Spinoff- Thoroughbred Stallions; a list

I have always been a fan of Big Brown too. Even when he was racing and in racing fit condition, I always admired his overall build and quality of bone. I know he had feet issues while training on dirt but he is currently barefoot. He has that beautiful neck and head/front end that so many admire in this thread. He’s nice and straight in the front end too, no club feet, not toed in and not toed out.

Video here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G_HpcLy9bvM

HIs sire Boundary is a Danzig son from a Damascus x Round Table mare. His dam is by Nureyev x Lear Fan (Roberto).

His only truly noted son on the track is Dortmund so by now there should be plenty of offspring available off the track. Has anyone seen any?

For the AP Indy fans, there is a son standing in NY Named Stephanoatsee. He is stunning and so typical of why everyone loves the AP INdy’s. HIs dam is by Unbridled (Fappiano) and 2nd dam is by Lear Fan (Roberto)

there is a nice video here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B-_YsaIY5F4

Fred, you forgot to mention AFR’s success in the hunter ring! I used to love watching him go in the Working Hunters, and know many of his kids are excelling in this area of sport as well!

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Another stallion that caught my eye was TENCENDUR in NY

He is by the Medaglia D Oro son, Warriors Reward. His dam was by Hennessy and out of a Mt Livermore mare. He is still growing and filling out but he has a lovely, lofty walk, free flowing from the shoulder. Nice video of him here:

(He has a nice piaffe too :slight_smile: :slight_smile: )

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H1RM5te2-Fg

JAPAN is also a son of Medaglia D Oro standing in NY. His dam is by Capote. 2nd dam is by Lyphard then Mr Prospector. Really neat lines on JAPAN. He has a massive front end, he is built extremely up hill with a high neck set.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9-18fvXo90A

Fans of Giants Causeway and AP Indy will like this guy:

GIANT SURPRISE. standing in NY he is a son of Giants Causeway and out of an AP Indy mare. 2nd dam is by Afleet. His front legs are pretty messeg up from racing (you can see the scars up his front legs), and its a shame because hes a nicely built stallion. but he is a leading sire in 2015
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n0j2kOarNC4

Here is a video of DR LARGE (AP INDY) who I covered earlier in this thread, not a super heavy stallion and well mannered. Nice boy
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ExeCI2R1pg4

ARTRAGEOUS Is a TB stallion successfully competing and sired offspring who are for sport. He is by Artax (Marquetry) and out of a mare by Alysheba.

http://floridasporthorse.com/listing/artrageous-2002-thoroughbred-stallion-eventer-jumper-hunter-foals/

Marquetry lines are well revered for sport. Denny Emerson has covered this on more than one occasion

SKYLORD standing in IN is out of a Marquetry mare and by Sky Mesa
http://www.bloodhorse.com/stallion-register/stallions/165771/skylord

most of his most successful offspring raced in japan and stood their stud careers there; unfortunately.

there are several stallions available in an online service auction for very affordable prices. I have provided the link to each if anyone is interested.SOme of these end within the next 2 days so take note if interested!

BAHAMIAN SQUALL. By Gone West (Mr Prospector x Secretariat) our of Sotrm Bird x Best Turn mare. He is standing in FL for 5000 but his auction starts at $750.00 with no reserve
http://www.thoroughlybred.com/item-13270/Bahamian-Squall-Stallion-Season-Location-FL

BLACK CRY. Irish bred stallion by Street Cry. Dam is Zafonic (Gone West) x Danzic x Vaguely Noble. Standing in PA for $1250. His bid starts at $200 with no reserve
http://www.thoroughlybred.com/item-13272/Black-Cry-FR-Season-1-Stallion-Season-Location-PA

DR LARGE who I shared the video and info of earlier in this thread is also available for a starting bid of $500. Really like him, his temperament, etc.
http://www.thoroughlybred.com/item-13276/Dr-Large-Stallion-Season-Location-NY

DRILL son of Lawyer Ron ( Langfuhr) out of a Storm Cat x Fappiano mare. Bid starts at 500.00. He stands in FL
http://www.thoroughlybred.com/item-13277/Drill-Stallion-Season-Location-FL

FIRST DUDE> bid starts at 3500 but if anyone is willing to pony up that fee, its a steal. He stands for 10k and is very well regarded as a sire of sport horses (see earlier in this thread
http://www.thoroughlybred.com/item-13282/First-Dude-Stallion-Season-Location-FL

