Opinions on DHH crosses for jumping?

[Edre]

@Kasheare

You all just really want to try to destroy me.

if by “destroy you” you mean “really want you to have your horses on a nutritional program that doesn’t result in them looking skinny, unthrifty, and otherwise appearing like they are failing to thrive”, then yes.

If you have so much time to hang around on the internet, you have no room to claim that “soandso” employee of yours you pay to do a job hasn’t been doing the job since you clearly have enough time to check in and supervise that the job is being completed to satisfaction.
Log off. Go check on your horses.

[FitzE]

@skydy

You really think that the difference in the condition of your thin horses compared to horses in good flesh on this thread, is a matter of photo angles?

Of all the dumb excuses that have been thrown out there, this is the dumbest. And that’s saying something. Plus, if it really is possible to show emaciated horses with dull coats and dead eyes looking fine and fit by picking the right angle, she’d have picked that angle to photograph her own.

@skydy

the fact that they weren’t seized is hardly something to brag about.

Especially true as we’ve now had two veterinary professionals tell us it’s almost impossible to get animals seized even when they are in desperate shape and the place is under investigation with multiple re-visits. I trust their info and experience more than ‘animal control thought it was a joke’. No way to verify that so it’s useless info.

[trubandloki]

@Kasheare

Haha nope wec sells it! Ask them where they get their alfalfa from and their value statistics lol! Oh people it’s getting comical

@Kasheare

Because you are not the vet, county animal control or anyone else that has been seeing my horses. Because it does not exist. We are not putting down the old mare as she’s happy. And none of you post/comment on all the “good” photos you take weird angles. Heck the vets been out to microchip and do coggins and other things on different occasions, farrier as well, even animal control thought the call was a joke. So yes I can sit here and know that you all can break down everything in my life, including if I lied about my mother dying horrifically from ovarian cancer in 2005, and still continue on functioning successfully with amazing animals and amazing business opportunities. That’s the difference here people. Everyone here saying how dare I not get a gate….well shit it was fun. I give the barn owner time to re-do things. People here saying I can’t pay my bills……well that’s public record and damn sure I don’t owe anyone. People here questioning if I graduated law school or took the bar check results from ube in July 2012 (graduated law school a semester early in Dec 2011). I mean it’s just silly. So I sit back and watch you all argue over my life. Hey better you than me. I have a great life! I hope you all can say the same!

@Kasheare

They laughed at the complain and asked if I wanted to file a harassment charge against the person that made it. I actually reached out and spoke to said person and we had a great conversation. In addition do you not think that when vets and farriers are there weekly checking on different things one would say hey this isn’t great? Or the plethora of people that come to look at things asking about custom breeding or purchasing. Inknow shocking to you all but alas the truth. But please keep pushing on here. Love the flip flop comments!!! When not a single person who has been to the farm has come out and said a single thing don’t you have to question where you are getting information from? I mean I can take some seriously bad still shots from things people post. Even an attorney has sent me some ridiculous pics. Nope all normal. You all just really want to try to destroy me. Why not sure but that’s fine. Keep on keeping on.

@Kasheare

Then clearly you didn’t read because someone very clearly did ask about the falsity of the death of my mother on coth. Lol! How do you guys not even keep your own allegations straight?

@Kasheare

And no idea who would say I owe them? The dog sitter I fired for despicable care and caught on cameras coming only once a day. Yes she didn’t get paid for those like 5 days and she refused to turn in my house key so I had to get my locks changed. Gotta love people. Other than that I don’t owe a single dime to any establishment except emco who we are negotiating with on issues. But that’s ok if you don’t have your stories straight and rely on people to actually tell the truth. It’s the one thing that anyone that actually knows me knows……after the ridiculousness of what I went through after ny mothers passing is that I’m very black and white and always tell the truth. And what got me seriously hated by braiders because I didn’t care about their “unwritten rules” and thought it was outrageous. I’m ok being a target but only if the target you are hitting is with actual factual information which you are not

@Kasheare

Would absolutely love to hear it! Never had any story but the truth. Did a group deal with a breeder in Oregon where she bought the mare and I bought the foal. California liquidation lady would only sell them together even though foal was weaned for months. Mare went to Oregon and was sold under saddle, filly came to me in az where she lived for a few months until I brought her to Florida. Legitimately not a single other thing is there at all so good luck with your story telling!

