Please help

[Emilia]

On biting- that would be a great opportunity for practice of the search function on COTH.

So many threads and even more opinions!

As for me, I block. Our riding horse does not bite and “CTJ” moments do not work on minis, in general. It just fuels their mischief.

In your case, I would probably block also and then look into reasons for the behavior.

It is still not acceptable, but you would choose one strategy for a bully and another one for someone possibly in pain.

Look it up. Some of those threads are rather entertaining and are full of good horse stories.

[Wish_Upon_a_Star2000]

Thank all of y’all for helping me and giving advice (an extra thanks to those of you who put it politely and respectfully,as there is no one I respect more than a person who gives their opinion with regard to another person’s feelings), and I did not ignore ANY advice, as I said before.

            We all obviously are in different places, as in there are apparently quite a few of you who are privileged to have trainers,lesson barns,lessons,etc., all at your fingertips and I say that you better not take that for granted. There are also others who have to work a bit harder than you to get to those things. THEN there are still others, who, like me, do not have any of those things near me. We have to make do with what we have, and if it's worked before, it can and will work again. We don't take these things for granted either, we are used to working hard and making it through, yes, maybe not to the top, but we've made it. And that's what counts. 

     We all are similar in one way though: We all have goals. I am determined to reach and go beyond mine, who knows about yours! But one thing I have learned is this; always respect everyone, no matter what. It doesn't matter what you have or what you don't have, if you want it bad enough, and work for it hard enough, it's possible. I have learned that the hard way, and can't wait to see where my future lies! Yes, I live in MT, the land of rugged beauty, and yes, in a lot of places, we don't have 'much', (e.g., fancy training barns, a high society horse-life) but I am used to working with and still willing to work with what I have, and go from there. 
       I pity people who are used to having everything right there, and who do not have to work for it, as I've had to make do with or MAKE a LOT of things I now have. I love it though,as there is almost no better feeling than that feeling of accomplishment and satisfaction for a job well done after you've put in long hours of work! God bless y'all and all the cowgirls. Take care,
              ~Wish~

Cowgirl up,or go SIT IN THE TRUCK!

I ain’t fancy, but I figure I’m cowgirl TUFF!

[harvestmoon]

[QUOTE=KSquared;7974600]
SHe has been PMing me and asking questions. She is a very sweet girl. She isn’t a troll or faking us all out. Just trying to get some help in a way she can afford until she can strike out on her own when she can drive. She is young guys and lives in BFE…I know the feeling, I wouldn’t get horsey help either if I wasn’t an adult and living in BFE either.[/QUOTE]

You rock.

[Angela_Freda]

[QUOTE=Wish_Upon_a_Star2000;7995886]
Thank all of y’all for helping me and giving advice (an extra thanks to those of you who put it politely and respectfully,as there is no one I respect more than a person who gives their opinion with regard to another person’s feelings), and I did not ignore ANY advice, as I said before.

            We all obviously are in different places, as in there are apparently quite a few of you who are privileged to have trainers,lesson barns,lessons,etc., all at your fingertips and I say that you better not take that for granted. There are also others who have to work a bit harder than you to get to those things. THEN there are still others, who, like me, do not have any of those things near me. We have to make do with what we have, and if it's worked before, it can and will work again. We don't take these things for granted either, we are used to working hard and making it through, yes, maybe not to the top, but we've made it. And that's what counts. 

     We all are similar in one way though: We all have goals. I am determined to reach and go beyond mine, who knows about yours! But one thing I have learned is this; always respect everyone, no matter what. It doesn't matter what you have or what you don't have, if you want it bad enough, and work for it hard enough, it's possible. I have learned that the hard way, and can't wait to see where my future lies! Yes, I live in MT, the land of rugged beauty, and yes, in a lot of places, we don't have 'much', (e.g., fancy training barns, a high society horse-life) but I am used to working with and still willing to work with what I have, and go from there. 
       I pity people who are used to having everything right there, and who do not have to work for it, as I've had to make do with or MAKE a LOT of things I now have. I love it though,as there is almost no better feeling than that feeling of accomplishment and satisfaction for a job well done after you've put in long hours of work! God bless y'all and all the cowgirls. Take care,
              ~Wish~[/QUOTE]

Wish you have no idea how or without what resources the COTH members got where they are.
You’ve still got a lot of growing to do…

[findeight]

Well, when you “Pity people who are used to having everything right there, and do not have to work for it”?

Don’t you think you are making assumptions with little or no information? And stereotyping/disrespecting people who have different circumstances just like you complain some did to you?

And it’s just plain rude to claim people who have more or nicer things never had to work for it. No excuse, that’s hating over perceptions that usually have no truth.

Some of the posters who have tried to politely help you will take these words as a slap in their faces from a very young person they tried to help.

[Wish_Upon_a_Star2000]

[QUOTE=findeight;7997380]
Well, when you “[B]Pity people who are used to having everything right there, and do not have to work for it”?

