That's a twist

[Graymaresrule]

@YankeeDuchess

I understand that. I think they want to let the offensive post stand (deleting it would be admitting it was a regrettable post, and they’re not willing to admit it). They want to sort of balance out the nastiness with a veneer of “Oh, this is all in good fun. Let’s swap recipes and pretend we’re charming and clever.”

I think you are reading to much into the recipe and menu posts. However I will post the simple recipe that was a hit with my very picky and vegiphobic grandchildren a few days ago
https://recipes.anovaculinary.com/recipe/sous-vide-butter-poached-potatoes

Now, I did not get the desired air fryer for Christmas so I ordered one. Does anyone have a recipe for chicken wings?

[YankeeDuchess]

@Dee-Vee

@YankeeDuchess Howabout you join the party and ante up with your very own Potatoes Anna recipe?? I will interpret any snarky remark in respect of this gesture of hospitality as meaning that you have no real idea as to what Potatoes Anna is outside of an Internet search. No other reason is plausible.

Actually, the reason I have accused others of retreating to recipe land is that I realized at the time that I was resorting to giving my Christmas menu and reference to potatoes Anna exactly because I feared I had gone to far and wanted to humanize my persona a bit. Having seen it in myself, I then attributed it to others. But I acknowledge it!

 Potatoes Anna is a classic French dish. If you were interested in a recipe, you would have googled it. 

  I admit it:  I resorted to wine and dine land in order to soften my persona without explicitly retracting anything. That is my basis for thinking the motivation is the same on your part. Denials will be interpreted as evidence of the truth of the interpretation. Strong denials as strong evidence.

[CanteringCarrot]

Oh, air fryers. I don’t eat anything fried so I am assuming (lol look at me assuming) that I don’t need one, but I am also intrigued by them. What does one cook in their air fryer?

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@YankeeDuchess

Don’t you mean to accuse me of envy rather than jealousy?

Don’t you think a blackened pot feels a bit jealous when it sees all sorts of delicious meals being whipped up in a shiny new instant pot?

@YankeeDuchess

Aside from the nastiness, your posts are not even original, or clever or cute.

Henceforth, whenever an imaginary member of the peerage declares discussion of food to be “nastiness” or offers an uninvited estimation of the cuteness of my comments, I will interpret it as a cowardly anonymous mean girl taunting and insulting.

[Dee-Vee]

@Graymaresrule

I think you are reading to much into the recipe and menu posts. However I will post the simple recipe that was a hit with my very picky and vegiphobic grandchildren a few days ago
https://recipes.anovaculinary.com/recipe/sous-vide-butter-poached-potatoes

Now, I did not get the desired air fryer for Christmas so I ordered one. Does anyone have a recipe for chicken wings?

OMG!! Love my air fryer.

My fave Air fried chicken wing recipe is to lightly coat them in corn starch. That is all. Makes the skin crispy while sealing in the juices. I then dip in my favourite sauces.

I am not a big fan of breading, nor do I like gooey sauces.

my fave air fryer chef is Meredith Laurence, the Blue Jean Chef. She has a number of cookbooks, as well as Facebook groups. Recommend.

Enjoy!!

[Graymaresrule]

@CanteringCarrot

Oh, air fryers. I don’t eat anything fried so I am assuming (lol look at me assuming) that I don’t need one, but I am also intrigued by them. What does one cook in their air fryer?

I want it mostly for chicken wings See post 940 below.

Air fried is a whole lot different than fat frying https://www.foodnetwork.com/recipes/food-network-kitchen/air-fryer-chicken-wings-5565422

[Dee-Vee]

@YankeeDuchess

Actually, the reason I have accused others of retreating to recipe land is that I realized at the time that I was resorting to giving my Christmas menu and reference to potatoes Anna exactly because I feared I had gone to far and wanted to humanize my persona a bit. Having seen it in myself, I then attributed it to others. But I acknowledge it!

Potatoes Anna is a classic French dish. If you were interested in a recipe, you would have googled it.

I admit it: I resorted to wine and dine land in order to soften my persona without explicitly retracting anything. That is my basis for thinking the motivation is the same on your part. Denials will be interpreted as evidence of the truth of the interpretation. Strong denials as strong evidence.