MAESTIC CITY. son of City Zip (who everone seems to like earlier in this thread!). Dam is by Meadowlake. Opening bid is 500.00
http://www.thoroughlybred.com/item-13294/Majestic-City-Stallion-Season-Location-NY

MISSION IMPAZIBLE. Opening bid is 2500. His normal fee is 7500 Wonderful stallion
http://www.thoroughlybred.com/item-13296/Mission-Impazible-Stallion-Season-Location-NY

MORNING LINE. Opening bid is 3000. Son of Tiznow out of an AP Indy mare. http://www.thoroughlybred.com/item-13298/Morning-Line-Stallion-Season-Location-KY

[QUOTE=DarkBayUnicorn;9024748]
Fred, you forgot to mention AFR’s success in the hunter ring! I used to love watching him go in the Working Hunters, and know many of his kids are excelling in this area of sport as well![/QUOTE]

Thank you DarkBayUnicorn!

I did forget to mention A Fine Romance’s own success in the show ring, beginning with showing on the line, briefly as an eventer with Peter Gray - who felt he was a “Team horse” and “one of the best”. It was my decision to change his career path to show hunter, and he was remarkable and consistent, combining showing in the Working Hunters with his breeding career, often going literally from the breeding shed to the show ring on the same day.
I think that is yet another testament to his incredible intelligence and kind temperament.
It is one thing to have athleticism and jumping ability, it is another thing for a stallion to be able to compete as a mature breeding stallion.

Funny Story: I had just switched Fred over from eventing, and he was in the ring at Palgrave. I was standing behind two professionals, who didn’t know I was standing there.
Prof 1: I love this horse, an incredible athlete. I want to breed to him.
Prof 2: I love him too. I saw him at the Royal. I can’t believe she was so stupid to event him…

At the time he was competing he was already one of the few TBs in that division, and the only stallion.
I felt it was important that a breeding stallion have a real show record. Not just to attract breeders - but to support the people who bred to him.
Most people at the shows were prospective buyers, and they could see this horse go, day after day, week after week, and NEVER put a foot wrong.

As one professional said to me : “he is a very special horse. He just goes in the ring, picks up that canter, and jumps everything with that incredible jump”.

Thanks again , Dk BayU. It means a lot to have people remember him.

Perhaps the stallion I like most in this thread is also available in the service auction!

PERFECT SOUL. Opening bid is $300!. Son of Saddlers Wells out of A Secretariat daughter
http://www.thoroughlybred.com/item-13310/Perfect-Soul-IRE-Stallion-Season-Location-KY

SLUMBER is available very cheap in this sale too. The british bred turf horse by Cacique by DANEHILL. Dam is by Woodman. Second dam by Seattle Slew
http://www.thoroughlybred.com/item-13318/Slumber-GB-Stallion-Season-Location-KY

SMARTY JONES: sires them with fancy movement and good temperments. Those who have retrained them, love them but they are few and hard to find for second careers. Hes available in the sale. Starting bid is $1000
http://www.thoroughlybred.com/item-13319/Smarty-Jones-Stallion-Season-Location-KY

UPTOWN CHARLYBROWN: Available for $500 bid in PA
http://www.thoroughlybred.com/item-13327/Uptowncharlybrown-Stallion-Season-Location-PA

GIANT SURPRISE is also listed in the auction for a 500.00 starting bid. he stands in NY.
http://www.thoroughlybred.com/item-13333/Giant-Surprise-Stallion-Season-Location-NY

MICROMANAGE. son of Medaglia D oro standing in NY. His dam line is a bit different. NO Mr Prospector blood in his pedigree. Starting bid is $500. Very balanced stallion typical of Doro sons
http://www.thoroughlybred.com/item-13335/Micromanage-Stallion-Season-Location-NY

BULL MARKET> fans of Holy BUll will like him. He is a son of Holy BUll standing in KY. HIs dam is by Capote out of a Northern Dancer mare. Great lineage here. He is on offer for a $500 starting bid. His fee is typically private
http://www.thoroughlybred.com/item-13339/Bull-Market-Stallion-Season-Location-KY

REVOLUTIONARY is available for $500 starting bid
http://www.thoroughlybred.com/item-13348/Revolutionary-Stallion-Season-Location-KY

