Novice needs advices on naughty horse (We have a baby!)

Stallion is 16.2, the same as our mare and down the stallions line everybody is about the same size. Mare has some a bit higher in her pedigree, but nothing exciting.

We were trying to make good average size jumper - easy to ride, happy to jump. The main goal - rideability and sweet temperament thus being a nice hobby horse (The idea is - if, if, if… it would be a horse for Sonora when she will be 11 or 12 - the right size and homegrown - they already are the best friends). So far seems that filly will be like her mother - yesterday in field she tried every jump, and was jumping in front of mother, so seems like she will like jumping.

Sonora is getting only milk and eating grass as well… Maybe it is grass? After the birth my vet said to watch out - after a week or so some ribs must become visible and then it is time for additional portions of mash. So far I can not see anything at all - mare looks quite good and baby is not ribby as well.

The supper friendly… we are working on it, nearly every day. Sapphire is doing well at her lead training and learning voice commands (if she would act crazy, I would not let Sonora do the training - Sapphire is very friendly already, loves cuddles and kisses, is easy to catch, gives legs and so on - things that yearling must to do) and the second training goal is get both babies used to everything - yesterday Peter, for example, took Shella in the house and both babies followed - over the little wooden bridge (hollow sounds will help later on loading in trailer), through the narrow hall and into the dining room - around the table and out again. Nothing exciting, but again - by our opinion, it may help in future. Around the riding paddock we have plastic bags hanging and flapping, cars going past and and we ask our neighbor not to be polite and avoid horses with tractor but go directly in full sound near them. We also have helicopters flying over on daily basic… all these little things help to make non spooky, bombproof horse in future - at least it is my theory. I do not know, is it right or not but that we do with all our rescues and seems that it is working. Peter is now looking for cheap second hand sound system so we can add music to riding paddock - in shows we noticed that many horses have problem with loud speakers.

Shella is very sweet horse and she is teaching babies the same way as well so all in all so far all goes well.

I have not been here in a long time. My goodness, how far you all have come since you took in the big guy! Congratulations on Sheila’s new filly, on your new rescue filly, and on Guido’s success so far at the trainers. Everyone looks terrific, Anna! Condolences to Peter on his father’s passing. I hope today is a better one for him.

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Around the riding paddock we have plastic bags hanging and flapping, cars going past and and we ask our neighbor not to be polite and avoid horses with tractor but go directly in full sound near them. We also have helicopters flying over on daily basic… all these little things help to make non spooky, bombproof horse in future - at least it is my theory. I do not know, is it right or not but that we do with all our rescues and seems that it is working.[/QUOTE]

This is such a wise thing to do, and will absolutely create horses that are not easily startled or spooky. Anna, you should know by now that you are no longer a novice, but an expert.

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If somebody wants to look at showjumping event - here - here is the link to pictures of the showjumping event for beginners on last Saturday
There are 10 pages of pictures :)[/QUOTE]

What in the world is in the box and was it part of the prize? It looks like a chicken?

Sonora II is looking wonderful! I am so in love (probably because she reminds me of my mare and the looks she gives me, same as Sonora). I think you will have little choice in the future of those two :wink:

In the box is rabbit. :slight_smile: (I had not asked about the breed, but they were definitely purebreed rabits with tatoos and papers). Winners of 3 “children” height rounds had rabbit as a prize as well as some tack. As all participants there were from rural areas, it was a funny present, and not a burden of unwanted pet. At least I know 2 winners out of 3, and everybody was excited - from trainers to little sisters and brothers.

Tomorrow Sonora II will be a month old. So far so good :slight_smile: I had not realized that rising a foal is such a fun, pleasure and plain happiness. Now I know!

Sonora II
http://i450.photobucket.com/albums/qq222/ozolkalni/28-06-09/PICT2778.jpg

3 girls
http://i450.photobucket.com/albums/qq222/ozolkalni/28-06-09/PICT2793.jpg

SonoraII and Sapphire
http://i450.photobucket.com/albums/qq222/ozolkalni/28-06-09/PICT2765.jpg

Sapphire
http://i450.photobucket.com/albums/qq222/ozolkalni/28-06-09/PICT2738.jpg

Sonora with our dogs
http://i450.photobucket.com/albums/qq222/ozolkalni/28-06-09/PICT2813.jpg

Sonora on Shella
http://i450.photobucket.com/albums/qq222/ozolkalni/28-06-09/PICT2844.jpg

http://i450.photobucket.com/albums/qq222/ozolkalni/28-06-09/PICT2851.jpg

Peter playing with Sapphire
http://i450.photobucket.com/albums/qq222/ozolkalni/28-06-09/PICT2858.jpg

Sonora running
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1dwrxn0-Wcw&feature=channel_page

Sapphire
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DP9qEggL4Cs&feature=channel

If you see something seriously wrong with Sapphire, please, let me know.

