I believe as long as the sire is an approved stallion and a jumper, then the foal is recorded as a jumper. Even if the dam is tuigpaard.
I’m now curious on what the rules are for tuigpaard mares who were originally ADHHA registered. Do they have to be inspected before being accepted into the KWPN studbook, or approved for breeding?
A lot of DHH trace back to Immigrant who is technically bred by Callaway (sp) Hills and a palomino, Hollands Golden Boy and both were approved.
That pedigree I found was by virtue of finding a mare with similar description, same sire, same year, and same barn name and then assuming that it was the same mare. It’s possible I was wrong and there were two black mares by ulandro named Reba that year, for the record! At that time there were no pedigrees with dam line info anywhere so I suspect the new version is the more correct.
A harness x riding type foal will be registered as riding type. At 3 when you bring them back for the studbook inspection (versus the foalbook) you can request a change of direction if the horse shows talent in a different area than where it was initially registered and they’ll evaluate it for the new discipline then.
The version I linked for Hakuna Matata KG in allbreed is apparently correct.
I think the mare’s barn name, “Reba” possibly came from the name that was originally given when she apparently was registered with ADHHA… “Rebar Acres Malise “
So to make this clear. Ks foundation brood mare is double registered ADHHA and KWPN? So when K says on line she’s not ADHHA she’s actually lying? It’s true horse is KWPN as we’ve all hashed out, but it’s not true to say she isnt ADHHA?
I got my junior hunter as a 12 year old dressage broodmare. Barely was started in jumping when I got her, and certainly not at 3’6” (back when junior hunters were all 3’6”). My parents paid $25k for her in 2006.
Ended up taking me to my first USET, eq/medals, and around many junior hunter classes.
But, she had Hanoverian papers 
two nice foals on the ground, and was clearly in nice conditional albeit a little unfit.
ADHHA clearly has an 11 year old mare with the same sire and dam and color and markings in its database, and it clearly was registered with them as a foal… there are multiple other offspring from Mailnda (Reba’s dam) who are registered with ADHHA.
The sire, Ulandro, is KWPN registered and approved. But he was widely used by ADHHA breeders on a variety of mares with a variety of pedigrees. I think there are over 200 of his offspring in the ADHHA studbook.
I do not know if the mare is actually registered with KWPN as well, or if she was inspected and approved for their studbook. It does seem clear that Kate changed her name.
I definitely think it is fair to say that Kate is omitting key information about this mare when she describes her as “KWPN” …
*ETA: There are 245 offspring for Ulandro listed in the ADHHA database. So he clearly was heavily used by ADHHA breeders.
Hakuna Matata KG and Rebar Acres Malise are the same horse. She is dual registered ADHHA and KWPN-NA.
ADHHA doesn’t show Shearer as her owner (at least as of 2019). Is that unusual?
No, not unusual at all. Very common for people not to transfer papers, especially if they are not planning on being involved with the registry in any way.
Is the mare Studbook, Register A, or Register B with KWPN, out of curiosity?
She is Register B as she is out of a mare that is ADHHA registered only.
Ahhhh. That makes a lot of sense in terms of how the mare books work.
It looks like both Ulandro and Majestiet were licensed stallions, so the mare does have that going for her.
So just to make sure that the record on this thread is correct, because there has been a lot of confusion… is it accurate to say that foals from an approved stallion and a Register B mare get recorded in Register A?
Yes, a Register B mare bred to an approved stallion or a stallion approved with an erkend studbook will be Register A or Foalbook as long as the mare’s sire is at least a Foalbook stallion
Very helpful clarifying information. Thank you!
Last last thing. 
Can a Register A colt become a licensed and approved KWPN stallion?
Yes. Register A and Foalbook colts are eligible to go through the licensing process. However, this does start with a pedigree evaluation where the committee in Holland decides whether the pedigree would be interesting to the breeding goals of the KWPN. If the dam line doesn’t have a strong enough sport background, predicates, etc they will not consider the stallion for licensing unless the stallion himself can overcome what they see as a deficit in the pedigree.
Thanks so much for more clarification and educational information.
Literally half the hunter/jumper/dressage people I know don’t bother to transfer registry papers when they acquire a horse. If you’re not going for registry awards or breeding, it doesn’t really matter. Folks just register the new horse with the USEF and carry on with life. If you look on any “help me find my old horse” post on FB you will discover lots of people just don’t bother transferring ownership with the registry when they buy a horse.
That’s a shame. I doubt it costs nearly as much to transfer a horse as it does to register one.
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