Is there deep significance to him riding in a black coat with colour on the collar, or is that norm for men in that hunt?
Actually Aidan O’Connell is Irish, and he was just visiting with Shakerag that day and had given a clinic there (IIRC).
There are many hunts that don’t allow field members to wear scarlet even if they have their colors. Several hunts allow members to put them on black or navy jackets. I actually don’t know exactly of what hunt Aidan is a member.
Aidan
I believe Aidan has his Colors (or Colours across the Pond!) with 8 Hunts,
his champagne tops go with his Limerick Harriers Hunt, I think!
He’ll be at Genesee Valley the last week in Sept. if anyone wants to come
hunt/clinic here!
And I can check out the boot tops question for certain!
(he does have his GVH Colors!)
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Let’s assume the OP is genuinely trying to get feedback on the issue in the forum where the hunting experts reside and stick to giving her your true impressions on the topic.[/QUOTE]
That really is all the OP has been trying to do, and his curiosity is quite satisfied at this point. Thanks to all.
Thanks, Beverly and Looking South for answering my portion of the question.
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I guess, OP, you are assuming that Swann and Jaeger are not hunters. They are. So the answers are going to be the same over on this board…[/QUOTE]
I disagree. Oh, sure, JSwann’s and Jaeger’s answers will be the same, but there are other foxhunters who post here who didn’t chime in when the topic was on the eventing board. That’s not to say that their opinions won’t be similar or even exactly the same. It’s just to say that, with all due respect, JSwann and Jaeger aren’t the only voices of interest.
I belive you ment to say, Needless Markup 
The Question of Boot Tops
On the question of brown (Im assuming you are asking about tops and not just overall boot colors) For fox-hunting, with a black frock coat, a gentleman will wear white breeches and boots with brown tops , this is appropriate whether or not the gentleman has colours
Once a gentleman has been awarded his colors- he would always wear black boots with brown tops while wearing his colors.
Ladies- with colors would wear black boots with black patent tops.
as to wearing the colors - the red coat, the colors on the coat, the hunt buttons to other events if you have not been awarded your colors- I wouldnt think it is appropriate. Kind of like wearing a harvard ring if you have never gone there…
My daugher does wear her colors when competing in other disciplines. (she of course was awarded her colors) and is quite proud of them.
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On the question of brown (Im assuming you are asking about tops and not just overall boot colors) For fox-hunting, with a black frock coat, a gentleman will wear white breeches and boots with brown tops , this is appropriate whether or not the gentleman has colours[/QUOTE]
You seem to be in reasonably good company in taking this stance, but there are definitely hunters on the forum who quite doggedly insist otherwise.
I completely agree. One would never want to masquerade as a member of a hunt to which he doesn’t belong and in which he hasn’t been awarded colors.
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You seem to be in reasonably good company in taking this stance, but there are definitely hunters on the forum who quite doggedly insist otherwise.[/QUOTE]
More often than not, only members with colors are allowed to wear brown tops.
I show (Hunters) in my black patent tops (and yes I have my colors). My MFH has assured me its correct and I always hope to meet other fox-hunters this way :winkgrin:
That really is all the OP has been trying to do, and his curiosity is quite satisfied at this point. Thanks to all.
A–has mentioned that she is a female. So in the end–the question has been asked and answered.
Sitting here watching the XC phase of eventing in Hong Kong, I can’t help but notice quite a few hunt top boots on riders from countries not renowned for their fox hunting culture–Brazil, Belgium, etc.
Just a fashion statement, you think?
I was thinking the same thing. I wonder if it is just a different culture or what. They may not be aware of the significance of the hunt top boots in fox hunting and just wear them for style and/or comfort.
:lol: Cidiots. Or, rather, le cidiot for the Belgium rider, and os cidiot for the Brazilian. :lol:
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Sitting here watching the XC phase of eventing in Hong Kong, I can’t help but notice quite a few hunt top boots on riders from countries not renowned for their fox hunting culture–Brazil, Belgium, etc.[/QUOTE]
I believe Altarageous, J Swan, et al already explained on the eventing thread that the two ways to earn the right to wear hunt top boots were: a) to earn colors with a hunt that you are a member of or b) to represent your country in international competition. These riders clearly fall under b if not a as well. I’m sure those poster will correct me if I’m wrong.
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. . . . b) to represent your country in international competition. These riders clearly fall under b if not a as well.[/QUOTE]
Didn’t catch that part. Thanks.
Well, I’m still hanging on to the “cidiots” explanation. :lol:
You know I find this whole thing a bit odd. But only because, I am from a western horse background. And there, most of us know what those pretty boots w/ the tan tops mean (well, most that I know, I shouldn’t speak for the entire population that rides in western styles, as it’s a large segment). And none of us would think of wearing them (they’d look terrible w/ our sparkly shirts anyway :)). But I think it’s a lot like earning the right to wear your buckle. Sure, you can find old buckles at garage sales or on ebay… but it’s just not done to wear a buckle that you haven’t earned (a buckle for an event… not like a generic eagle buckle or something). And earning that buckle is a huge deal to people. I will admit, I’d be a little annoyed if I saw someone wearing a 1986 Winston Bull Tour Championship Buckle or something like that (that was won by Lane Frost). I am sure no one would be snubbed, but I can’t imagine anyone would think it was “cool” or looked good. Most would proabably feel a little sorry for someone like that. I mean, why go out and make up acheivements? Aren’t you proud of your own?
I just find it all very odd.
I tend to think those that falsely embellish their equestrian resume HAVE NO achievements to speak of:winkgrin:. Perhaps that is why they feel the need to be dishonest in hopes of impressing others? I dunno, I find it it very odd as well.
Hi, smokygirl and LookinSouth-
I think you’re missing the point and speaking out of less than charitable instincts. I originally raised the question of whether or not hunt top boots are appropriate in eventing precisely because I am the kind of person who has a horror of seeming in any way inauthentic. Moreover, wouldn’t it be pretty counterproductive for me (or anyone else) to, in effect, announce an intention to behave fraudulently on a public internet forum? Presumably, someone hoping to perpetrate a fraud would want to get away with it–not insure that he would be unmasked before his scheme even got off the ground. Do you see what I mean?
I’m just interested in when it is and isn’t appropriate to wear hunt top boots. There seem to be a few perspectives on that, hence the discussion that has followed my original post in the eventing forum.
Well, if you are just interested in when to where them, and when not to…
You where them when you earn them. You don’t wear them until you do. Earning them is a big deal. It is disrespectful to anyone who has earned them to do otherwise, even if you are in another event.
