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Beautiful baby…congrats! I’m curious what the parents’ colors are. Evidentially, from your certainty that this is perlino, one of them has been tested homozygous for the black gene(?). Curious…

Leah McFarlin
Winding Oaks Welsh & Sport Ponies
Morriston, FL
www.wowelsh.com

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You are absolutely right, Starbuck is a beautiful example. But I do not own him, he is owned by Red Fox Farm in Texas http://www.redfoxfarmtx.com and was the nicest example to show what a Perlino really looks like.

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Top class and exceptional colored German Warmblood Sporthorses

Fairweather - EXACTLY! - go figure … I guess in their eyes ObviouslyAPalomino was poking fun at their archaic thinking that palomino’s didnt / did exist, and to them - it WAS offensive, because I was (tongue in cheek) making fun of them and they didnt like it.

“Spot”

You have to admit in spite of Christine embarassing herself this has to be one of the best posts in awhile.
I don’t think I have seen so many nice coloured horses in one thread.
Sorry Norsire… I think I have been laughing too hard to notice it was the same site just another page.
Atom posted her Kinsky stallion who looks like a rare smokey cream. Really a very stunning looking stallion though regardless of being a perlino or a smokey cream I love the colour.
Nikita posted her stunning filly who is a new breed perlpalello now how many of us are going to forget about that for awhile
GGold posted her rare smokey black colt and all I can say is WOW what a beauty.
And all the other great coloured horses…to numerous at this point.
Little Indians horse, I wouldn’t trade him for anything very handsome boy.
AND YES MAHAL I do own the only should I say EXCLUSIVE Deutsches Reitpferd Palominotigerschecke.

Hey Spot is that Guaranteed Gold’s smokey black foal? The kid looks familiar I’ve attached a pic of a smokey black colt by our TB stallion out of a seal bay mare. Neat colt!

Gold

Coloured Horses…Oh My!
http://www.trinitybreeders.on.ca

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Sonesta - I guess, first of all, you need to think like the Jockey Club!

First name choice was: ObviouslyAPalomino
Second was: LooksPalominoToMe
and third was: All That Glitters

I guess the thought process was that name choice number 1 was insinuating that they were stupid. They didnt like it much.
Choice number 2 was not quite so direct - he might LOOK like a palomino, but since everyone knows that palomino’s DONT exist in the TB registry, he couldnt actually BE one, so that was okay to name him that…

I just went into the JC site to see if I could pull up and copy anything, but after the Lauren Efford fiasco they seem to have wiped clean any mention that he ever existed in there.

“Spot”

This is really funny…

Proud member of the Sunnieflax Clique, IDAC Clique
“Poster formerly known as SQW”

whew Kinsella - that was close!

I applied the difibralator paddles to my chest, gave myself a few kick starts, and I’m okay now …

Hope that Norsire doesnt need the same treatment!

“Spot”

Atom, I find what you say rather interesting…
<BLOCKQUOTE class=“ip-ubbcode-quote”><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR> can not give information about horses which get over my business to the new owner, if the new owner will not give the information.
please understand my, thats not only for this mare. If we sell a horse as agent and the new owner will not give information about this horses, then we can not give the information. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

because I believe you are doing business with an american who does exactly what you say you do not. You must be very disappointed in that.

Mahal,
congrats to this sweetheart. He is sooooo cute!

I’ve to confess I’m a bit confused on Modern Art’s color… He really looks like a true perlino - but as other members already wrote: Palomino x Cremello usually produces palomino or cremello.

Can you please tell me the color of Modern Art’s grandsires and granddams? Is there a buckskin or so? I know from other breds that sometimes a foal with a “crazy”, unusual color was born.

For example: Friesian horses. They are always black, but sometimes “red horses” (I think you guys call it “sorrel”?) will be born. They are very rare and very expensive - but it is possible. I also know about a grey (proofed purebred) Friesian gelding.

Friends of mine are breeding peruvian pasos. Two or three years ago, a buckskin filly was born. The sire was a rare palomino (rare in that bred, at least in Europe) and the dam was a sorrel. The filly has had a golden skin and black mane, tail and legs - a wonderful buckskin.

That’s why I am a bit confused on Modern Art’s color and I am looking forward to learn more on the color of his Grandparents and Great-Grandparents.

Have a great day
Sonja

Hi Mellanie,
there was a long thread once Just going on about that thing. Search for knabstrubbers and when you find it.

