Well my curiosity has been sated. Thanks for looking!
It might be petty to say, but I feel a sense of disappointment about the waste of some good studs - especially the rare ones. How cool would it be to have some of these old lines crossed on a nice, appropriate mare (I say as someone who is perfectly happy with an off breed saint 
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When most/all of these horses donāt sell, or sell for much less than the āadvertisedā prices, how much do you want to bet it gets blamed on the ābad pressā created by other people who are out to sabotage the business and not on the fact that she majorly misjudged the market and interest for these horses?
Yeah Iām with you. The waste of the Chacco Blue and Nabab de Reve definitely activated the cursing portions of my vocabulary.
The fact that she had Chin Chin under ownership (looks like sheās sold it) makes me want to shake my fist at the universe.
It makes me kind of sick. I am thinking about breeding my mare and thinking about using an older stallion with limited time left to breed and the idea that I might get a dose and have it not work out and āwaste itā is part of what gives me pause about the whole endeavor (this thread has given me a half dozen other reasons to feel apprehensive). And then on the other end of the spectrum are people who will spend $$$ for the limited-supply semen of deceased and stallions and use it to breed such random, random foals.
By way of comparison, the #1 hunter bred yearling who won Sallie Wheeler is priced right about there. So you could have a horse that basically has won everything on the line everywhere and has beautiful conformation and movement, by a well known and accomplished sire, handled and maintained properly by a top program-- or you could have a For Pleasure out of a random DHH mare who has so far herself never apparently accomplished anything in sport or produced anything that has accomplished anything in sport. I actually think the filly Iām mentioning is less than $40,000 
No results for that name within USEF. Yikes.
And on that note, not a single dam with KG listed on any of the horses she owns, is recorded with USEF.
āNever have I ever KGā there is a 2014 saddlebred by the name Never Have I Ever owned by someone in AZ
or āhakuna Matata kgā āfleuer delcor kgā
I bet the yearling youāre mentioning has actually been fed, too!
So is Never Have I Ever actually a Saddlebred?
I guess that foal will be register b only then?
No I think thereās nothing under the KG acronym - the only āNever Have I Everā on record seems to be a Saddlebred. Different horse.
In short, no record of any use for these DHHs.
Iād rather someone give a genuine try with a good mare and it not take vs actually waste it like KS has. Actually Iād rather someone dump the semen in the trash vs put crappy built babies on the ground to starve.
Hmmmm.
Saddlebreds apparently are periodically crossed with DHH, and that is allowed by KWPN for their harness bred horses.
I believe Kate was from Arizona.
Maybe she just added her suffix to this horseās name?
Oh yes I see where I may be confused. Maybe someone will clear it up - my sleuthing skills are tied up elsewhere lol.
I have owned a DHH cross (registered KWPN) for going on 5 years. Heās been a star in the jumpers since I got him. I qualified for 2 Gold Star Clinics with him, and showed him in 3 Zone Jumper Team Championships, with team medal finishes in all 3. In 2021 and 2022 I showed him with great success in the Low Amateur Jumpers. Heās currently leased to a kid wanting to move up from the .90 m jumpers. Heās sensitive and somewhat spooky, not a good mover or particularly fast, but a clean and scopey jumper whoās also proven his ability to add a stride in any combination and jump out clean. I love him! Iād recommend a DHH cross to anyone looking to do the jumpers.
I take it all back - that one is a gelding. I was not paying attention! I need a third latte.
So, yes, as someone upthread said - none are registered under those names at least, on USEF.
Maybe the $40k includes free braiding for life and a truck load of Arizona alfalfa. 
Which one of these mares is the super skinny grey her grooms were āridingā?
Iāve seen some harness types do well in the lower-level jumpers, as you describe. But a $40,000 foal is not intended for the lower levels.
Welcome back after a 6 year absence, maybe stick around longer then last time.
Can you share his breeding?
There are several DHH and DHH cross owners who found their horse could be useful at the lower levels of eventing and jumping or Dressage, and thatās great.
However, anecdotal success in LL competition is light years away from breeding unproven DHH (and conformationally so-so) mares to jumpers, and expecting to sell them as high level prospects for 5 figures, especially while starving them in utero and after they are born, in the process.
No, she is by the approved DHH stallion Graaf Kelly out of the same dam as Ivanka. 100% DHH.
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