The sad thing is, they really do sell. People get loans for puppies, which just blows my mind.
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What difference does it make to you?
Well, to me personally in my every day life, none.
But it sure would make a difference to a dog in a shelter. And I care about that, as I would hope you do too.
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Hold up, weren’t you just claiming that everyone breeding and buying Puggles are doing so because they’re so concerned that Pugs are inherently unhealthy?
But now it’s “people like what they like”?
Those are super different things. Which is it?
I don’t think most people here who care about dogs would be upset about Puggles if the sire and dam were screened for genetic health problems and proven in some way. Hell, even a CGC.
Indiscriminate breeding is the problem. Producing puppies with genetic defects from parents with poor temperament. Which is a really sizable chunk of designer cross breeds. Why are you okay with that?
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As one of the Founders of the Poodle Club of America Foundation, I disagree wholeheartedly.
By the way, PCAF was founded in 1989 so this is not a recent endeavor.
Here is a quote from the website (though there is much much more to read there):
The PCAF and the Poodle Club of America are separate organizations, we are partners and support each other’s missions. Among PCAF goals:
1. To foster and promote the public’s knowledge and appreciation of dogs in general and Poodles in particular;
2. To further understanding of the diseases, genetic anomalies and injuries that affect dogs in general and Poodles in particular;
3. To support and promote study of and research on the character, history, genetics, breeding and related characteristics that establish the Poodle as a distinct breed of dog;
4. To establish a database/library of educational and resource materials on the Poodle;
5. To develop and make available to the general public and the Fancy information about the proper care, treatment, breeding, health, development and training of Poodles.
Since its inception, PCAF has funded well over $700,000 in research grants to fight health problems common in Poodles and other dogs and to identify genetic causes of Poodle disease. Advances resulting from PCAF-funded studies have included new DNA tests that allow breeders to avoid the devastating genetic diseases neonatal encephalopathy and prcd-progressive retinal atrophy. PCAF contributes funding to many AKC Canine Health Foundation-sponsored projects with the potential to benefit Poodles, such as the current CHF Epilepsy Research Initiative and the CHF Bloat Initiative aimed at ending the toll of bloat and torsion. Much of the funding we donate goes directly to universities and other institutions for studies of specific disorders in Poodles. Please see our Home and Samples Needed pages for news on projects we fund. Exciting Poodle-health research is under way!
The recent (Thanks to all who participated!) PCAF Poodle Health Survey drew responses for 848 dogs and will help us focus our future efforts on areas of greatest need.
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You’re joking right? Because the overbreeding of these “designer” mutts means more regular mutts in shelters will die. It should make a difference to anyone with a heart and a conscience.
People are only getting these dogs because they’re cute. Most have no specific job. They’re just couch potatoes. A regular old mutt can do that job perfectly. I have three that prove me right.
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Those designer mutts end up in shelters, too, in droves. Just because they have a fancy name and cost a lot doesn’t mean they don’t get dumped 
I just checked my local pound. First dog listed is a Puggle, sigh.
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I sense that I’m speaking into a vacuum here, so I’m going to just let myself out. Thanks.
That is a matter of taste I guess. I love beagles…was owned by two for their life span. Puggle puppies are a little cute (IMO) but the adults not so much…not when you have had a real beagle. I want another beagle but am just not quite in the right place for a dog at this moment. I am sure as heck not paying an exorbitant price for any mutt. Someone is making money hand and fist around here. It seems like 40% of the dogs I see are doodles of some kind, 40% pitties and the rest other dogs.
Susan
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Boy, beagles are tough. I salute you. I hope all these folks clamoring for Envigo beagles are prepared. I’m glad they’re stepping up to be heroes, but beagles…especially in an apartment or dense suburban area…are not easy.
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The bay I’ll give you – you don’t want close neighbors. But they tend to be very sweet and family friendly, overall. I also made sure mine were walked – on a leash – every day. Good for me too!
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Thank you so much for your work with the poodle club. I’m currently looking for one, and the clear health testing guidelines make it a lot easier to filter out breeders who know nothing about the required health tests.
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I was today years old when I learned this. Thank you!
That would be incorrect for a lot of breeders. Conformation is important to soundness in dogs just as it is in horses. A lot of breeders also produce dogs that get titles in Obedience, Field Trials, and dog sports.
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You’re welcome. By the way the Poodle Club of America website has a great breeder referral section as well as tons of other information.
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Well, that depends on the breed of dog. GSDs come to mind. That show ring stance is not conducive to long term soundness
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I had corgis too, 30 years ago, when they weren’t as insanely popular as they are now. Then I found Aussies 20 years ago, and they were “my” breed.
I have known a couple of lovely English Shepherds, so I can absolutely understand your attraction to them!
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People say this all the time. What is the evidence that it is not conducive to long term soundness?
A GSD has high hocks to allow for a flying, effortless trot. How does that impact soundness?
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Yes, I’m actually talking to Richard Bohannan about a future litter. I will also look in FL but I want to take my time and consider my choices carefully, and he came pretty highly recommended. I also have friends in NC that I wouldn’t mind visiting :).
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The gait looks more Big Lick than sweeping. The strain on the back and hocks is obvious.
There’s a reason you never see a show dog doing other work - no protection trainers will buy an American line that doesn’t have heavy heavy European influence.
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