:winkgrin: Good for you! And yes, I had a much smaller version of your problem. You see when I bought a horse, I didn’t know this chick would come with him. Let’s call her ‘Pat’ or ‘Chris’, if you get my drift would stalk me when I come to the barn. Luckily, the BO said that she’s not insured to be on the property and I told her so and she backed off.
You’re not from around Richmond, VA are you?
Fleur-don’t think for a second that anything you do or any other factor attracts crazies, it is something in the other person that causes this and nothing you do or don’t do will change that. From what I’ve heard and read there are delusional people that spend their entire lives harassing others and there is nothing their targets did that made them focus on that one person. Maybe this nut case will get the point, but if she doesn’t you seem to have a good support system and a lot of common sense-so keep your head up and hopefully this will end now.
I once worked with a man who was just another person at the office, until on my birthday there was a small box on my desk-it was a very expensive gold locket that had “I Love You” inscribed on it, and I was totally horrified. I gave it back and made it totally clear in front of witnesses that I would not accept the gift, and that he was not to bother me in the future. He left soon and never heard from him again.
Good for you, hopefully this fruit bat will now realize that your parents will seek legal action if need be. Did you guys look to see if she has a record of any sort?
I was stalked years ago by a coworker. And let me tell you it was creepy. He was about 8 years younger than me and engaged. :eek: His fiancee (and he did have one because she came in to see him now and then), lived in another state. A group of us would hang out together and he and I became good friends.
I had inivted a few people up to watch a movie at my friend’s house that I was housesitting at, including him. When everyone left, he stayed behind. In the back of my mind, I knew something wasn’t right, but I played dumb. Just told him that I was going to bed and good night. He did leave.
A few nights later (still housesitting…and this house was wayyyyy off the road in the woods), I was talking to a friend on the phone, when I saw a shadow go across the deck…my heart sunk, I reluctantly looked outside (these were about 8 french doors)…and there he was peering in and me and the damn dog standing beside him wagging his tail. Part of me was relieved that at least I knew who the person was and part of me was very creeped out. I let him in, once again, I played blonde. He stayed for awhile and then left.
He finally told me one night that he had hoped to spend the night with me both those nights…I nicely explained to him (wasn’t attracted to him AT ALL), that he was engaged and I would NOT do anything like that to his girlfirend and he shouldn’t even be thinking about this. He “agreed”
Well…it didn’t end there. I would have to hide my car in the apartment parking lot so he wouldn’t know I was home, if he came to the door, my roommate would tell him that I wasn’t there.
A couple weeks later I was housesitting again (same house)…he called me and really creeped me out…told me that he knew exactly which room I was sitting in when I was talking to him (I know he logically guessed, but still it was creepy)…I set the alarm that night. Nothing like being creeped out in a 6000square foot house in the woods.
One weekend my college roommate was in town…and he knew this because I had talked about it at work. She and I left to go out to dinner. Came home and saw a pair of man legs sitting on the couch…I assumed it was my current roommate’s boyfriend. When he stood up, I literally screamed…it scared the crap out of me. My stupid roommate had left and allowed him to come in and wait for us.
That was the final straw. I told him that enough was enough. He did leave. At that point, I had to talk to another person at work about him (I was also a public school teacher and this friend was my music rep for school)…This friend was very worried and actually went to the TOP about the situation.
Later that evening, the store manager (my friend) called me and asked me why the hell had I not told him this was going on…apparently other things were going on as well in the store (stealing)…so they fired him.
Didn’t see him after that until…
The second new Star Wars had come out and my new boyfriend and I went to go see it…and as we opened the theatre doors, I ran slam into him…he gave me a dirty look. At that point he and the girlfriend were married. And of course they sat two rows down from us and he kept whispering and she kept looking back at me. My boyfriend (now husband) was starring him down (I had told him the story). My guess is, that he had told her a completely DIFFERENT story, me as the vilian.
So yes, you did the right thing by taking this seriously. I hope this ends it for you.
Fleur, YOU GO GIRL!!! I am so proud of you for taking the steps you have to protect your horse and to act grown up and so responsibly.
Aside from all the craziness to begin with, I have to admit that this is by far one of the most entertaining threads I have read in a long time.
Keep us posted and let us know if you hear anything else from her.
It sounds like you’re doing the right things, OP. Being stalked is definitely scary, whether it’s you personally or your horse. I just wanted to reaffirm what a couple of others have said which is: do not worry about being polite or smoothing things over. Tell her once, clearly, that this is unacceptable (which it sounds like you have) and then ignore future communications unless you are advised otherwise by your lawyer. A lot of us women especially have it so ingrained in us to play nice, or to feel obligated to respond, that it really feeds these crazies and encourages them to keep it up.
I hope she turns out to be harmless and easily dissuaded. Good luck!
Tommy a/k/a Winston is going to be more famous than Kade and Supernatural.