#1:Don’t you think you are making assumptions with little or no information? And stereotyping/disrespecting people who have different circumstances just like you complain some did to you?[/B]

And it’s just plain rude to #2:claim people who have more or nicer things never had to work for it. No excuse, that’s hating over perceptions that usually have no truth.

Some of the posters who have tried to politely help you will take these words as a slap in their faces from a very young person they tried to help.[/QUOTE]

I was not referring to anyone when I said “I pity people who are used to having everything right there”. Unless, did you think it hit home with someone you know,or possibly yourself? Just kidding… I did not say that people who have nicer things don’t have to work for them LOL. As far as I know, I said that there are those types of people, and I, again, was not referring to anyone on here. I know a few people that are like that. I also wasn’t hating anyone. And actually, I hoped that that last post would show you all how I appreciated your help, and now it also gets picked apart… ETA: I was not undermining or disrespecting or ‘stereotyping’ anyone. Unless you (or anyone else) took it upon yourselves to twist it to make it seem that way.

[Wish_Upon_a_Star2000]

[QUOTE=Angela Freda;7997159]
Wish you have no idea how or without what resources the COTH members got where they are.
You’ve still got a lot of growing to do…[/QUOTE]

Would ya mind sharing with me about what all they’ve gone without? (I’m serious,not joking) I’d want to hear it, if you can spare the time? I really do want to get where they are, just minus some of the negativity that a few have shown maybe…?

[danceronice]

Protip: better if appreciation isn’t mixed with what sound like snide remarks about people who (to your eyes) have everything without having to work for it.

[danceronice]

And in general terms–there are people here who’ve gone without horses (some who’ve never owned a horse), who’ve had horses who were green or young or injured, who had parents who wouldn’t buy them ANYTHING, let alone lessons on top of horses and all equipment, who would not support a show lifestyle, who work 40+ hours a week to support both their life (ie house, clothes, food, etc) AND their horsey lifestyle, some of whom do that plus supporting their children/spouse, and I can safely say everyone posting on here has something they would like to do or own with regard to horses, but which they don’t have the resources for.

[emipou]

I like you Wish. You are a trooper and you are not afraid to be open and honest to a large group of rather scary anonymous people. I hope the best for you. Keep us updated on your progress with your new horse.

[dungrulla]

[QUOTE=Wish_Upon_a_Star2000;7997495]
Would ya mind sharing with me about what all they’ve gone without? (I’m serious,not joking) I’d want to hear it, if you can spare the time? I really do want to get where they are, just minus some of the negativity that a few have shown maybe…? :)[/QUOTE]

I went without:

1. Riding lessons

2. A barn

3. Any tack or horse of my own

For many, many, MANY years, because I COULD NOT AFFORD THEM. Guess what?! MY parents couldn’t afford to buy me a horse, so I never had one! And here you are complaining about people not having to work for stuff when you have TWO horses you didn’t have to work for! Do you know how expensive horses are or how much upkeep they require? I doubt it.

and currently, have a horse and the opportunity to take lessons because I put my own ass through school and went out and got a 9-5. I drive an hour just about every night to work with my horse even when it is 10 degrees out.

Do not presume you know everything or that other people didn’t have to work for their success. It makes you look foolish.

[Gorgonzola]

[QUOTE=Wish_Upon_a_Star2000;7997480]
I was not referring to anyone when I said “I pity people who are used to having everything right there”. Unless, did you think it hit home with someone you know,or possibly yourself? Just kidding, but seriously. I did not say that people who have nicer things don’t have to work for them LOL. As far as I know, I said that there are those types of people, and I, again, was not referring to anyone on here. I know a few people that are like that. I also wasn’t hating anyone. And actually, I hoped that that last post would show you all how I appreciated your help, and now it also gets picked apart… ETA: I was not undermining or disrespecting or ‘stereotyping’ anyone. Unless you (or anyone else) took it upon yourselves to twist it to make it seem that way.[/QUOTE]

Actually you DID say that.

Also, you did ignore a lot of really great advice on here.

[Wish_Upon_a_Star2000]

[QUOTE=danceronice;7997511]
And in general terms–there are people here who’ve gone without horses (some who’ve never owned a horse), who’ve had horses who were green or young or injured, who had parents who wouldn’t buy them ANYTHING, let alone lessons on top of horses and all equipment, who would not support a show lifestyle, who work 40+ hours a week to support both their life (ie house, clothes, food, etc) AND their horsey lifestyle, some of whom do that plus supporting their children/spouse, and I can safely say everyone posting on here has something they would like to do or own with regard to horses, but which they don’t have the resources for.[/QUOTE]

I’m sure there are I wasn’t saying I was the only one, I wrote that post so that some people could see that it isn’t as easy for me to do what they’ve been insisting has to be done, when it is alot easier for them to do it since they have those type of things around. There is basically nothing here where I live, so here we are forced to make do with,make,or go without, that is basically what I was saying. Hope you understand, and have a great day :)(in the comment before,when you said something about a snide remark…I wasn’t mocking her, I was serious)