ANDIRON is also available in the auction. a son of AP Indy, his dam is by DANZIG> Again, no Mr Prospector blood here. He is a lovely type of stallion. His opening bid is $300 and he stands in PA. Check him out:
http://www.thoroughlybred.com/item-13351/Andiron-Season-1-Stallion-Season-Location-PA

SOUTHERN SUCCESS> for the fans of Dixieland Band, here is a son. Dam is by AP Indy. Second dam by Irish Tower. Located in PA, starting bid is $200.00
http://www.thoroughlybred.com/item-13364/Southern-Success-Season-1-Stallion-Season-Location-PA

XIXIXI: for fans of American Pharoah, here is his 1/2 brother (same dam). He stands in PA and is available for starting bid of 1200. He is by Maimonides
http://www.thoroughlybred.com/item-13374/Xixixi-Season-1-Stallion-Season-Location-PA

BULLSBAY. an interesting son of TIZNOW. His dam is by Lord Carson (Carson City) and out of a TURKOMAN mare. I’d like to see video of him but his photo is quite impressive
http://www.thoroughlybred.com/item-13386/Bullsbay-Stallion-Season-Location-PA

GOLDEN LAD> a son of Medaglia D Oro. Hes very handsome like his sire! Dam is by Seeking the Gold then Storm Cat. http://www.thoroughlybred.com/item-13388/Golden-Lad-Stallion-Season-Location-MD

BUFFUM. I covered him earlier in the thread. Son of BERNARDINI. Dam is a Storm Cat. Located in MD> bid starts at 800
http://www.thoroughlybred.com/item-13389/Buffum-Stallion-Season-Location-MD

ATREIDES is also available in the auction. Medaglia D’Oro x Wild Rush x Unbridled.
http://www.thoroughlybred.com/item-13399/Atreides-Stallion-Season-Location-KY

AP MILLION. son of AP Indy out of a mare by Forty Niner. 2nd dam is a Cox Ridge. Located in AR for a fee of 750.00 Starting BId is 300. He is a lovely type pf stallion, Looks like he lives at someone’s home farm by his photo so would like be available to sport mares!!
http://www.thoroughlybred.com/item-13178/A.P.-MILLION-Stallion-Season-Location-AR

BURNING ROMA (Covered a few posts ago). http://www.thoroughlybred.com/item-13181/BURNING-ROMA-Stallion-Season-Location-FL

LENTENOR is available for 500.00. Updated photo of him here, he looks lovely
http://www.thoroughlybred.com/item-13200/LENTENOR-Stallion-Season-Location-IN

AENEAS, son of Capote is available for 300.00
http://www.thoroughlybred.com/item-13225/AENEAS-Stallion-Season-Location-OH

DAVID COPPERFIELD available for 300.00. hes in Ohio
http://www.thoroughlybred.com/item-13227/DAVID-COPPERFIELD-Stallion-Season-Location-OH

LOUIE VILLAIN reminds me of the same build as FRED (AFR). Son of AP INdy.
http://www.thoroughlybred.com/item-13232/LOUIE-VILLAIN-Stallion-Season-Location-OH

MIXMASTER who I absolutely adore is available for 300.00 in OH
http://www.thoroughlybred.com/item-13233/MIXMASTER-Stallion-Season-Location-OH

KENNEDY, another son of AP INdy available in OK for 300
http://www.thoroughlybred.com/item-13238/KENNEDY-Stallion-Season-Location-OK

GIACAMO by holy bull available for 1000
http://www.thoroughlybred.com/item-13240/GIACOMO-Stallion-Season-Location-OR

Hope the auction links are helpful to anyone wanting to breed to any of these beauties. If you are local to them, perhaps youre close enough to view them in person

All I can say to all of this is that there have been two successful 4* eventing TBs in the US who have gone to international games in 2014 and 2018–Donner and Blackfoot Mystery. Neither have a single line to Seattle Slew or Mr. P. Neither is inbred to Northern Dancer.
Donner: http://sporthorse-data.com/d?i=11062224
Blackfoot Mystery: http://www.pedigreequery.com/blackfoot+mystery

I’ll willingly admit that Courageous Comet was a Fappiano sire line, but the rest of his pedigree lacked Slew or Northern Dancer duplicates.
http://www.pedigreequery.com/courageous+comet

Poggio II–Represented the US at the Athens and Hong Kong Olympics and at the Jerez2002 and Aachen 2006 WEGs. He was third at Aachen in 2006.
http://www.pedigreequery.com/chesterstimetoofly

Ingrid Klimke’s Sleep Late:
http://www.pedigreequery.com/sleep+late2
Olympics at Sydney and Athens, WEG at Aachen. Same tail female line as Bonne Cause.

