That's a twist

[Graymaresrule]

@YankeeDuchess

I think that the wine and fine posts happen when a poster realizes that they’ve pushed “post” on a nasty or stupid post to readily and have some regret. They are desperate to burnish their creds as having a bare minimum of humanity, but naturally cannot bring themselves to apologize or retract a post. That simply is not done. It would cause loss of (anonymous) face.

@Joanne
had a series of particularly slimy posts then pulled out some elaborate crystal stemware for her crisp white sparkling wine. Also refused to take responsibility for posts by sticking her nose in the air, gathering what shreds of dignity she could, and saying “I will not rise to the bait”. You lot seem to resort to that particular line often.

Henceforth, when someone retreats to the cutesy wine and dine section of the thread, I will interpret that poster as wishing to apologize for previously posted drivel, but being “not [human] enough” to admit it. Note use of square brackets inside a quote.

Henceforth, when someone flounces off saying.”I will not rise to the bait”, I will interpret that to mean, “I have no answer for that”, whether or not they flounce back with wine.

Of course they could simply delete the offending post and unless someone has quoted it the post is then gone. That is the reason some people will quote a post with a comment like “QFP”

[hank]

@CanteringCarrot

I’ve gone back and forth on an Instant Pot or similar device for awhile now, but I still haven’t decided if I want one or not.

I absolutely did NOT want one. Someone gave it to me as a gift. It Sat in the cupboard for months. One day, I decided to try it before I gave it away…OMG!!! Chicken is my favorite thing to cook in it, but I can make chili in under an hour, when I forgot to thaw the meat. It is a lifesaver, and I don’t know what I would do without it now.

[Gestalt]

@Dee-Vee

@initiate1987 And we shall call it “Turkey à la Twist.”

Brilliant!

[Sparky]

@YankeeDuchess

I would think equivalent of walking out of the room would be NOT POSTING.

Posting recipes is a way of not engaging in the topic of the thread, because you’ve posted something you regret or have been hammered by an obnoxious person, but you refuse to leave the room.

[Sparky]

Wrong again

[NEEDS_A_NAP]

“Elaborate crystal stemware” is not a big deal. Anyone who ever had a grandma probably has a whole cupboard full of the stuff that they cannot bear to throw away, and cannot even give away as wedding presents to their daughters!

Gems vs. stems? Confused.

[YankeeDuchess]

@iris2006

The girlfriend threatening to leave MB unless he evicted you from the property makes sense to me, but shooting you for only that reason only makes sense to me if he did it suddenly in anger. Planning over days to murder you and your BF seems like a whole different irrational thing. But it sounds like you are saying you have recordings of him and other(s) planning to murder you?

Was there also a potential monetary gain for him or did you have some evidence of illegal activity that threatened him and/or his GF? I know you said he was bullying you, and had suddenly changed the training agreement you had with him to charge you more money. You also said you thought he had money problems and you mentioned some insurance proceeds he allegedly received.

And then the weird congratulating you for a bronze medal when they should have known there was a problem with that.

You probably can’t answer these questions, but I can’t make sense of him planning your murder and thinking he could get away with it.

Also, this is a weird question, but do you have any insight on MB saying, “I had a good life” when he was arrested? Wondering when he thought his good life had ended, at the time he shot you, or some earlier point?

I watched some video of MB’s defense attorney. He has quite a dramatic court presence.

Something no one has remarked on is the purpose of MBs 911 calls. While he does refer to LK and RG in one as “squatters” in one, the reference to squatters was sort of offhand, and not the reason for the 911 call.

At the beginning of the call, MB says something about having clients who refuse to sign documents.

Who, aside from MB, calls 911 to deal with clients, or anyone, who refuses to sign documents?

LK has said that MB was trying to raise all sorts of fees. It does not surprise me at all that a BNT would attempt to further exploit a big bucks amateur client - I’ve been exploited or attempted exploited by several trainers, albeit at a much lower level.

If you as a BNT want to up the level of exploitation (financial, of course), it is not OK to put a gun to their head to force them to sign. And he didn’t.

But calling 911 because LK or LK and RG would not sign agreeing to higher fees? That is totally out of line. Sounds like heavy duty harassment to pressure them to sign. Sounds like bullying.

Doesn’t look to me that the dispute was about tenancy of the house, given that the flood damage had been repaired. Looks like the dispute was financial exploitation and possibly financial fraud.

There is a lot of financial exploitation of amateur clients of various degrees. That part is ultra plausible.

Put calling 911 because your well funded client won’t sign a piece of paper? Sounds nuts to me.

And however much you lot want/need to hate on LK, the exploited amateur rider in me has to give credit to an amateur client who, well, refused to be intimidated by a BNT who resorted to 911 to pressure her to pay EVEN MORE.