[dungrulla]

[QUOTE=Wish_Upon_a_Star2000;7997534]
I’m sure there are I wasn’t saying I was the only one, I wrote that post so that some people could see that it isn’t as easy for me to do what they’ve been insisting has to be done, when it is alot easier for them to do it since they have those type of things around. There is basically nothing here where I live, so here we are forced to make do with,make,or go without, that is basically what I was saying. Hope you understand, and have a great day :)(in the comment before,when you said something about a snide remark…I wasn’t mocking her, I was serious)[/QUOTE]

Somehow despite working 8+ hour days and being 2+ hours from the barn when I get out of work I STILL manage to get out, get help from a trainer, get the vet and farrier out, do my daily tasks for the horse, etc. And this is with 80k+ in student loans as well as car payments and insurance in a major city! There is really no excuse not to and your whining about how you CAN’T is making it impossible for you to do anything.

[Wish_Upon_a_Star2000]

Gorgonzala: I did not mean all people, I did mean a few, but hopefully there are not many people like that. I did not know, though, that I ignored any advice… can you fill me in please?

[meupatdoes]

[QUOTE=Wish_Upon_a_Star2000;7997495]
Would ya mind sharing with me about what all they’ve gone without? (I’m serious,not joking) I’d want to hear it, if you can spare the time? I really do want to get where they are, just minus some of the negativity that a few have shown maybe…? :)[/QUOTE]

Well, I went without a horse, much less two of them, until I could purchase and pay board on my own. This was my senior year in college. My parents did not want me to get a horse but when you make your own money you can spend it how you like. My parents have paid, count them, ZERO bills for any horse I have ever owned.

Lessons and education were self funded from age 15 onwards. I worked as a working student in exchange for rides or paid for lessons with money I earned myself, caught extra catch rides from trainers I was training with where I paid the board bill for my horses myself.

You are 15 years old with your parents paying for every expense for your TWO horses and refusing to get a job because you “don’t like” the place.

Tell me again about working hard to get what you want, I’m all ears.

[Wish_Upon_a_Star2000]

[QUOTE=dungrulla;7997544]
Somehow despite working 8+ hour days and being 2+ hours from the barn when I get out of work I STILL manage to get out, get help from a trainer, get the vet and farrier out, do my daily tasks for the horse, etc. And this is with 80k+ in student loans as well as car payments and insurance in a major city! There is really no excuse not to and your whining about how you CAN’T is making it impossible for you to do anything.[/QUOTE]

             When was I whining "I can't"?

[Wish_Upon_a_Star2000]

[QUOTE=meupatdoes;7997549]
Well, I went without a horse, much less two of them, until I could purchase and pay board on my own. This was my senior year in college. My parents did not want me to get a horse but when you make your own money you can spend it how you like. My parents have paid, count them, ZERO bills for any horse I have ever owned.

Lessons and education were self funded from age 15 onwards. I worked as a working student in exchange for rides or paid for lessons with money I earned myself, caught extra catch rides from triners I was training with where I paid the board bill for my horses myself.

You are 15 years old with your parents paying for every expense for your TWO horsesand refusing to get a job because you “don’t like” the place.

Tell me again about working hard to get what you want, I’m all ears.[/QUOTE]

Glad you are all ears I have changed my mind about that place, (thought I posted that earlier though?) and since then, that store is full to the brim with employees, and will continue into summer, so there goes that

[dungrulla]

[QUOTE=Wish_Upon_a_Star2000;7997552]
When was I whining “I can’t”?[/QUOTE]

@Wish_Upon_a_Star2000;7997552

it isn’t as easy for me to do what they’ve been insisting has to be done, when it is alot easier for them to do it since they have those type of things around. ?

^this is you whining about how you can’t. Stop wasting your time whining about how you can’t and actually do.

[Wish_Upon_a_Star2000]

[QUOTE=dungrulla;7997518]
I went without:

1. Riding lessons

2. A barn

3. Any tack or horse of my own

For many, many, MANY years, because I COULD NOT AFFORD THEM. Guess what?! MY parents couldn’t afford to buy me a horse, so I never had one! And here you are complaining about people not having to work for stuff when you have TWO horses you didn’t have to work for! Do you know how expensive horses are or how much upkeep they require? I doubt it.

and currently, have a horse and the opportunity to take lessons because I put my own ass through school and went out and got a 9-5. I drive an hour just about every night to work with my horse even when it is 10 degrees out.

Do not presume you know everything or that other people didn’t have to work for their success. It makes you look foolish.[/QUOTE]

Haha ok but it’d be FOOLISH to claim you know everything! I wasn’t talking about success, I was talking about a few people who have everything they need and yet do not have to work for it, I was not referring to anyone on here, I was simply stating that there are people like that and that I do NOT want to become one of them…make sense? Have a great day!