Nothing exciting to report, it is hot and dry here, so trainings go at late evenings
We are hoping that Guido soon will enter first small showjumping event, on 80 cm, not higher

http://i450.photobucket.com/albums/qq222/ozolkalni/30-06-09/PICT3018.jpg

Anna - your pictures are lovely! This thread is one of my all-time favorites. :yes:

Halter training

As Sonora II is over a month now, we had started halter training. I do not know how to do it right so if you have any tips I would be thankful. With one foal it is great fun, but if we shall have more, our way might be too much - time consuming. But Sonora II so far really likes the halter fun.

Here is our way :slight_smile:

Long lecture about how fashionable fancy halters look on red girls :slight_smile:
http://i450.photobucket.com/albums/qq222/ozolkalni/02-07-09/PICT3252.jpg

Then showing that Peter would like to wear it by himself but it does not fit
http://i450.photobucket.com/albums/qq222/ozolkalni/02-07-09/PICT3253.jpg

Then trying out how nice halters smell (we rubbed it all over Shella)
http://i450.photobucket.com/albums/qq222/ozolkalni/02-07-09/PICT3254.jpg

See, it does not hurt
http://i450.photobucket.com/albums/qq222/ozolkalni/02-07-09/PICT3244.jpg

You can try it this way
http://i450.photobucket.com/albums/qq222/ozolkalni/02-07-09/PICT3217.jpg

or this
http://i450.photobucket.com/albums/qq222/ozolkalni/02-07-09/PICT3230.jpg

Do you feel cool now?
http://i450.photobucket.com/albums/qq222/ozolkalni/02-07-09/PICT3219.jpg

I think this is the best way, do you?
http://i450.photobucket.com/albums/qq222/ozolkalni/02-07-09/PICT3204.jpg

Maybe red brush will suit better?
http://i450.photobucket.com/albums/qq222/ozolkalni/02-07-09/PICT3193.jpg

yeah, you look cool, indeed!
http://i450.photobucket.com/albums/qq222/ozolkalni/02-07-09/PICT3201.jpg

What all this fuss is about?
http://i450.photobucket.com/albums/qq222/ozolkalni/02-07-09/PICT3237.jpg

That was all, no real fun?
http://i450.photobucket.com/albums/qq222/ozolkalni/02-07-09/PICT3260.jpg

Lesson is over
http://i450.photobucket.com/albums/qq222/ozolkalni/02-07-09/PICT3268.jpg

It wasn’t bad, was it?
http://i450.photobucket.com/albums/qq222/ozolkalni/02-07-09/PICT3282.jpg

Absolutely adorable!!! :slight_smile:

Thanks for sharing.

Yesterday I went for a trip abroad :slight_smile: My vet was going to pick up her mare from a TR stud farm in Lithuania, and I went along. So I had a great horsey day, saw Russian border and nearly 500 horse.

If you would like to visit Nemunas stud farm with me, go to album
http://s450.photobucket.com/albums/qq222/ozolkalni/09-07-09nemunas/?start=20

There are pages with over 100 pictures of horses there. Along with their main stock - TR, they also breed Lithuanian draft horses - very heavy, with nearly white manes and tails, calm and co-operative multitask horses.

Actually I was surprised how good character these horses have - usually TR are known as hot ones, but there… Imagine feeling when entering pastures on 4X4, driving along to search for herd on thousands of acres, stop and look at 80 or hundred horses running towards you to say hello.

So wild and scary at the beginning, so fascinating and actually great feeling when they all carefully approach for a cuddle and hug, pushing each other away with jealousy.

And as you can see in some pictures, there is one paddock where they keep horses and cattle together… and they are getting well together.

So again - it was great, great trip :slight_smile:

What is a TR? Trakehner?

Yes, TR stands for trakenhers like HN for Hanoverian. You do not use that abbr.? Sorry, did not know that. BTW, Horalas is from that farm, and Veimaras, Horalas sire, currently is here, just 100 km away from me. Tempting, isn’t it? I have one mare here with Piligrim as well, and it would be interesting match. Oh, why you can not get it all? :smiley:

Oh those pictures! I am in love!! I’ll take two of those drafts please.:smiley:

I just love the halter training pictures!

That’s very cool, I love trakehners (as you may guess!)

TR makes sense, I just mostly see it abbreviated as Traks

BTW I have also heard the “hot” reputation, but have not personally experienced it, mine is anything but :lol:
I am also surprised to hear that reputation us where you are also, as I understood that reputation is predominantly in North American traks and that is related to some of the blood that is here!