Boyd Martin’s Neville Bardos:
http://www.pedigreequery.com/hurtle3

The day that any Seattle Slew line horse makes an international team or finishes in the top ten at a 4* I’ll believe that it’s a good line for Eventing.

I agree with Lord Helpus that the best American line for Sport, as has been well proved over the years, has to be Royal Charger (best through Best Turn)–and his 3/4 brother Nasrullah.

Clifton Lush: http://www.pedigreequery.com/plato15
Clifton Promise: http://www.horsetelex.com/horses/pedigree/1482217
TS Jamaimo: http://sporthorse-data.com/d?d=TS+Jamamino&x=18&y=13
Arctic Soul: http://sporthorse-data.com/d?d=Arctic+Soul&x=24&y=10
Should point out that his sireline Topsider was out of Drumtop, who was also the dam of Drums of Time who had two horses competing in one Badminton or Burghley not so many years ago. And he does have a Northern Dancer double.
Simply Priceless: http://sporthorse-data.com/d?d=Simply+Priceless&x=21&y=8 He finished 14th at Burghley and 8th at Rolex.

Out of Place, Blackfoot Mystery’s sire, only died in 2010. There must be get left that, if mares, are still breeding and, if male, are still around.

SEA ACCOUNTS IS STILL BREEDING!! I don’t get on COTH much anymore and received a PM on his FB page about this thread.

Cyriz is 18 this year and going strong. He didn’t compete last year due to things going on in my life. The plan for this year is for him to carry my old behind around at Novice and the goal is the Novice 3-day in Aug. at CHP!! Doesn’t sound like a bit deal, except that he and I went to my first show in 27 yrs. last fall and finished 3rd at BN after jumping a handful of times!

My website is out of date, but he has a Facebook page with over 17k followers! The link is www.facebook.com/SeaAccounts

He is approved AHS, HV, ATA, GOV, RPSI and ARS. He is listed with JC, AQHA, APHA, APtHA, PHR, AHA, ISHNA (I think that’s the right initials for Irish Sporthorses, lol), Connemara and I’m looking into AWS at a mare owner’s request.

He competed at the CIC** level in eventing (multiple top 5 finishes at Int and multiple wins at Prelim) and through Fourth level test three (63%) in dressage. We planned to do Advanced and PSG, but one trainer relocated and then I had some health issues that used the show budget.

While Coconut Grove was the first TB stallion approved by AHS, Cyriz was the first North American-bred TB approved! He was also the first TB stallion approved by ATA in the 14 years prior to his approval.

Interestingly, he and Sea Lion are related. And another relative show GP dressage with Sylvia Martin (I’m blanking on his name…also Sea something).

Cyriz is well known for crossing with a wide variety of mares and his stellar temperament. And he very consistently passes that temperament and work ethic on. Almost all of his offspring are owned and shown by ammys and kids. He has a few who have done Prelim thus far, multiple H/J champions up to 3’6" hunters and 1.3 m jumpers, a couple foxhunters and many lower level packer types.

His stud fee is $1500 with discounts available for early payment, premium mares, etc. and fresh and frozen is available. He will be in a few of the stallion auctions this spring.

2017 will be his largest foal crop to date and there are already more mares booked to him for this year than last! I am hoping that I get a stallion prospect or two out of my personal crop this year. I seem to get a lot more fillies than colts, but I put a special request in to a few of my favorite mares, so we’ll see if they cooperate!

Since I don’t post here much anymore, the website or facebook are the best ways to reach me.

Happy breeding!!

SEA ACCOUNTS IS STILL BREEDING!!!

SEA ACCOUNTS IS STILL BREEDING!! I don’t get on COTH much anymore and received a PM on his FB page about this thread.

Cyriz is 18 this year and going strong. He didn’t compete last year due to things going on in my life. The plan for this year is for him to carry my old behind around at Novice and the goal is the Novice 3-day in Aug. at CHP!! Doesn’t sound like a bit deal, except that he and I went to my first show in 27 yrs. last fall and finished 3rd at BN after jumping a handful of times!

