Plaid Horse Article - Class Limits

[Hunterammy2020]

No most of the A/O hunters are on that schedule.

[Hunterammy2020]

not sure if you’re just trying to be snarky and offensive, but that made me laugh. However, my reaction was clearly not your intent . Jokes on you!

[fivestrideline]

@MHM

@Hunterammy2020

Most actually show 3 weeks on 1 week off. I’ve ridden with 2 of the top trainers in the country at WEF for circuits, and a minimum is 2 on 1 off but most are 3 on 1 off. It’s terrible to the horses tbh.

That has not been my experience after decades at WEF.

Perhaps it depends a bit on the company you choose to keep.

Agree with MHM. I already stated my experience has been that an individual horse will usually do 2 on 1 off, at most. I don’t know anyone except the local barn known for being rather unethical that does more full weeks in a row than that.

To this day my non-horsey mother warns families away from Local Sketchy Barn. Their individual horses’ show schedules alone are a yellow flag, if you know what to look for.

[Hunterammy2020]

Many do actually and sadly. Here’s just a quick snapshot of 3 wks in a row at wef 2025. There’s multiple names just on these weeks that showed 3 weeks in a row in the A/O (I can’t screenshot every single entry but go look for yourself). Not here to argue and if I can quickly pull this it’s happening more than you’d want to think. WEC is even worse tbh.

[trubandloki]

@Hunterammy2020

I did not. I’m telling you what they require. I refused but I have my own farm so I could manage myself. Nice assumption though

I don’t know why you would ride with them at all though, since you are so offended by the amount the horses get ridden with those trainers.
You can’t really have it both ways. Riding with the horrible trainers that you describe over and over again just how horrible they are makes you part of the problem you are insisting you are against.

[Hunterammy2020]

I don’t ride with any of them. Once you see behind the curtain you hopefully don’t turn a blind eye. I don’t support USEF or any of them! I enjoy my hunters at my farm and they enjoy their life! Hope you enjoy yours too

[trubandloki]

@Hunterammy2020

I don’t ride with any of them. Once you see behind the curtain you hopefully don’t turn a blind eye. I don’t support USEF or any of them! I enjoy my hunters at my farm and they enjoy their life! Hope you enjoy yours too

So wait, it was not honest when you said you said this?

@Hunterammy2020

Most actually show 3 weeks on 1 week off. I’ve ridden with 2 of the top trainers in the country at WEF for circuits, and a minimum is 2 on 1 off but most are 3 on 1 off. It’s terrible to the horses tbh.

[Hunterammy2020]

I told you I own my own farm and I take my horses when I want. Always did. I am not “in” their program. I’m referring to those who are. I am not going round and round with you like so many do on here! Hope you enjoy your horses today!

[leighbo009]

I’m not in the WEF world (or even hunter world really), so I have no skin in the game, but based on your screenshots to prove your point, it is not proving your point well.

Only one horse shows up in each of the screenshots, Adelina. (5%)
5 horses show up twice (23%), leaving 16 horses whom only show up once (73%).

Now, I know that this isn’t the full class list, but I am not sure where to find that since I can’t tell which weeks or class you are using for your example (or else I would run the numbers a little more).

[Hunterammy2020]

Showgroundslive. There’s over 20 in those classes, and many more duplicates just out of 3 random weeks I selected. You can go research for yourself on showgroundslive.

[trubandloki]

@Hunterammy2020

Showgroundslive. There’s over 20 in those classes, and many more duplicates just out of 3 random weeks I selected. You can go research for yourself on showgroundslive.

If there were more duplicates, why did you not provide that information since the screen shots were posted to make your point?
Truly curious.

In the screen shots you provided I seen one rider had two horses in that division in the second week, but only rode the one horse in two consecutive weeks.

I just want to add that the pony names at pony finals are much better than these names. Nothing wrong with these names, but darn people make some adorable pony names.

[Hunterammy2020]

I don’t have time to go through and screenshot 3 shots for each day nor do I care to Go do your own research and waste your own life taking screenshots and btw there’s 1 in all 3 of those screenshots that showed 3 weeks in a row. But they’re not the only one out of the over 20 entries. I took those because they show the date. The website is clear as day if you’re so determined go look at it yourself

[TWilson]

@Hunterammy2020

not sure if you’re just trying to be snarky and offensive, but that made me laugh. However, my reaction was clearly not your intent . Jokes on you!

Someone here seems snarky and offensive, but it’s not MHM.

[dags]

I’ve pulled WEF results on hundreds of horse over the past 20 years. 2 weeks on/1 week off is without a doubt the standard.

That said, you could argue that over a 12 week circuit it’s still too much. Fortunately, most of the folks that snowbird for the whole circuit usually don’t show again until it’s time to prep for Devon.

[MHM]

I’ve actually crossed paths with people who spend the whole winter in Florida with their horses and never show once.

They just want to spend the winter where it’s warm and where they can ride and take lessons and watch the horse show and be in the middle of things.

Different strokes for different folks.

[neigh]

Just a mention. Ammy only showed the ribbon winners. It’s possible there are non-placed entries that showed more frequently. It would be interesting to do a spreadsheet of any one division for the entirety of WEF. However, I think we can all accept the fact that some horses and some trainers overshow. FEI allows you to look up any horse or rider and see their competition history, results etc. I find it hard to believe that the same can’t be done via USEF. Piper Klemm wrote a good article in The Plaid Horse that reflects her views on the attitude of the USEF during the KY meeting.

[fivestrideline]

These screenshots do not prove your point, I fear. As others have already pointed out; if there is evidence that supports your arguments buried on other pages of these class lists, why not post those screenshots instead?

Look, people definitely overshow. That isn’t in question. It’s just not as rampant an issue as you’re trying to make it seem, and it is not The Norm.

Don’t support programs that don’t share your values and stance on horse welfare . Not giving them your money will make a MUCH bigger impact than ranting about The Industry on the internet (to the choir, as well).

[leighbo009]

@neigh

FEI allows you to look up any horse or rider and see their competition history, results etc. I find it hard to believe that the same can’t be done via USEF

USEF does allow you to do that via their website. You need a membership in order to search, but it is there.

US Equestrian

US Equestrian

Not sure why its being said as something hard to do on the USEF site. It does bring up all results, including USEA & USDF results as well.

[Hunterammy2020]

The website and the dates are clearly on there. As I said, there are multiple, go look for yourself or whoever is interested. I don’t have time to screenshot 3 screenshots per class per day. Sorry. But everything is right there.

And we are IN TOTAL AGREEMENT. I don’t support the USEF or any of these trainers. As I expressed once you see behind the curtain you’d be very negligent imho to continue.

[neigh]

Perhaps I should have said it better. The FEI system is easy and fast. I am a member of USEF and I find the system to be time consuming and cumbersome. FEI is one place for every horse or rider since they were registered. You don’t have to search each individually by year and horse and rider. That’s been my experience with USEF research. Maybe I’m just the village idiot.