUOTE]

And provide the names of any of those horses. Also, how can you say you trained them to GP if you never showed them? There is no objective evidence that those horses could successfully complete GP movements with no scores.

[Nick_Peronace]

Oh, and I cold call barns because:
A-it works
B-im trying to make a living
C-im looking for new students with a go getum Attitude there’s nothing wrong with gumption

[Nick_Peronace]

[ I will be working with someone shortly and assembling a youtube account, yes. =fatorangehorse;7341717]Mr. Peronace,

I give you credit for engaging in the dialogue. Can you post any recent video links to you riding? That is something we can easily access for any other clinician coming to our areas. It would help people to feel more comfortable coming to pay you to ride or audit a clinic.[/QUOTE]

[KurPlexed]

Can you post the video of you doing passage on your app here on the COTH?

[alternate_universe]

You can upload videos to Facebook. Kellydressage even said she has atleast one video of you riding. Can’t she post that?

[Nick_Peronace]

[QUOTE=alternate_universe;7341738]
So, instead of going back to a lower level and showing in that and likely getting better scores, you quit showing altogether? You do realize that without any show scores and no videos there is really no way to prove to potential clients that you can ride at any given level?[/QUOTE]
Not everyone is superficial or hung up on scores. Some people are willing to try something because they have an open mind. Ever single clinic I book is based on the notion that they are giving me an opportunity and so far no one has been disappointed. It is a good thing not everyone is so obsessed about competition otherwise masters like Nuno or Baucher would never be known today. Nuno was discovered he did not compete

[Manahmanah]

So in summary you spent 3 years as a working student, quit riding when you were 21 after never having successfully shown anything at all, come back over a decade later and decide the best course of action is not to continue your very limited education but to hang up your shingle and market yourself as a maestro haute ecole grand prix dressage trainer.

Just making sure I have the whole picture here.

[alternate_universe]

So far we have…

• Trainer with no show experience or any students with show experience
• No video of him or students riding
• No explanation of the GP horses he said he trained

Why should any person pay to ride with you when there are dozens of other trainers with show records, USDF medals, and successful students out there? That’s an honest question, not snark. Why should someone pick you clinic over say, Lendon Grey or someone else?

[Nick_Peronace]

[QUOTE=DoubleTwistedWire;7341760]
You do realize you only need 60% at GP for your gold medal, right? If you’d been working with anyone on that list of people you’d trained with, they would have told you that a 58% the first time out at that level was NOT a problematic score.

Why didn’t you show at a lower level before (or after!) trying GP, or the YR programs, which at 17 you’d have qualified for? I get that showing isn’t a priority for some people, but most of them like to have SOME SORT of record at a level, especially if they’re working GP.[/QUOTE]

I did not know that know. I thought I had to score well into the 60s or 70s. Still, I like the path I took, and I’m happy I stepped out of the show ring. If I had not, then I would never have picked up Alois Podhajkys book, The Complete Training Of Horse And Rider, and started experimenting with the airs above ground. Everyday I worked on it and found out what worked and what did not work. Chevy certainly got a real charge out of it and when he knew what we were doing he would start bunny hopping in place :))

[Nick_Peronace]

[QUOTE=Manahmanah;7341819]
So in summary you spent 3 years as a working student, quit riding when you were 21 after never having successfully shown anything at all, come back over a decade later and decide the best course of action is not to continue your very limited education but to hang up your shingle and market yourself as a maestro haute ecole grand prix dressage trainer.

Just making sure I have the whole picture here.[/QUOTE]

I have NEVER called myself maestro! In training Chevy to Airs, plus working with many horsrs at all levels has given me a wonderful education. “My horse, my teacher”- Alois Podhajky. I would be happy to come out and show you my education and what I could do for you, but you sound like your mind is made up. Still, Id be happy to work with you if you are ever ready

[alternate_universe]

If you were teaching your horse airs based on a book how did you verify you were doing it correctly? Did you have any guidance from another trainer who was already experienced in haute ecole movements?

When you go to clinics what group of riders do you generally get placed with? Other upper level riders? How do you tell the clinician what group to put you in?

[Nick_Peronace]

[QUOTE=alternate_universe;7341836]
So far we have…

• Trainer with no show experience or any students with show experience
• No video of him or students riding
• No explanation of the GP horses he said he trained

Why should any person pay to ride with you when there are dozens of other trainers with show records, USDF medals, and successful students out there? That’s an honest question, not snark. Why should someone pick you clinic over say, Lendon Grey or someone else?[/QUOTE]

I have already answered this question.

[alternate_universe]

Training a single horse “to airs” does not make you a haute ecole or GP trainer. You have yet to explain the reported 14 horses you also trained to GP. If you can prove any other horses, other than Chevy, were trained to GP level by you, we’d have a different story.

[Joanne]

Can you list the dates and places of your 2014 clinics?