[mswillie]

@NEEDS A NAP

“Elaborate crystal stemware” is not a big deal. Anyone who ever had a grandma probably has a whole cupboard full of the stuff that they cannot bear to throw away, and cannot even give away as wedding presents to their daughters!

Gems vs. stems? Confused.

When I saw gems I had a mental image of someone pouring sparkling wine over a handful of loose cut sapphires, diamonds, rubies, emeralds. This thread is so off the rails on a crazy train that that is exactly what I thought was meant. It didn’t even occur to me that it might have been a typo for “stems”.

[initiate1987]

@Dee-Vee

@initiate1987 And we shall call it “Turkey à la Twist.”

Love it!

[YankeeDuchess]

@Gestalt

I know! I came back to look for the rib recipe and I find what seems like a couple of junk yard dogs barking at the fence.

 Junk yard dogs are guard dogs, and they’re good at what they do, no?

[YankeeDuchess]

@NEEDS A NAP

“Elaborate crystal stemware” is not a big deal. Anyone who ever had a grandma probably has a whole cupboard full of the stuff that they cannot bear to throw away, and cannot even give away as wedding presents to their daughters!

Gems vs. stems? Confused.

LK was parodying a post by Joanne, in which Joanne stopped bashing people momentarily in order to flounce offstage with a “a well chilled sparking white in crystal stemware”. No, it was not a great parody, but you wouldn’t get it if you hadn’t read the posts by Joanne, etc.

[x-halt-salute]

@YankeeDuchess

I think that the wine and fine posts happen when a poster realizes that they’ve pushed “post” on a nasty or stupid post to readily and have some regret. They are desperate to burnish their creds as having a bare minimum of humanity, but naturally cannot bring themselves to apologize or retract a post. That simply is not done. It would cause loss of (anonymous) face.

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Henceforth, when someone retreats to the cutesy wine and dine section of the thread, I will interpret that poster as wishing to apologize for previously posted drivel, but being “not [human] enough” to admit it. Note use of square brackets inside a quote.

Henceforth, when someone flounces off saying.”I will not rise to the bait”, I will interpret that to mean, “I have no answer for that”, whether or not they flounce back with wine.

Looks like our 18th century duchess is trying to force the whole thread onto the trolley headed for the Land of Make Believe.

In that case:

Henceforth, when an aspirational anachronistic noblewoman offers “analysis” of others’ personalities, psychology, or motives, I will interpret that poster as salivating over the guacamole and other food items mentioned by others.

Henceforth, when the same uses hyperbolic language to condemn others, I will interpret it to mean, “I am testy because my disdain for beverages not sealed with a plug of oak bark has brought me into contact with cork taint”.

[Wilbury_Pie]

Just for the record, guard dogs are generally well bred and trained.

Junk yard dogs on the other hand are of unknown lineage, are unsocialized, and often unpredictable.

On the topic of recipes, what are your favourite canine breeds, mixes, and/or rescues ?

[YankeeDuchess]

@x-halt-salute

Looks like our 18th century duchess is trying to force the whole thread onto the trolley headed for the Land of Make Believe.

In that case:

Henceforth, when an aspirational anachronistic noblewoman offers “analysis” of others’ personalities, psychology, or motives, I will interpret that poster as salivating over the guacamole and other food items mentioned by others.

Henceforth, when the same uses hyperbolic language to condemn others, I will interpret it to mean, “I am testy because my disdain for beverages not sealed with a plug of oak bark has brought me into contact with cork taint”.

 I wish to note that it is you lot who have expended trillions of electrons offering “analysis of [one] other[‘s] personality, psychology, or motives”, but then seem offended when you are the recipient. Save it. 

 Did you miss my post having to do with the purported topic of the thread?

[YankeeDuchess]

@Graymaresrule

Of course they could simply delete the offending post and unless someone has quoted it the post is then gone. That is the reason some people will quote a post with a comment like “QFP”

I understand that. I think they want to let the offensive post stand (deleting it would be admitting it was a regrettable post, and they’re not willing to admit it). They want to sort of balance out the nastiness with a veneer of “Oh, this is all in good fun. Let’s swap recipes and pretend we’re charming and clever.”

[x-halt-salute]

@YankeeDuchess

I wish to note that it is you lot who have expended trillions of electrons offering “analysis of [one] other[‘s] personality, psychology, or motives”, but then seem offended when you are the recipient. Save it.

And henceforth, when pots call kettles black or would-be nobility engage in tit-for-tat, I shall interpret it as curiosity, tinged with a bit of jealousy, about the instant pot recipes discussed upthread.

[GreenWithEnvy]

@YankeeDuchess

Something no one has remarked on is the purpose of MBs 911 calls. While he does refer to LK and RG in one as “squatters” in one, the reference to squatters was sort of offhand, and not the reason for the 911 call.

