[QUOTE=3Dogs;6132007]
:lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:
Names - all this over names -
back to original programming - life time numbers that track breeding
Never can rely on NAMES for goodness sake ;)[/QUOTE]
I do LOOOOOVE this idea. Lifetime, trackable numbers would be a HUGE step in the right direction.
[QUOTE=Emy;6131667]
It is wonderful for breeders if the horses they have bred still carry their farm initials and are campaigned with them…. The reality is that people drop suffix’s and change names to suit their personal tastes. (Recent case in point Dutch Breeder Stal Flemming’s lovely Ulteim’s Flemming who debuted in NA with Ashley Holzer as Breaking Dawn)
This week I came across a sales ad for a colt our farm had bred/raised/sold that had the purchasers farm suffix tacked on to his name in the ad (they kept the name the same) as if they had bred the horse (!?) sigh.
Our stallion Sandro’s Heir had a boatload of names in Germany; Starfriese for the German Foal Championships/Elite Foal Auction, Sandro Fun for his initial competition, Sarastro for the Elite Auction and Sandro’s Heir for Licensing…. Phew! When the wife of his late breeder finally tracked him down last year she was beyond elated to finally find him. The interesting thing about his current and final name (poor guy) is that when his first 2 foals we born here in NA the breeders each in different areas of the county, chose to name his foals Sandro’s Melody and Sandro’s Stolz (pride in German)… when we bred our own mare to him we felt “pressured” to name the resulting 2011 filly Sandro’s ‘something’ because the other two people had! I am sure the irony is not lost on anyone that if we had tried to force/encourage/even suggest to anyone that they name their foals after our stallion we would have been told to shove it.[/QUOTE]
Breaking Dawn??? :eek::eek::eek:
Breeder envy…:no::(:sadsmile:
Sandro’s whatever! Perfect! You know you are exactly right! :yes::yes::yes:
First off, how nice that a thread this long isn’t an actual trainwreck!
Hyperion, ALL horses in Europe are required to have a microchip, not just Dutch. The actual law was in 2007 I believe but I can’t think of any registry that didn’t require a microchip. I’ve been here 10 years and it’s been the norm. Even if you had no recorded breeding, if you registered a horse with the SJI you had to have a chip and a passport to identify the “mutt”.
Maybe there should be a limit on numbers of a name like TB’s. Can’t see it happening in Belgium but would certainly tidy names up a bit.
Terri
Sorry, even with the couple of smilies you added there, this still sounds like ranting.
Personally, I will change a name if I don’t like it. However, I think it is very important when registering the horses that the breeders get recorded.
I will give a breeder credit any chance I get since I think it is very important to recognize the fabulous job North American Breeders are doing!!! :yes:
FWIW ~ I have seen many horses ( more lately ) that are purchased here and trainers change names and say they are imported. :eek: I think breeders need to follow the horses they breed ( to the best of their ability ) and make this known somehow…
nothing you can do about a name change though it bothers me a bit just because I go to a lot of thought to pick pretty names that mean something. The only one I have cringed at was one poor gelding that got his name changed to the name of a stripper club. Eeeeeew! SO tacky. But the name was officially changed with the APHA so at least I get credit as the breeder. My bigger beef is when the horse is entered in shows with the new name and no breeder or pedigree info.
I mentioned the name in question last night when I talked to my mother, when she heard it, she laughed pretty hard and it was easy to hear her mind immediately go to the gutter over the phone. She is 70, so it is not only teens or the “immature” set who come up with the wrong associations.
I checked out OP’s website from her siggy out of curiousity and she’s got some really nice horses including the horse with the name change, but I agree his original name was unintentionally hilarious!
Best of luck OP!
Luckily for me, most of my buyers did not think like you.
First of all, I bred Akhal Teke/Arab crosses for endurance; all were either palomino or buckskin…so no, there were not many more like them. 90% were sold before they were 6 mos old for good money (for an endurance foal, anyway).
Like the OP, I want to be recognized for the horses I produce…they can call the horse anything they want as a barn name, but the REGISTERED name most stay the same.
The only exception to that were buyers who purchased a foal inutero or a custom foal: they got to name the foal, but (again), the “deal” was the name had to start with a “K” (sire was Kinor), and have “RHR” afterwards.
Never had a problem with it…
[QUOTE=S A McKee;6130511]
Horses with FEI passports can and do have their names changed. Often to insert a sponsors name at the start of the name.