@Kasheare

Good for you but I legitimately have no problem paying my bills so sorry you had to dance with a deceitful trainer but not me lol

@Kasheare

You clearly have not read clearly then. I mean that’s on you. I’ve posted tons of photos and videos and many many are not mentioned. Anyone check out the black mare in the pic with the pony in Arizona? Instead of questioning the owners feed choice (not mine lol) of guess what two flakes of alfalfa morning and night, you guys attacked that there was in fact just two flakes per horse. You don’t realize that’s the 18 yo broodmare you all said was abused and skinny got forbid I chased her to jump a truck? I mean this is how ridiculous it’s getting. All the videos of the babies and free jump of 2yo with close of pics and silence here……just saying love how you pick and choose and if you can’t get me for one thing you all result to things like my footwear choice in which no one in the real world freaking cares (liability on me not anyone else). But hey ok! I’ll continually answer questions with the truth 100% of the time and you guys can continually run yourselves in circles looking up every record ever in my life. Have at it guys

@Kasheare

I’ve posted those pics again!!! That horrible ribby black in the one pic….hmmmm amazing in the other. The one mare that red bagged was in a sales video that not a single one of you mentioned a thing on or screen shotted. The yearling now 2yo that you said oh terrible care in his videos and free jump not a peep. That’s what I’m saying you can try to pull from things as you want. I made it very clear that I was not in town when the mare aborted the chacco blue embryo but the vet had been there numerous times. Yes the stall had not been cleaned (hired the farm managers brother in law) and picture sent to me by farm manager. Brother in law was immediately fired. Mare had been pulled off to be fed strictly (all in vet records provided to owner) as vet thought she was getting too much sugar from the grass round bales.

As I said I have been open and honest and provided everyone with every truth. You all keep coming and that’s fine. I’m fine sharing the truth. What annoys me greatly is how many on here don’t read and then spin off their own story and comment based on that. Like at least get the faces right before your opinion fake fact. I called the sheriff to make a report when I got home. A woman who I will not mention felt pressured because of her job to call animal control who strongly urged me to file harassment charges. Waste of his time was how the agent put it. So take it as you want. I just like checking in to see what new gossip/fake stories you all have come up with. I mean you’ve dissected my life completely so not sure what’s left you all are going to try to “target”. But hey I’m here to answer any of those questions

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[Djones]

Years ago a multi-breed breeder moved here from Ocala and over the Fall and Winter…ran out of either money or help or both and her mares and young horses looked terrible. She was standing 8 or 9 stallions at the time and had an absolute herd of mares and youngsters. Those mares and young horses looked terrible.

One day I bumped into a fellow who lives about 5-6 miles from me and on the other side of Miss Ocala. He and I aren’t pals, we just know each other a little via horses. Honestly i didn’t care much for him. Apropos of nothing, he asked if I’d noticed the mares. I had. He grew very animated and shared that he was really worried about them, and had even thrown hay to them a few times he was so bothered about their condition. Changed my opinion of him completely.

So, point being- we aren’t a bully-club of mean girls and boys. We’re just a bunch of horse people trying to get you to realize your horses look like hammered ****, and to please do something about it.

[FitzE]

Jaysus, and now the dogs also are cared for absentee and that help is also the worst and is fired immediately.

How can a grown, functioning adult not see that the same story over and over and over just makes them look bad and looks like a lie? @Kasheare make a simple Word table of all the times you’ve subcontracted the care of your animals. In the second column note the ones in which the ‘help’ let you down and you ‘fired them immediately’.

More than two = you are the problem. The number you claim just on here = most likely a lie.

HTH

[Rumorhasit93]

I have a sneaking suspicion that it any one of us came out to your farm and had the same conclusion that we do now, that you wouldn’t admit it to anyone.

You have experienced breeders and hell, even hay farmers and lawyers on here telling you you’re wrong and you don’t care.

Your horses are skinny from every angle, stalls are filthy (or is it just a filter ;)), and everything is everyone else’s fault. [quote=“Kasheare, post:2295, topic:789934”]
I’ve posted those pics again!!! That horrible ribby black in the one pic….hmmmm amazing in the other. The one mare that red bagged was in a sales video that not a single one of you mentioned a thing on or screen shotted. The yearling now 2yo that you said oh terrible care in his videos and free jump not a peep. That’s what I’m saying you can try to pull from things as you want. I made it very clear that I was not in town when the mare aborted the chacco blue embryo but the vet had been there numerous times. Yes the stall had not been cleaned (hired the farm managers brother in law) and picture sent to me by farm manager. Brother in law was immediately fired. Mare had been pulled off to be fed strictly (all in vet records provided to owner) as vet thought she was getting too much sugar from the grass round bales.
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I’ve been following this thread, er train wreck, since the very beginning and must have missed the good photos and video. Do you mind Re-sharing them so we can end this once and for all?