I am only interested in YOUR recipe. Whaddaya say?

[YankeeDuchess]

@GreenWithEnvy

So why not leave? We always come back to that one important question, don’t we? If the relationship had soured to the point of involving the police, what could be salvaged? Why stay? Did anyone think this would turn positive somehow? Honestly, I can’t imagine the circumstances I would have stayed in this situation if it was as bad as has been portrayed.

I actually use my mom’s Lismore Waterford crystal as well as my Gorham Buttercup sterling silver. Why not enjoy it like it was meant to be enjoyed.

I’m prepping black-eyed peas, collards, carrots, pork tenderloin, and a brown sugar pie for the big day Wednesday.

At some level I respect her for standing her ground against intimidation by a 6’3” male BNT who called 911 to try to intimidate her into paying even more. 

You have not addressed the basic question posed, which is, don’t you find it way, way out of line for MB to call EMERGENCY police services because his clients would not sign a document?  Presumably there was already an agreement in place, written or oral and he wanted them to agree in writing to a different set of terms.

[Dee-Vee]

@CanteringCarrot

Oh, air fryers. I don’t eat anything fried so I am assuming (lol look at me assuming) that I don’t need one, but I am also intrigued by them. What does one cook in their air fryer?

it is cooking by using hot forced air and a small amount of oil if necessary. I cook more than just traditional fried food. I am not a fan of fried food. Fish, steak, roasts. Most recently I did a small rib roast, done perfectly to medium rare, which is my preference (you can do well done). Baked potatoes are amazing as the come out crispy skinned and fluffy.

Do some googling.

[YankeeDuchess]

@x-halt-salute

Don’t you think a blackened pot feels a bit jealous when it sees all sorts of delicious meals being whipped up in a shiny new instant pot?

Henceforth, whenever an imaginary member of the peerage declares discussion of food to be “nastiness” or offers an uninvited estimation of the cuteness of my comments, I will interpret it as a cowardly anonymous mean girl taunting and insulting.

I did not say discussion of food is nastiness. I said that some people, Joanne comes to mind, is plenty nasty and I suspect she dramatically whips out the crystal stemware when she doesn’t want to take responsibility for her most recent allegation-posed-as-a-question.

I do not object to the posting of recipes. I object to the nastiness, that leads some people to veneer over their most recent nastiness by distracting with recipes. Once a recipe or menu has been posted, I stipulate there are a lot of decent posters who post recipes with no manipulative intent.

[YankeeDuchess]

@Dee-Vee

I am only interested in YOUR recipe. Whaddaya say?

Go back to Dec 24. I posted it.

[YankeeDuchess]

@YankeeDuchess

Something no one has remarked on is the purpose of MBs 911 calls. While he does refer to LK and RG in one as “squatters” in one, the reference to squatters was sort of offhand, and not the reason for the 911 call.

At the beginning of the call, MB says something about having clients who refuse to sign documents.

Who, aside from MB, calls 911 to deal with clients, or anyone, who refuses to sign documents?

LK has said that MB was trying to raise all sorts of fees. It does not surprise me at all that a BNT would attempt to further exploit a big bucks amateur client - I’ve been exploited or attempted exploited by several trainers, albeit at a much lower level.

If you as a BNT want to up the level of exploitation (financial, of course), it is not OK to put a gun to their head to force them to sign. And he didn’t.

But calling 911 because LK or LK and RG would not sign agreeing to higher fees? That is totally out of line. Sounds like heavy duty harassment to pressure them to sign. Sounds like bullying.

Doesn’t look to me that the dispute was about tenancy of the house, given that the flood damage had been repaired. Looks like the dispute was financial exploitation and possibly financial fraud.

There is a lot of financial exploitation of amateur clients of various degrees. That part is ultra plausible.

Put calling 911 because your well funded client won’t sign a piece of paper? Sounds nuts to me.

And however much you lot want/need to hate on LK, the exploited amateur rider in me has to give credit to an amateur client who, well, refused to be intimidated by a BNT who resorted to 911 to pressure her to pay EVEN MORE.

[GreenWithEnvy]

@YankeeDuchess

At some level I respect her for standing her ground against intimidation by a 6’3” male BNT who called 911 to try to intimidate her into paying even more.