I do hope this ends well.
I’d photograph Tommy’s chestnuts with a digital camera also. They are supposed to be unique to the horse, altho I’ve never know a crime lab person to compare them, as the fingerprint experts compare fingerprints.
Watch out for the fruitbat driving by the pasture. The stories you are hearing from other posters are very common, both with people stalking people and people coveting animals.
Well done.
You are doing all the right things.
A few more suggestions,
Photograph Tommy all over.Not just both sides and face / hind end, include close ups of any scars, marks or whirls., particularily neck and face whirls, a these are unique to any horse as well as any unsuall marks, any white hairs everything that stands out. Date them and give a signed copy to your lawyer uncle for safe keeping. This will help identify him if she does anything crazy.
Getting him microchiped is a good idea. I would seriously think about having him freeze branded, you can cover it up for shows the hair will grow back white and it is a perm mark. Your intials are a good idea. That way you can pick him out of a paddock any distance away, record the branding, with both photos and get the vet to sign a declaration of branding.
I don’t think this crazy is going to stop. She wants this horse, bad.
You’re probably pretty, talented, and/or smart. That’s enough to do it. It’s not your fault.
I’m so glad you took steps with the police and your lawyer uncle. You’ve gotten some excellent suggestions on the board about ID’ing your horse should this crazy woman take him. I pray it doesn’t happen!
I too am one of the unlucky stalkee crowd. Happened in the late 1980’s. The worst thing was the feeling of having my whereabouts constantly surveyed, like I was in a concentration camp or something. Only I didn’t know where the guards were. shudder
Good luck. Please keep us posted, and please be CAREFUL!!!
HUGS
Kim
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Jealousy usually sparks the obsessive stalker.
Please be careful OP. I’m sure it is terrifying to be personally stalked, but having someone stalk your horse seems somewhat worse to me. Horses are vulnerable, unaware and can’t protect themselves. If you’re at a public stables, you can’t be there 24/7 to prevent someone from paying them a “visit”.
I know for a fact that anyone threatened by a stalker becomes very angry and resentful. I’ll be hard pressed not to punch my stalker in her fat face should I ever meet her in person.
Be careful and good luck.
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Make sure YOU ARE IN THE PICTURES with your horse. In preparation for hurricanes/fire/storms the rescues have said you should have pictures of your pet with you in them, to prove ownership.
That’s probably a good idea for everyone to do. I have one picture with me and my two guys, so I guess I’m covered.
Fleur - I am REALLY sorry for all of this; you definitely don’t deserve it! I have learned so much from this thread though if that’s any consolation! Seriously though, I really hope everything turns out well and please keep us updated on on any new developments! I agree that this trainer might become the most “infamous” trainer on COTH!
thanks everyone.
it is certainly just adding stress I do not need at the moment. This on top of my pony’s eye issues, and I go in tomorrow at 9 to get my tonsils out 
all this while I am stressing due to applying to college/waiting for a response. I just want 2008 to be over, start fresh in 2009
and just so everyone gets an idea… this is the handsome stud (figuratively speaking) that is in such high demand:D
http://inlinethumb18.webshots.com/43473/2191010720102941000S500x500Q85.jpg
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I have about nine trillion photos of him/us. and will take some photos of his markings as soon as I feel up to it after my surgery. I hope to be at the farm friday … well really I have to no matter what b/c pony needs eye treatments … so i will get that all in order asap.
I will update as it progresses (although hopefully it stops here). glad I am able to supply some late year entertainment for everyone:lol:
Well, I can see why she wants him, although I think Tommy fits him perfectly! Hopefully she’s easier to get rid of than most crazy people 
Fleur - one more thing. In any future discussions with the police or district attorney, he is not “your horse”. He is “your valuable show horse”. Trust me on this. Use the whole phrase, and use it repeatedly.
As other posters have noted, it can be hard for the authorities to take seriously a potential threat to an animal, but “valuable” is a word they understand, and “show horse” is a majikal phrase to non-horse-people. And if they want to know how valuable, lie a little if necessary. We’ll back you up.
Well, if I were a crazy stalking person, I’d stalk him too. (; He is very handsome…
I agree on the magical phrase “valuable show horse.” Sadly, people can’t grasp the concept of someone coveting your pet, but they can understand someone wanting your valuable item… and that’s what livestock boils down to when it comes to the letter of the law.
He IS very handsome. No wonder she covets him!
Hang in there and keep us posted. Bravo for the way you are handling this difficult and frightening situation!
He IS very handsome. No wonder she covets him!
He is the George Clooney/Brad Pitt of horseydom! That is why she is obsessed. He needs bodyguards! :winkgrin:
Seriously, he’s a nice looking horse.
Tommy is a looker…good luck Fleur. I hope the surgery goes well and all of the stupidity with this carzy woman is over soon.
Nice looking horse!
And really, the drugs they give you, you will be at peace ALL day today 
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