My website is out of date, but he has a Facebook page with over 17k followers! The link is www.facebook.com/SeaAccounts

He is approved AHS, HV, ATA, GOV, RPSI and ARS. He is listed with JC, AQHA, APHA, APtHA, PHR, AHA, ISHNA (I think that’s the right initials for Irish Sporthorses, lol), Connemara and I’m looking into AWS at a mare owner’s request.

He competed at the CIC** level in eventing (multiple top 5 finishes at Int and multiple wins at Prelim) and through Fourth level test three (63%) in dressage. We planned to do Advanced and PSG, but one trainer relocated and then I had some health issues that used the show budget.

While Coconut Grove was the first TB stallion approved by AHS, Cyriz was the first North American-bred TB approved! He was also the first TB stallion approved by ATA in the 14 years prior to his approval.

Interestingly, he and Sea Lion are related. And another relative show GP dressage with Sylvia Martin (I’m blanking on his name…also Sea something).

Cyriz is well known for crossing with a wide variety of mares and his stellar temperament. And he very consistently passes that temperament and work ethic on. Almost all of his offspring are owned and shown by ammys and kids. He has a few who have done Prelim thus far, multiple H/J champions up to 3’6" hunters and 1.3 m jumpers, a couple foxhunters and many lower level packer types.

His stud fee is $1500 with discounts available for early payment, premium mares, etc. and fresh and frozen is available. He will be in a few of the stallion auctions this spring.

2017 will be his largest foal crop to date and there are already more mares booked to him for this year than last! I am hoping that I get a stallion prospect or two out of my personal crop this year. I seem to get a lot more fillies than colts, but I put a special request in to a few of my favorite mares, so we’ll see if they cooperate!

Since I don’t post here much anymore, the website or facebook are the best ways to reach me.

Happy breeding!!

excellent news on Sea Accounts! Sound slike his 2017 foal crop is in an exciting one!

Vineyridge; I have always liked Cox’s Ridge in the pedigree (Blackfoot Mystery). At least one of the stallions I’ve posted in this thread has Cox’s RIdge up close

My point is that if you are looking for a sport TB, look for lines that have succeeded at the highest levels. Look at both the horse and his line’s performance results.

Dance With Ravens is a top sire of Steeplechase horses. Hardy, long lasting and good jumpers. He is by AP Indy and out of a Danzig mare. He was moved to Saudi Arabia in 2016 which is a shame but he stood last in MD.
http://www.pedigreequery.com/dance+with+ravens

In the UK and Europe; the Sadler’s Wells line is highly sought after for good jumpers.

So in hindsight; I’d be looking at any pedigree with these sires in them as you could find or breed something very quality from these lines.

In another thread on COTH,

WROTE was discussed. A handsome irish bred son of HIgh Chapparal (Saddlers Wells). 2nd dam is by Kris and dam is by a Danzig son.

http://www.northweststud.com/horses/wrote-9754.html

The reason why I mentioned such sires as Giacamo is because of his sire Holy Bull who’s sire was Great Above. Great Above was a revered sire of steeplechase and jump horses and his offspring often found themselves in the eventing ranks. I am very surprised that since Giacamo’s fee is so cheap and affordable now; why some haven’t considered him.

There has been talk in previous threads that Darby Dan is very accommodating to all types of breeders so if you are interested in breeding to one of their stallions (ah’hem PERFECT SOUL), please inquire! There was talk that they might be willing to do AI on him also?

one sire I did find that is VERY interesting in my research is

PERFECT SHOWER. He is by Perfect soul (by Sadlers Wells out of a mare by Secretariat.). His dam is by Miswaki. 2nd dam by Bold Forbes. He was a successful turf horse. From what I can find hes the only son of perfect soul available in the states
He stands in ARK for $500.
http://www.bloodhorse.com/stallion-register/stallions/166015/perfect-shower

What do you know about Jump Over the Moon? http://www.allbreedpedigree.com/jump+over+the+moon

In part of a pedigree that I am curious about.

Kanace was also the dam of Jig Time by Native Dancer who was a great American Steeplechasing line.

I own a full brother to Lentenor/Nicanor who is a gelding. he’s DIVINE. I understand he was a monster as a stallion, but man is he such a good boy who has a bright future ahead of him.
Lovely to be around and train. Above average trot, but doesn’t blow you away, but a to-die-for canter.

great news fairweather! keep us updated on him!