Thanks for sharing the lovely pictures.

I have one half trak mare, Inka … and in Latvian “traks” mean crazy, mad… :smiley: so right - she is a character - DH rides her bareback, with halter, but strangers can fly high and far… If she CAN throw you, she will definitely TRY to :slight_smile: Even Puika never tried to back or rear with rider - Inka would try all the tricks at once :slight_smile: But she loves kisses and cuddles - she can take these all day long.

Anyway, I actually just wanted post a small update - today Guido and Giva returned home. it was Guido’s third trip with us - first time when he arrived, second time when went to trainer a month ago and today when he returned.

First time it was 6 men and 4 hours hopeless battle to convince him that he can walk into the trailer. They gave up, called vet, injection and then he loaded - his legs needed to be lifted then. Overall loading time - 6 hours.

Second time I did not take risks so before trailer arrived, my vet already gave him calming injection, and it was 15 minutes mild battle then, only 3 people involved.

Today - we just opened trailer, Giva went in first (she has no big experience, but she is a lady anyway) and then Peter walked Guido in, just walked in (no injections, no vets, no even a whip involved, nothing)… Overall loading time for both horses - less than 5 minutes… casual, easy and simple. I still can not believe how simply it was.

And then the second act followed - unloaded these two, and loaded Shella and little foal for the trip to vet (saves walking 3 miles, and gives foal the first experience of short, simple trip).

Shella loads easy, she is well traveled lady, she had spent her best years at showjumping events, so we had not worried about her. But for foal it is the first trip.

So… walked Shella in (easy), foal followed by herself instantly, calm and happy, and the same at the other end - Shella walked out, foal followed, calm and happy, ears pricked, came to us for cuddles and kisses, looked around, nickered at vet’s horses and the same casual way walked in their new box. Simple and easy.

During the trip Peter stayed in box with them both to be sure that foal is ok and safe with the cross bar, and as our trainer laughed - he was the only one who was nervous about the loading and trip. Foal thought that it was nice fun.

So our “stable girl” and “head trainer” - my 6 yo niece Sonora will get a big ice cream for all the training that she had done with the foal so far - all is done just perfect!

I know it is silly be happy about such a simple thing, but at the same time… It is such a great feeling when somebody like Guido with messed up past learns that life is not a scary battle but just plain pleasure.

Loved the pics…

“Long lecture about how fashionable fancy halters look on red girls.”

This caption was hysterical! :lol::lol::lol::lol:

Life is an interesting thing. Never say never… I said it many times… and now it is happening.
Next week I’m bringing home a stallion.

He is 16 yo HN, registered and had certificates with flying colors, then sold, and now he needs rehoming ASAP.

I have 5 mares at home (Sonora is 2 mo, then comes yearling Sapphira and 3 adult girls - Giva, Inka and Shella) and 2 geldings. Hopefully season is over and I do not need worry much now, but I never had “stallion at home” experience before.

On the positive note - stallion is super sweet and calm boy, had been ridden by children all his life (he had jumped up to 1.40 cm at shows when he was younger). Last summer he was carrying children at amusement park (can it be more wrong? But it worked with him perfect).

At present his legs are in poor condition as he had not seen farrier for a very long time, his teeth must be done as well as deworming, but that’s about all. He is neglected by the lack of knowledge but very loved.

His current owners are two underage girls who takes care of him and ride. He has a buddy - a gelding, and gets well with other horses in general.

Before he was sold to these people, he was in large boarding stable where he was ridden at lessons along with mares on season, and also was going to showjumping events with mares around - and in both situations had been ridden by children without any troubles.

So in general he is a sweet pet horse instead of being a hot stallion, but anyway I would like to hear things that I must take into account by getting ready for a stallion at my place.

Here is him yesterday

http://s450.photobucket.com/albums/qq222/ozolkalni/22-07-09Daugav/

(the first picture shows him 4 years ago at the local showjumping event)

and video

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XJOc0AvyAyk&feature=channel_page

Using him for breeding is another story, must do a lot of research on his offsprings, who had been born on 2000-2002 (he is coming along with his certificates and foal register so I will be able to trace them all). Then I will make my decision, probably next spring or so. This is not my main concern at present moment.
His pedigree is here
http://www.allbreedpedigree.com/daugavietis

Anna dear. You’ve taken on a lot and done very well. However, stallion ownership is not something I would recommend. :no:

Your fencing will have to be impenetrable and HOT. He will have to be pastured well away from the mares and only with Puika. Your mares will also go nuts when they’re in season and do what they can to get to him.

So, if you do decide to bring him home, have the vet there the same day to geld him. A nice stallion makes a fantastic gelding. :cool: