Opinions on DHH crosses for jumping?

[SpicyPRE]

shhh

[LilRanger]

@2bayboys

she is supposed to be three but I have my doubts. Sure looks like a 2-yr-old to me with those legs for days.

Maybe she’s a winter baby, so three by jc terms, but really only 2 years and a few months in actual time.

Btw, Dorcas is Greek for gazelle… Just sayin’, she looks dorky right now, but just you wait!

[Annie10]

@McGurk

Given her condition, I would be surprised if she were chipped.

In the bad old days, they didn’t get tatooed until they were actually at the track and had gotten a gate card.

I don’t know how it works now, if there’s any reason to chip them earlier. Also, I think any vet can microchip a horse, I think the tatooing had to be done by a racing official?

ETA: Just read this article in the Blood Horse. A TB’s chip or “digital tattoo” has to be done by a licensed official as well, so similar to the old tatoos - most likely done at the track, after they’ve received their gate card.

https://www.bloodhorse.com/horse-racing/articles/237793/digital-tattoos-the-new-identifying-standard-in-2020#:~:text=The%20longstanding%20practice%20of%20branding,rest%20of%20their%20racing%20career.

I think they have to be chipped to be registered now. Anyone can do it as long a as it’s on their paperwork.
They sent me the chip
For my colt when they sent me his registration packet when he was a baby

[Annie10]

Perhaps a good deworming might help.

[Annie10]

@omare

Latest protocol seems to be that the American jockey club sends out the foal application paperwork, DNA hair sampling kit and microchip kit with all cross referenced to the distinctive chip/number sent out for this foal… It seems to be triggered by the report of live foal being filed with the AJC.

The stallion report from stallion owner is also needed for registration (that seems to be electronic filed now by SO).

That’s exactly how they do it.my vet chipped my foal here at my farm . It doesn’t have to be anyone at the track like in another post

I actually had my Colt chipped prior to receiving the packet from the jockey club because we had a hurricane coming. So I still have that chip, and I just put the chip that’s in him number on all the paperwork and it was no big deal.

[WildLittleWren]

@Annie10

Perhaps a good deworming might help.

I was going to suggest the same thing.

[LilRanger]

If ks is breeding for brains and ammy friendly horses, that bloody sire must be why this horse should be in a professional program.

[Alterrain]

@MorganSercu

So Kate’s saying that this 2023 foal’s sire is a full sibling to Jackaroo, Mandiba and High Kingdom.

That’s all very well and good - but what about this foal’s DAM?

She is alive, and has a uterus!

[luvmyhackney]

@LilRanger

If ks is breeding for brains and ammy friendly horses, that bloody sire must be why this horse should be in a professional program.

This! I should be able to keep this horse in my backyard without fearing for my life and not need a high end pro to help.

[CanteringCarrot]

I keep consistently seeing poor necks, heads (which may be a matter of preference but the neck attached to it doesn’t help the picture), backs, and sometimes leg or other conformation features on these horses bred by KS.

I’ve definitely seen some horses with undesirable conformation perform quite well, but I can’t say that I’d purposely set out to breed this “type.” It seems that in these crosses, the foal heavily favors the DHH side of things, which further demonstrates how important the dam is.

Favoring the DHH side might be ok for some things, but generally not for upper level dressage, hunters, or eventing IMO.

[SpicyPRE]

thats an interesting observation!!

However, I suspect that she feels that the colt has a huge future that will show the rest of the true genius that is Kathryn Shearer.

[SpicyPRE]

@CanteringCarrot

I’ve definitely seen some horses with undesirable conformation perform quite well, but I can’t say that I’d purposely set out to breed this “type.”

Exactly!! There are plenty of horse with questionable conformation out there to be had already. We dont need more. Just look at the Bowie auction…

[Railbird]

Interestingly the casquino was marketed as a serious hunter prospect and yours was not.

[skydy]

I’ve noticed the DHH dam side coming through strongly in all of these foals as well. Beside the heads and necks that you mentioned I see many straight shoulders and hind legs close and out behind.

I hope that Kathryn/Kate Shearer will rethink these crosses and get some advice and education about functional sport horse conformation, as well as taking into consideration the temperaments of the horses she is using.

[Warmblood1]

@2bayboys

I don’t want to jinx it, but once I safely get her home I’d be happy to share the experience. She’s entering quarantine in TX today.

Baby needs groceries.

This horse is a better hunter/jumper prospect than anything I’ve seen KS produce. I’m so thrilled this sweet little horse got a soft landing. Please share pictures of her glow up on COTH!

[jvanrens]

@SpicyPRE

@CanteringCarrot

I’ve definitely seen some horses with undesirable conformation perform quite well, but I can’t say that I’d purposely set out to breed this “type.”

Exactly!! There are plenty of horse with questionable conformation out there to be had already. We dont need more. Just look at the Bowie auction…

Most of the horses I’ve seen at the Bowie Auction lately (I will freely admit I don’t spend a lot of time there) are nicer looking.

[CanteringCarrot]

@2bayboys

I don’t want to jinx it, but once I safely get her home I’d be happy to share the experience. She’s entering quarantine in TX today.

Baby needs groceries.

I can’t wait to see a “glow up” on this one!

[fordtraktor]

@Alterrain

She is alive, and has a uterus!

She isn’t any more, poor thing. This one is out of the mare that died of colic recently. I feel sorry for anyone who loses a horse like that.

I do like the Jackaroo best of what she has bred. It is the only one I have seen that actually looks natural cantering. Most of them really prefer the trot, exactly what top jumper riders are looking for!

In her page she has a link to another Jackeroo baby for sale, and that foal is light years nicer than hers. Not even comparable.

[SpicyPRE]

I believe the uterus comment was what accomplishment/accolade does the dam of either baby have.

[Aussie_2020]

My heart sinks every time I see pictures of her mares and sale horses. I feel so sorry for them all and I don’t like making fun of them. Poor things, I hope they find caring owners that will cherish them. Her breeding operation is wrong on all levels. This woman seems to have a very big problem between her ears.