You have not addressed the basic question posed, which is, don’t you find it way, way out of line for MB to call EMERGENCY police services because his clients would not sign a document? Presumably there was already an agreement in place, written or oral and he wanted them to agree in writing to a different set of terms.

I think the reason for his calling 911 is evident in the phone call. He clearly states RG was “menacing” (I believe that was the word). I have no idea if any agreement was in place. As long as we’re wondering about the reason for calling 911, why wait many hours to call the police about a suspicious black SUV with a dude smoking a cigarette slowing driving around? We can all play this game all day long. We weren’t there. Either of them could have called any number of people complaining, warning, pleading for help, whatever. Maybe there will be some evidence on the mystery recordings?

And, @YankeeDuchess where has anyone said the documents MB mumbled about were about raising rates? I must have missed that tidbit of information. The “documents” could be absolutely anything at this point.

As far as the report of LK coming around during the night, wasn’t that also addressed in one of the 911 calls or the initial hearing? IDK.

[cutter99]

Has anyone considered if MB actually did drastically raised pricing it was an effort to get rid of a client who didn’t want to go?

[Graymaresrule]

@YankeeDuchess

At some level I respect her for standing her ground against intimidation by a 6’3” male BNT who called 911 to try to intimidate her into paying even more.

You have not addressed the basic question posed, which is, don’t you find it way, way out of line for MB to call EMERGENCY police services because his clients would not sign a document? Presumably there was already an agreement in place, written or oral and he wanted them to agree in writing to a different set of terms.

OTOH, what is the old saying “The horse that kills you has first warned you” or words to that effect?

[TMares]

@x-halt-salute

Looks like our 18th century duchess is trying to force the whole thread onto the trolley headed for the Land of Make Believe.

In that case:

Henceforth, when an aspirational anachronistic noblewoman offers “analysis” of others’ personalities, psychology, or motives, I will interpret that poster as salivating over the guacamole and other food items mentioned by others.

Henceforth, when the same uses hyperbolic language to condemn others, I will interpret it to mean, “I am testy because my disdain for beverages not sealed with a plug of oak bark has brought me into contact with cork taint”.

Somehow, I was unprepared for cork taint.

I snorted. Maybe i should flounce more, though? Might help my sticky shoulder.

[CanteringCarrot]

@TMares

Somehow, I was unprepared for cork taint.

I snorted. Maybe i should flounce more, though? Might help my sticky shoulder.

I was also unprepared for cork taint :lol:

[GreenWithEnvy]

@YankeeDuchess has been posting every few minutes and actually bumping her dire question post, yet she is eerily quiet since I responded to her question. Is she digging for recipes perchance?

[GreenWithEnvy]

@CanteringCarrot

I was also unprepared for cork taint :lol:

Speaking of corks…how many have saved their corks from forever?? Why do we do that I wonder? The top of my fridge might collapse from the basket of corks resting there!!

[YankeeDuchess]

@GreenWithEnvy

I think the reason for his calling 911 is evident in the phone call. He clearly states RG was “menacing” (I believe that was the word). I have no idea if any agreement was in place. As long as we’re wondering about the reason for calling 911, why wait many hours to call the police about a suspicious black SUV with a dude smoking a cigarette slowing driving around? We can all play this game all day long. We weren’t there. Either of them could have called any number of people complaining, warning, pleading for help, whatever. Maybe there will be some evidence on the mystery recordings?

And, @YankeeDuchess where has anyone said the documents MB mumbled about were about raising rates? I must have missed that tidbit of information. The “documents” could be absolutely anything at this point.

As far as the report of LK coming around during the night, wasn’t that also addressed in one of the 911 calls or the initial hearing? IDK.

Thank you for returning to the purported topic of the thread.

If you have 4 of 5 horses in training and boarded there, there is obviously some agreement. Probably written, but at least oral, and a de facto arrangement that you’ve been operating on.

In one of the 911 calls (he made three) it starts not with “some guy is menacing”, but something about clients who refuse to sign documents. LK said that MB was trying to change the financial deal and get more money.

I think you’ve second guessed her enough on waiting 12 hours on the SUV. Did you miss the post by
@ladyj79
saying she was in a situation in which a shot had been fired in her home, and she literally though the barn manager was going to kill her, but she did not call 911?