Really, Dressage Hub?

[Scribbler]

It’s funny, a new thread will start up about [her] or NP and newcomers will doubt that they are as [edit] as COTH claims. Then ww or NP will chime in in person and all doubts will be erased :). I followed this thread through ww identifying a COTH poster, stealing her clinic video, and posting a clunky moment on DH with invitations to trash it. In revenge for the comments here.

As far as ww fundraising, I doubt she gets anything. But the presence of a fundraising blurb every 6 months or so gives DH the surface appearance of being a legitimate forum to those who aren’t internet savvy. The same way that a backyard crazy lady hoarder rescue that asks for donations makes themselves sound like a real charity.

​​​​​I so look forward to ww and NP collaborating. Especially since they will fall out and then turn on each other. That part’s inevitable. The ensuing internet fight should be amusing: highly public, and mutually assured destruction.

[SendenHorse]

@Scribbler

As far as ww fundraising, I doubt she gets anything.

she already got some money, it’s on the Patreon site. Now it could be “SW impersonaling another person” to make it look like people give, but I posted that info so people are not taken by [her] and giving her any more money or time.

Yes,[edit] is A REAL THING, ToN. A lot has been varified here, and she has done real damage to a lot of people- things that were never connected to this board, and people IRL. Very damanging. Just because you think she is just an intenet phenomenon and a “one hit wonder” doesn’t mean she is. She has been banned from 2-3 showgrounds because of her actions there. We just get the “spillover” drama.

[Scribbler]

@SendenHorse

she already got some money, it’s on the Patreon site. Now it could be “SW impersonaling another person” to make it look like people give, but I posted that info so people are not taken by this [edit] and giving her any more money or time.

Yes, [edit] is A REAL THING, ToN. A lot has been varified here, and she has done real damage to a lot of people- things that were never connected to this board, and people IRL. Very damanging. Just because you think she is just an intenet phenomenon and a “one hit wonder” doesn’t mean she is. She has been banned from 2-3 showgrounds because of her actions there. We just get the “spillover” drama.

Absolutely. I had no idea who she was, hadn’t followed DH, and am not one to get outraged easily. I followed the thread in large part because she was at that point returning home to Alberta after burning bridges in Florida. I was curious as to whether she would be a presence in Canada.

Everything about her and her projects is wrong, is all I can say. She goes on line and says she is enacting revenge by holding various trainers up to scorn. Then next day she has a screed against internet bullying, if anyone criticizes her.

The only piece of the puzzle I can’t quite figure out is how she got any traction or credibility in Florida at the start (before she was banned from the Wellington grounds and returned home to Edmonton). I assume she presents well initially and had money to throw around for training and socializing. [edit]

[SendenHorse]

@Scribbler

I assume she presents well initially and had money to throw around for training and socializing. [edit].

She seems to come from money.

I wish this was only “internet [edit]”, I think there was some issue with the Canadian olympians and SW in FL, but I am not in the know.

But at this point you all know as much as I do, we’ll have to hope those who donate first research who they are giving money to.

[Scribbler]

@SendenHorse

She seems to come from money.

I wish this was only “internet [edit]”, I think there was some issue with the Canadian olympians and SW in FL, but I am not in the know.

But at this point you all know as much as I do, we’ll have to hope those who donate first research who they are giving money to.

Yes of course there is an IRL aspect to all this, including her attempts to ridicule her former trainer. But we the public only know about all this because she is running a website to cater to her resentments. My guess is that [edit] blowing up at their trainers, slagging everyone else who rides better than them, and quitting riding in a huff when it’s obvious they aren’t really progressing, are a dime a dozen in high end barns. If this was just hearsay about Susie’s spat with her trainer it would come and go in one of those wwyd posts: there’s a crazy girl at our barn who can’t ride very well and had a fight with our coach over money and is now claiming the coach abuses horses and keeps rabbiting on about it. Advice: walk away, don’t get involved, have her family get her back on meds. Etc.

The reason this is interesting is that SW had the social skills, IE family money, and enough internet skills to get initial interest in her project before she went openly toxic. Pre internet there was a limit to how much annoyance a fired client with a grudge could legally do once she was banned from venues. Now the internet lets trolls come out from under their rocks.

This has been clear for a while in the general internet but this is the biggest case of persistent troll blog in horses that I know of.

[SendenHorse]

@Scribbler

The reason this is interesting is that SW had the social skills, IE family money, and enough internet skills to get initial interest in her project before she went openly toxic…This has been clear for a while in the general internet but this is the biggest case of persistent troll blog in horses that I know of.

Right, I agree. I remember when she talked about her FEI aspirations, (7 yrs ago? less?) made us think there was a lot there, all smoke and mirrors in the end. She sold a good story.

Like I said before, if you strip away the stolen work, edited comments, and poor quality, the clinic videos are such a good tool for us to learn. It’s a real shame they are hitched to this person where they do harm, not good.

