Has anyone tried this new line of feed?? I heard it’s the new Triple Crown as they are now being manufactured and milled by Purina
Triple Crown is still Triple Crown. Same formula as before, just being milled by Purina in some markets.
ProElite is similar to Triple Crown but not the same. We’ve had several threads about it. Search turns them up.
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There is nothing that would make me switch from TC to them. They are calling themselves “the best” but there is absolutely nothing on their website or anywhere else that indicates anyone else thinks they are “the best” or why they are “the best.” What exactly is it that makes them superior? If they are not going to say it, why switch?
It’s not exactly the “new TC”. Many SS still carry TC. Some don’t. It all depends on how much volume a given SS is willing to purchase at a time.
I’ve switched to the ProElite Diet Balancer because for a while, my local SS was not able to keep TC 30 in stock, and then for a while it seemed they would stop carrying TC altogether. Currently they stock all of it still.
I’ve not seen any change in my horses between the 2.
ProElite is formulated based on Progressive Nutrition research.
It all depends on your definition of “the best”
Compared to TC30, the PE Diet balancer has a better amino acid profile. That’s a bonus for people like me whose horses get muzzled Spring-Fall, where nutrition is reduced. That’s not going to be a big deal to someone who feeds some alfalfa hay.
PE is lower in zinc and copper than TC. That’s not as good for me, but I already supplement those 2 things anyway, so not a big deal. I’d rather have more amino acids so I don’t have to add those on top of everything else.
I just Switched from Empower Balance and ProAdd to the ProElite version. Haven’t started it yet but will in the next day or two. I like covering my bases in one product rather than the two I have now if possible so we will see how it goes. I like The Empower Balance but hate that they went from 50 pound bags to 40 so was looking to switch.
Did they really go to 40lb bags? :eek: :eek:
My understanding is that in the areas where Triple Crown was previously milled by Southern States, Purina has now taken over, and is still making the feed per specs of Triple Crown. I have purchased Pro Elite, and I have also purchased Triple Crown milled by Purina. Pro Elite is very similar to the texture and specs of the original Triple Crown. It is a little less “sticky”, and does not get as hard in cold weather. My horses all ate it without any issues. I did feel that since it was a little drier, my old guy found it slightly less palatable, but he did eat it. I have just gone back to Triple Crown, now milled by Purina. The texture is a little different than the Southern States version. It is also a bit drier, and less “sticky” than the old version - more like Pro Elite. It still has the wonderful molasses-y aroma of the old version. I have just started feeding it, so really do not know whether my guys will like it more or less than the old version. According to what I have read, it is supposed to be exactly the same nutritional content as the prior version. Since Pro Elite costs the same in my area, I am probably going to stick with Triple Crown.
Triple Crown is not the same as when Cargill manufactured it. I sent in a sample of the TC Senior to a lab to have the carbs analyzed and it came back way higher than the tag on the bag stated. This is very important information when you count on the bag information being correct when you are feeding a metabolic horse that cant have carbs. My horse got laminitis and I’m finding many others having the same problems on the TC Senior and some others by TC. Purina has messed this up. I lost my gelding and many more are putting lots of money into their horses to fight this laminitis. I trusted TC to stay the same, I even called and talked to their nutritionist and was told it will stay the same. It’s not. I have the lab report as proof and the bag it came out of. So I have switched to Pro-Elite. I have talked to Pro-Elite at length and they promised they take many measures to make sure the label matches the bag content.
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Triple Crown what? They have many products, some of which are pelleted and don’t get “sticky.”
Here we go again…did you ever post a copy of your lab report?
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First, I AM sorry you lost your horse, no matter the cause, but especially if it was due to something like you are stating.
Which lab? How do they determine NSC?
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@Howdythere - here is your old thread! So what exactly made you choose a senior feed that is meant to be fed at 5-6 lbs per day minimum, for a metabolic horse that “can’t have carbs?” You never got around to posting the entire diet of your horse.
https://www.chronofhorse.com/forum/f…is-coincidence
@cutter99 - I should have taken your bet (last post on the linked thread)
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palm beach …TC Senior is labeled for senior/metabolic / hard keeper Horses …ive been feeling it for years at the recommendation of the TC nutritionist as being a safe/good choice for senior/metabolic Horses
Her horse “can’t have carbs.”
@Howdythere That pic is all but unreadable. Upload to imgur or something and share here.
But I’ll also quote this post from Texarkana that sure seems pertinent based on what IS viewable with squinting, because it sure looks like ESC is 7 and starch is 4 and that’s right in line with TC’s advertised value.
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Horses (and people) can’t LIVE without carbs.
It’s a common saying “I have to cut out all my carbs”, or “my horse can’t have carbs”, but what it really means, what they don’t understand, is that no carbs = death. Literally.
Hay has carbs. Grass has carbs.
TC Sr is one of the lowest NSC feeds out there. There are some lower ones. There are many higher ones. It’s a valid option for a metabolic horse. Is it too much for some of the most metabolic horses? Yep. But not for most, unless they’re getting large amounts, then the total “carbs” may be too much.
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I’m on a computer and can barely make it out. I truly hate how this software uploads pictures now 
But I’ll also quote this post from Texarkana that sure seems pertinent based on what IS viewable with squinting, because it sure looks like ESC is 7 and starch is 4 and that’s right in line with TC’s advertised value.
Yep, that’s what I think I see too. ESC is 7-something and Starch is 4-something. Their website says ESC is (on average) 5.3% and starch is (on average) 6.4%, and that’s what they call NSC.
They also list WSC as 5.3% and while that number is harder to make out, it looks like it’s 5-something. Unless it’s actually 9-something, which is not a number TC uses for NSC, then not only is it not “way higher” than what TS claims, even if you are using WSC+starch, it’s a number they aren’t using anyway.
Cargill owns Purina. So arguing that TC was “better” when it was milled by the former is pretty darn ironic.