At the beginning of the call, MB says something about having clients who refuse to sign documents.

Who, aside from MB, calls 911 to deal with clients, or anyone, who refuses to sign documents?

LK has said that MB was trying to raise all sorts of fees. It does not surprise me at all that a BNT would attempt to further exploit a big bucks amateur client - I’ve been exploited or attempted exploited by several trainers, albeit at a much lower level.

If you as a BNT want to up the level of exploitation (financial, of course), it is not OK to put a gun to their head to force them to sign. And he didn’t.

But calling 911 because LK or LK and RG would not sign agreeing to higher fees? That is totally out of line. Sounds like heavy duty harassment to pressure them to sign. Sounds like bullying.

Doesn’t look to me that the dispute was about tenancy of the house, given that the flood damage had been repaired. Looks like the dispute was financial exploitation and possibly financial fraud.

There is a lot of financial exploitation of amateur clients of various degrees. That part is ultra plausible.

Put calling 911 because your well funded client won’t sign a piece of paper? Sounds nuts to me.

And however much you lot want/need to hate on LK, the exploited amateur rider in me has to give credit to an amateur client who, well, refused to be intimidated by a BNT who resorted to 911 to pressure her to pay EVEN MORE.

So why not leave? We always come back to that one important question, don’t we? If the relationship had soured to the point of involving the police, what could be salvaged? Why stay? Did anyone think this would turn positive somehow? Honestly, I can’t imagine the circumstances I would have stayed in this situation if it was as bad as has been portrayed.

I actually use my mom’s Lismore Waterford crystal as well as my Gorham Buttercup sterling silver. Why not enjoy it like it was meant to be enjoyed.

I’m prepping black-eyed peas, collards, carrots, pork tenderloin, and a brown sugar pie for the big day Wednesday.

[Dee-Vee]

@YankeeDuchess Howabout you join the party and ante up with your very own Potatoes Anna recipe?? I will interpret any snarky remark in respect of this gesture of hospitality as meaning that you have no real idea as to what Potatoes Anna is outside of an Internet search. No other reason is plausible.

[YankeeDuchess]

@x-halt-salute

And henceforth, when pots call kettles black or would-be nobility engage in tit-for-tat, I shall interpret it as curiosity, tinged with a bit of jealousy, about the instant pot recipes discussed upthread.

 Don’t you mean to accuse me of envy rather than jealousy?

  It’s not that I’m curious. I have a sick fascination with you cowardly anonymous mean girls taunting and insulting and cyber bullying the victim of a shooting that nearly killed her. 

  Yes, it’s a sick fascination. Yes, I probably need professional help (preempting that particular insult),

   Aside from the nastiness, your posts are not even original, or clever or cute.

[BigMama1]

@YankeeDuchess

Something no one has remarked on is the purpose of MBs 911 calls. While he does refer to LK and RG in one as “squatters” in one, the reference to squatters was sort of offhand, and not the reason for the 911 call.

At the beginning of the call, MB says something about having clients who refuse to sign documents.

Who, aside from MB, calls 911 to deal with clients, or anyone, who refuses to sign documents?

LK has said that MB was trying to raise all sorts of fees. It does not surprise me at all that a BNT would attempt to further exploit a big bucks amateur client - I’ve been exploited or attempted exploited by several trainers, albeit at a much lower level.

If you as a BNT want to up the level of exploitation (financial, of course), it is not OK to put a gun to their head to force them to sign. And he didn’t.

But calling 911 because LK or LK and RG would not sign agreeing to higher fees? That is totally out of line. Sounds like heavy duty harassment to pressure them to sign. Sounds like bullying.

Doesn’t look to me that the dispute was about tenancy of the house, given that the flood damage had been repaired. Looks like the dispute was financial exploitation and possibly financial fraud.

There is a lot of financial exploitation of amateur clients of various degrees. That part is ultra plausible.

Put calling 911 because your well funded client won’t sign a piece of paper? Sounds nuts to me.

And however much you lot want/need to hate on LK, the exploited amateur rider in me has to give credit to an amateur client who, well, refused to be intimidated by a BNT who resorted to 911 to pressure her to pay EVEN MORE.

Who calls 911 for anything except for urgent situations requiring immediate assistance from fire, EMA or police? Yes, I know a lot of idiots actually waste 911 resources with frivolous, non emergency calls. Sounds like both parties here are guilty of this. Whether to create a legal trail or to intimidate the other side, who knows.

Some poster who claimed to have inside knowledge had stories of LK and her boyfriend tormenting MB and staff by screaming under their windows, coming into the barn late at night and not letting that sleep.

LaLa can you tell us if those stories are all fabricated?