Thanks!

[jvanrens]

@Kasheare

So I sit back and watch you all argue over my life.

Guess you missed the part where absolutely nobody posting here is arguing. The consensus is that you should step back from horse ownership if you couldn’t be bothered to take care of them properly.

[LilDunFilly]

@Kasheare

Then clearly you didn’t read because someone very clearly did ask about the falsity of the death of my mother on coth. Lol! How do you guys not even keep your own allegations straight?

Where? Does anyone else have a post number for this one because I do not/did not see someone claim Kate’s mom had not passed.

@Kasheare

The dog sitter I fired for despicable care and caught on cameras coming only once a day. Yes she didn’t get paid for those like 5 days and she refused to turn in my house key so I had to get my locks changed. Gotta love people.

I have no idea who this dog sitter is nor did I know this was even an issue. I was speaking about people on FB talking about how you not paid them for board/horse care/etc, along with one (?) person on COTH talking about braiding. All the above story tells me is… once again you apparently failed to find good help.

@Kasheare

But that’s ok if you don’t have your stories straight and rely on people to actually tell the truth.

I do not have multiple stories; there is nothing I’m trying to keep straight. You have multiple stories to keep straight. Every single issue that you have, every criticism people tell you, it is always someone else’s fault.

[Annie10]

@jvanrens

@Kasheare

So I sit back and watch you all argue over my life.

Guess you missed the part where absolutely nobody posting here is arguing. The consensus is that you should step back from horse ownership if you couldn’t be bothered to take care of them properly.

No one here is arguing except you. We all agree that your horses are neglect cases that look like crap and need to be properly fed and cared for

[Maria]

Goodness adulting is hard. Part of adulting is accepting responsibility for your muck ups, learning from your mistakes, admitting that maybe,just maybe your aren’t all that and a bag of chips and that you can learn a thing along the way.

Nope, not you.

The photos I have seen of your horses are disgusting, plain and simple. They are unthrifty, malnourished, skinny, wormy looking and sad.

Prove us wrong, take a current photo with a date stamp on the photo, of the horses shown in this thread.

[Railbird]

If you have ongoing issues with your animals being neglected when you can’t monitor them daily, shipping the one broodmare and the pony clear across the country seems like a really weird solution to that problem.

[Virginia_Horse_Mom]

Yes. I don’t understand why these two have been shipped back to Arizona. Were they sold?

[LilRanger]

@Kasheare

The people that

@Kasheare

many vets can attest

@Kasheare

the lawyers

@Kasheare

we will seek

@Kasheare

, the vets

@Kasheare

, all the people

The pluralities are striking, and sound vaguely familiar. I don’t understand how mentioning unnamed multiples gives any weight to a position? It like saying “a million people can’t be wrong!” but yeah, they totally can be wrong.

Also, I do love the references to having the lawyers taking care of stuff, or saying it’s in court you can’t say anything. That’s such a canard; your lawyer, Lionel Hutz, is fine if you talk about it!

[FitzE]

What’s the over under on how soon we’ll see a post about how awful the people taking care of those two are and how they were ‘fired immediately’?

Countdown clock anyone?

[paw]

My question is why (especially if you’re a breeder) would you post photos of your animals that weren’t amazing? Skinny foals, skinny broodmares, and that horrible shot of the aborted foal… why?

Also, just as a nit, I’ve never heard of someone who graduated “a semester early” from law school. Pray tell, which school allows this?

[Kasheare]

Arizona state university. Feel free to look up my entrance August 2009 and graduation date December 2011. Guess now you’ve heard it all. I took a heavy extra load to get through quicker.

[Pocket_Rocket]

Wow Kate, did you just give a straight answer to a straight question?

While you’re in the mood, how about the questions posed in this thread over and over? Are your horses now being properly fed? Do you have those current, time-stamped pics to shut us all up?

[Kasheare]

Go to my Facebook they are all on there yet you all fail to post all those pics lol!

[Kasheare]

And I’ve only given a straight truthful answer to everything. Inhave nothing to hide in my life. But you all take it and still create weird lies lol

[Pocket_Rocket]

Your horses, your photos.

Please post the pictures that contradict what “we all” have seen. And, please do answer the direct question which was are they now being adequately and nutritiously fed?

And, lastly, will you come to terms with the fact that this thread is not about you per se, and that no amount of blame shifting and excuses can ever absolve you from failing your responsibility toward them.