Are you saying EVERY foal born in Ireland regardless of registry can’t have a name change? I can think of several eventers that were inported and the names were changed.[/QUOTE]
Brief Google search brought me this to explain my point…
http://www.usef.org/_IFrames/Faqs/passportFAQ.aspx
Yes, it is possible, but it is highly discouraged and is expensive. It is one thing to add a sponsor title to a horse’s name, completely another to change a horse’s name entirely so that it is not associated with the same horse that competed at FEI level prior to that.
Think about it.
Re the name of every foal born in Ireland IF the foal has been named using a breeder or producer’s registered prefix, then the new owner has to apply to the BREEDER (or prefix owner) for permission to remove that prefix.
http://www.horsesportireland.ie/breeding/registration-process.5774.html#How_do_I_register_a_prefix_
Thems the rules!!
This thread has helped me realize I have three options:
(1) Change my screen name.
(2) Start acting like my screen name.
(3) Accept that the urban dictionary has an alternative meaning for just about every word.
Number 2 does sound like the most fun, doesn’t it?
[QUOTE=Backstage;6132495]
This thread has helped me realize I have three options:
(1) Change my screen name.
(2) Start acting like my screen name.
(3) Accept that the urban dictionary has an alternative meaning for just about every word.
Number 2 does sound like the most fun, doesn’t it?[/QUOTE]
D’you know, I was thinking about you as this thread kept developing :lol:
And another of Maggie’s horses - Carry On MF :lol:
[QUOTE=Backstage;6132495]
This thread has helped me realize I have three options:
(1) Change my screen name.
(2) Start acting like my screen name.
(3) Accept that the urban dictionary has an alternative meaning for just about every word.
Number 2 does sound like the most fun, doesn’t it?[/QUOTE]
I mentioned this thread to my husband (non-horsey). His first response? “Why not just name the horse ‘Back Door Man’?” :eek: And he is 54. . .
I just checked out the urban dictionary. Color me old and a bit disappointed that almost any word in our vocabulary can be made into something foul. In 2006 I named a filly “Soliloquy.” Many folks have remarked that they love the name, how it rolls off the tongue, how subtle its meaning. The UD even made this name ugly. Sad, really. But this has nothing to do with breeding horses. Sigh…
I’m just sort of laughing to myself because while my former horse came with the name ‘Backstage’, I showed her as ‘Backstage Pass’. This thread is giving that name a whole new meaning, too!
“Back when a hoe was a hoe
Coke was a coke
And crack’s what you were doing
When you were cracking jokes
Back when a screw was a screw
The wind was all that blew
And when you said I’m down with that
Well it meant you had the flu”
Tamara
[QUOTE=Backstage;6132531]
I’m just sort of laughing to myself because while my former horse came with the name ‘Backstage’, I showed her as ‘Backstage Pass’. This thread is giving that name a whole new meaning, too![/QUOTE]
I think that’s a cute name! Who knows? Maybe with enough libation, someone can get lucky!
[QUOTE=Tamara in TN;6132562]
“Back when a hoe was a hoe
Coke was a coke
And crack’s what you were doing
When you were cracking jokes
Back when a screw was a screw
The wind was all that blew
And when you said I’m down with that
Well it meant you had the flu”
Tamara[/QUOTE]
this ! Tim McGraw has said it best…
Like.:yes:
[QUOTE=Tamara in TN;6132562]
“Back when a hoe was a hoe
Coke was a coke
And crack’s what you were doing
When you were cracking jokes
Back when a screw was a screw
The wind was all that blew
And when you said I’m down with that
Well it meant you had the flu”
Tamara[/QUOTE]
Yes. :yes:
I was in Walmart last summer as my ages-old hoe had snapped. So I was looking around the garden center but could not find a new one. Up came a worker and said, “Can I help you find something?” I said, “I’m looking for a hoe.” About five customers in earshot (and not just kids) immediately snickered, although the worker didn’t, to his credit, just indicated which aisle. Seriously, people? If somebody is in the garden center obviously hunting something and says they are looking for a hoe, I have no question at all what they mean. Grow up.
I have had one name changed so far, but the new owner kept in touch. I’ve changed a few that were hideous but also kept in touch (one former connection even agreed, “That’s perfect for her!”) I cannot imagine removing a breeder’s tag if any horse I had ever carried one. Maybe change the rest of the name, but not that. But she did say upthread that she offered the buyer the option of just using M to avoid the MF gutter connotations, and he declined and was amused by MF.
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