[BigMama1]

She must she spitting mad this weekend after watching all the Canadians she loves to hate just killing it in Saugerties. :lol:

[csaper58]

@ToN Farm

I have read the whole thread, and I have no interest in arguing with people. Bye now.

@ToN Farm If I have a question for @Allforfairsport or @SCD will you give us an answer?

Bless your wacky heart!

[Scribbler]

@Joanne

Ms Wachowich’s new friend —> Nick Peronace :rolleyes:

The really immature and irresponsible part of me wants to tell Admantane who is currently posting in Off Course to get in touch with Wackyville. I won’t of course. But maybe they could just all trainwreck in their own alternative reality and bond as Banned by COTH.

[meohmyalter]

She’s now trying to get a school teacher fired. Info on her page isn’t telling the entire story.

[BigMama1]

The same [person] who freaked out when a Canadian dressage rider allegedly called some of her “social media clients” to warn them about what an unstable and unprofessional person she is, is now emailing the employer and all the colleagues of a teacher who disagreed with her in a comment on her website?

And making the comments on her site is supposedly “victim shaming” and “bullying” but essentially stalking the reader online and harassing her employers is A-Ok?

[edit]

[SendenHorse]

@BigMama1

The same [person] who freaked out when a Canadian dressage rider allegedly called some of her “social media clients” to warn them about what an unstable and unprofessional person she is, is now emailing the employer and all the colleagues of a teacher who disagreed with her in a comment on her website?

And making the comments on her site is supposedly “victim shaming” and “bullying” but essentially stalking the reader online and harassing her employers is A-Ok?

[edit]

what the heck??? That is totally outrageous!!! I hope the arguments die a quick death, but still, this is atrocious.

[Reddfox]

Sigh, and she reposted my video as a TBT.

[alibi_18]

@Reddfox

Sigh, and she reposted my video as a TBT.

Can’t you tell her to remove it?

If not, you want ‘‘us’’ to let her know to take it down? Which one is it?

[Reddfox]

No, it’s not worth it, and it’s not worth the crazy backlash. I have asked for it to be removed and went through that crazy train ride already. Unfortunately, with YouTube’s rules, I can claim copyright infringement, and they will remove it for a set amount of time, but then UNLESS you show proof that you are filing suit against the infringement (not worth my time or money), the video will go back up. YouTube’s rules are shit when it comes to protecting people against infringement.

[trubandloki]

@BigMama1

The same wacko who freaked out when a Canadian dressage rider allegedly called some of her “social media clients” to warn them about what an unstable and unprofessional person she is, is now emailing the employer and all the colleagues of a teacher who disagreed with her in a comment on her website?

And making the comments on her site is supposedly “victim shaming” and “bullying” but essentially stalking the reader online and harassing her employers is A-Ok?

I guess Crazy Town is open again

Gosh, she does sound just like her new best friend (NP). Who knew there was that much crazy out there.

[Bogey2]

we have seen people like her in the past on social media…unfortunately until they themselves suffer something like what they shame people for they won’t quit. [edit]

[Scribbler]

@Bogey2

we have seen people like her in the past on social media…unfortunately until they themselves suffer something like what they shame people for they won’t quit. [edit]

I think the [edit] is quite common on line in other interest areas, and indeed have caused even more anguish and drama and even violence IRL than [edit]. Some of the stuff in the gaming community directed at specific women, and indeed some of the stuff around the edges of the last election, and some efforts at doxing or tar and feathering folks on line, is very ugly. There was a mass shooting in a DC pizza parlour that was the direct result of deliberate internet political rumors. I’m not sure that there is a way to take them down; some of them (or at least their enablers) even end up with government appointments these days.

Then there is the whole area of celebrities having public “dissing” contests in social or conventional media. Very rap or diva style.

If you look at [her] other blogs and FB efforts, I think she imagines herself the Kim Kardashian of the horse world, always in the center of calling out the haters (or creating the hate, it doesn’t really matter).

I would say it is a combination of [edit] coming into contact with a social media world that is full of dark pockets that celebrate and encourage extreme ugliness on line. Plus a youth culture that has picked up from rap culture in particular the idea that bragging and “dissing” and “fake it til you make it” is attractive to an audience.

However, the horse world is mostly adults. And the horse world is very practical and pragmatic. It’s clear enough if you can ride or not, or compete or not! That is why most of [her] audience seems to be composed of people that don’t ride seriously, and why she plays to the PETA types who think all riding is evil. I don’t think anyone much in the horse world will ever take her seriously again, not if she’s been expelled from Wellington and is fighting with the Canadian dressage team (she’s Canadian). Everybody knows.

It is still however worth keeping an eye on her blog for copyright violations and various levels of slander.

She has the capacity to be an annoyance.

She does not have the capacity to be an influencer.

[BigMama1]

I would suggest that if a person feels they are repeatedly and frequently the target of “bullies,” “attacks,” “haters” and other such drama on a regular basis with no other contributing factors, a search for the common denominator may be in order. And in most cases, the common denominator is themselves.

[Highflyer]

I’m not sure anyone could read some of those recent blog posts and not know NP is [edit] either.