I am not into kanbis and no american, so I cannot help you with the info. I just remember it. And maybe Liz Hall who stands Appollon can help you aswell with this question.

Alexandra

I am not responsible for spelling misstacks - just my PC

http://alexandra-fischer.bei.t-online.de

[This message was edited by Erin on Jun. 25, 2003 at 10:42 PM.]

Color genetics is the very SAME in all breeds and with all horses and a buckskin cannot come out of two diluted chestnuts. Chestnut x Chestnut is always chestnut that is very old knowledge and a Palomino or Cremello are one time or two times diluted chestnuts and nothing else other, so NO a buckskin CAN NEVER come out of such a cross and neither can a Perlino therefore. You can even breed two bays together and get a chestnut, means if you breed two buckskins together you can also get a chestnut, Palomino or Cremello and not only bay, Buckskin or Perlino. If you need more specifics and very easy explained color genetics, then please see the double dilute site at http://www.doubledilute.com it is very good explained there and they have also pictures to see the horses in question. And NO I don’t believe in “flying sperm” and I don’t think a Warmblood Perlino is born in different color than a Quarter Horse Perlino. BTW you can see a Quarter Horse Perlino at Red Fox Farm http://www.redfoxfarmtx.com - their stallion Starbuck is one.

Palominos can be born Palomino with white mane and tail, can be born very light cream like Cremellos with same color of mane and tail, can be born apricot like the one of Mahal and can be born almost light chestnut and change to Palomino later. But NEVER ever a Buckskin or Perlino can result if there are only diluted chestnuts involved.

http://www.gestuet-falkenhorst.de
Top class and exceptional colored German Warmblood Sporthorses

Chelsea, the filly was sold as a foal and I don’t have adult pictures. The sire was an approved ZfDP buckskin stallion by Unkensee the Trakehner. He was approved 1989 and I sold him the same year I think, don’t really remember as it is so long ago. He had bred two Palomino mares before he was sold. He was castrated as the new owners did not want a stallion but wanted his color and jumping potential. The filly was then born the year later and was a Perlino as he is a Buckskin and the dam Palomino, so it was possible to create a Perlino. The color was not creamy as with a cremello but like ivory and the mane and tail and also some parts of the body was shimmering silvery reddish. You can see Upper Class at this site http://www.gestuet-falkenhorst.de/stallion.htm. He was a very dark buckskin.

http://www.gestuet-falkenhorst.de
Top class and exceptional colored German Warmblood Sporthorses

Atom,
I’m really amused as well as confused as to why telling us information about the mare is so secretive…very weird!

vanilla & black - you know something, I am wondering if that foal you mentioned that is supposed to be cremello, is actually a maximally expressed all white sabino instead?
The mare is an overo - doesnt say what the sire is or what color he is.
Her eyes (being ice blue) could well be that color in a sabino.

Take a look at pictures of all white sabino foals - they are virtually identical to this filly!

Ive posted pictures of Patchen Beauty and Precious Beauty - 2 maximally expressed sabino’s - could they not be mistaken for cremello’s as well if you didnt know better?

“Spot”

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Hi Palomino Leopard WB:

Sorry I had no other pictures of Christines new cremello warmblood mare.
but I know the mare, the contact to the old owner come from our business. I can say: it is a very very good mare.
But for more pictures, please ask Christine, she is the owner and the mare was her birthday present.

Mandy
Home of “Atom”
Equus Kinsky Stallion in Palomino Color

Spot, how then did you guys get “Lookspalominotome”? registered that way?

Sonesta Farms Hanoverian, Knabstrupper & Arabian Sport Horses

“Find something you love and call it work.”

<BLOCKQUOTE class=“ip-ubbcode-quote”><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by alexandra:

This topic is not only weird, it is getting educational.
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For some reason, I find the above terribly funny


If you cheapskate me into hell, I’ll haunt you good

<BLOCKQUOTE class=“ip-ubbcode-quote”><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Kinsella:
v&b, I can’t get to any “members” link… Can you copy and post the photo or post a direct link?


“It is that stupid moron’s RIGHT to be that completely and utterly WRONG.” - Dennis Miller and his thought’s about Michael Moore<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Sorry, I don’t think I’m allowed to copy that picture in this forum (copyright issue).

I don’t know how to post a direct link???
Maybe another member of this forum does have these skills???

Sonja